Could Trump Put Stephen Miller ON Ice?…..

From the Bulwark…..

What Trump REALLY Thinks About Stephen Miller

A secret transcript exclusive to The Bulwark reveals more than Trump ever would….

An Early-Morning Phone Call

Cracks have appeared even in the Oval Office. The president, aware of polls showing that much of his immigration agenda isn’t popular, has told advisers he wasn’t comfortable with how far [Stephen] Miller has gone on some fronts, according to people who have spoken with Trump. The president has said that business officials are calling and complaining to him about longtime workers being thrown out of the country. . . . Even after Trump signaled his displeasure, Miller continued to argue for large raids . . . In another TV appearance, Miller talked about Venezuela, prompting Trump to ask aides why Miller was speaking. ‘He doesn’t do foreign policy,’ Trump said, according to a senior administration official.

—Wall Street Journal, February 4, 2026. “The Aide Stoking Trump’s Impulses”

CLASSIFICATION: SUPER-DUPER DOUBLE SECRET.

TRANSCRIPT OF PHONE CONVERSATION BETWEEN PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP AND WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF SUSIE L. WILES.

CALL INITIATED BY PRESIDENT TRUMP AT 4:17 A.M., THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 2026.

Wiles: Uh, uh . . . hello?

POTUS: Susie. We got a problem. Bigly.

Wiles: Mr. President, always good to hear from you. Even at . . . four o’clock in the morning.

POTUS: Did you see the news last night?

Wiles: Uh . . .

POTUS: They chanted “Fuck ICE!” last night at a wrestling match! In Vegas! Can you believe it? ICE has gone too far even for idiot pro wrestling fans! Those are my people! Even they think ICE is out of control.

Wiles: Sir, I hadn’t heard that. That is concerning . . .

POTUS: And I’m not going to the Super Bowl because they told me the crowd will boo me. At the Super Bowl! God, Susie, I love football. As a kid I remember watching your dad kick that 49-yard field goal in the snow with two minutes left to win the final regular-season game in 1958 for the Giants and send them to the playoffs.

Wiles: Yes, sir. I was only one year old then, but we used to watch video of that kick growing up.

POTUS: Yeah, that’s when football was great. The Giants. The Colts. The Packers. Twelve teams. None of that expansion bullshit. No black quarterbacks.

Wiles: Um . . . yes. Sir, it’s four o’clock in the morning.

POTUS: My fucking point is that no one likes me any more. Did you see that new poll from that college with a ridiculous Indian name?

Wiles: Quinnipiac, sir?

POTUS: Yeah. Colleges used to have American names. Now they’ve all gone woke. But I guess Quinnieyack or whatever it is has pretty good pollsters. They had me ahead at the end in 2024. And now they have me at fucking 37 percent approval. I’m at 38 percent on immigration—38 percent! On immigration, my issue! ICE’s approval is at 34 percent! ICE is killing me.

Wiles: [sotto voce] You’re not the only one they’re killing.

POTUS: What was that?

Wiles: Nothing, sir. Just clearing my throat. Anyway, that’s why we got rid of Bovino and moved Homan into the spotlight. That’s why he announced the token withdrawal of some guys from Minneapolis. And you did a good job yesterday telling NBC we’re going to have a “softer touch.”

POTUS: Yeah, yeah. That’s all okay. And if we need to make some fake concessions on the funding bill, that’s okay, too. But we gotta make sure the funding for DHS isn’t touched, and that ICE and those great Border Patrol guys can be deployed this fall to the Democrat cities. But the Dems aren’t even asking for funding cuts. Let’s hope they stay clueless. Anyway, the elections are key. Getting rid of the illegals is good. But the important thing is staying in power. And if my numbers keep going down, I’m not sure even we can rig the elections that much.

Wiles: Yes, sir.

POTUS: So we gotta calm things down on the immigration front. And I’ve decided that can’t happen until Stephen goes. So I’m making the move. It’s Miller Time, Susie.

Wiles: That is good news, sir! The staff will be thrilled. That guy creeps out all of us—even Steven Cheung! But what do you want me to do?

POTUS: You did a good job with the leaks to the Journal yesterday. But we need more stuff out there on how he’s screwed up. On how he’s hurting the cause. We need to get people ready for him to leave. Get some of the Fox clowns to start saying maybe he should go.

Wiles: Will do, sir.

POTUS: And explain to Bannon that he shouldn’t complain too much when it happens, that this is for the sake of the big enchilada. For the elections. The elections are what matters. A few more or less illegals—who really gives a shit?

Wiles: Yes, sir.

POTUS: Anyway, as Roy Cohn—God, I wish he were still around!—as he used to say, “Two steps forward, one step back.” Roy was amazing. He came up with all these great expressions.

Wiles: Yes, sir.

POTUS: Roy also had this thing about “If you’re going to do something, do it fast.” But he said it better. Anyway, let’s have Miller “resign” soon, to spend more time with his family.

Wiles: [murmuring] Poor Katie.

POTUS: Tough. Anyway, we need Stephen out before the State of the Union. We’ll get good press from Ross and Bari. The Wall Street Journal will decide we’re being reasonable again. The business guys will get back to making money and stop bothering me.

Wiles: Yes, sir.

POTUS: And of course you need to tell Stephen privately that we’ll bring him back a year from now. We do need him inside to work on 2028. For now, make sure he can keep some kind of special government status so he can stay in the big house on the military base that he likes so much. And we’ll get him something with Witkoff or Don Jr. or Thiel, have them cut him on some of the big crypto deals, let him make some money, keep him happy. But tell him no press for the rest of the year. If he stays out of the news, he’ll be rich and he’ll be back in the White House in 2027.

Wiles: Yes, sir.

POTUS: Meanwhile, as Roy used to say—he was kind of a poet, really—you can tell Steve, “Parting is sweet but also sad.”

Wiles: Got it, sir. Sir, it’s awfully early in the morning, but I want to say you’ve made my day . . .

POTUS: Don’t I always?

[POTUS HANGS UP. CALL TERMINATED AT 4:27 A.M.]