He’s been supoened to trestify before a criminal grand jury on what his boss, the ex-President said (State of mind/intent) in connection with Trump’s efforts to not certify the 2020 election….
Folks?
We KNOW what Trump said to Pence, then the Vice President…
The conversation has been in the media and in Trump’s own accounts in a book and on TV….
Anyone surprised with this?
I’m NOT….
Justice Dept. Specail Counsel Jack Smith is simply trying to ‘flip’ Pence against Trump, who has been shiting on Pence ever since he didn’t help him overturn an election…
Pence is well aware that his testimony would seriously hurt Trump’s case if indicted and cancel any chance Pence would have to obtain the Republican nomination for President….
Pence and his lawyers are going out on a limb to try avoid him appearing before the grand jury….
Again?
‘Just about Everything Donald Trump touches turns to shit’
Mike Pence is preparing to resist a grand jury subpoena for testimony about former President Donald Trump’s push to overturn the 2020 election, according to two people familiar with the former vice president’s thinking.
Pence’s decision to challenge Special Counsel Jack Smith’s request has little to do with executive privilege, the people said. Rather, Pence is set to argue that his former role as president of the Senate — therefore a member of the legislative branch — shields him from certain Justice Department demands.
Pence allies say he is covered by the constitutional provision that protects congressional officials from legal proceedings related to their work — language known as the “speech or debate” clause. The clause, Pence allies say, legally binds federal prosecutors from compelling Pence to testify about the central components of Smith’s investigation. If Pence testifies, they say, it could jeopardize the separation of powers that the Constitution seeks to safeguard.
“He thinks that the ‘speech or debate’ clause is a core protection for Article I, for the legislature,” said one of the two people familiar with Pence’s thinking, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss his legal strategy. “He feels it really goes to the heart of some separation of powers issues. He feels duty-bound to maintain that protection, even if it means litigating it.”….
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Not all legal scholars agree that vice presidents enjoy congressional privileges, however. Former White House counsel Neil Eggleston said the text of the “speech or debate” clause doesn’t apply to anyone but lawmakers.
“The literal language is that this applies to ‘senators and representatives,’” said Eggleston, who advised former President Barack Obama from 2014 to 2017. “I think, by the language, this does not apply and the argument is completely frivolous.”
Still, predicting exactly how courts would handle the argument is difficult. The Supreme Court has repeatedly upheld the executive privilege wielded by presidents, despite the Constitution making no reference to the concept….
Note…
If you look thru the legal bull shit?
Congressional Lawmakers seem to trying to take themsleves out of being held accountable for criminal actions by the US Justice Dept…..
Sorta a ‘get outta jail free’ thing?