First of all?
The ENTIRE Government WILL NOT shutdown….
That’s just a media headline….
Basic services WILL continue….
Trump & Co. are NOT gonna fire 100,000 workers….
But Yes…Federal Workers and OTHERS ARE gonna be out of work for a period of time….
The President of the United States is NOT gonna come out of this unharmed politically….
Neither will Democrats…
But?
Democrats actually have little choice but to vote aginst the Spending Bill….
Sometime in the future there WILL be a vote and passage….
How long this lasts and the fall out ?
The two parties remain far apart from a potential deal to fund the government, and it is unclear how long the shutdown may last.
Democrats say they cannot support the GOP funding extension until Republicans agree to concessions on health care policy. Republicans have said they are willing to negotiate on Democrats’ chief demand — an extension of Affordable Care Act subsidies put in place during the coronavirus pandemic that will otherwise expire at the end of the year — but not until the government is open again.
About 750,000 federal employees would be furloughed each day under a shutdown, according to an estimate released Tuesday by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, putting on hold about $400 million worth of compensation daily. Others would have to work without pay.
President Donald Trump told reporters Tuesday morning that the government may fire “a lot” of federal workers if a shutdown goes forward, and later said the shutdown empowered the administration to cut social benefit programs. He blamed Democrats for the possible disruption…..
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The president added, falsely, that Democratic lawmakers are trying to force the government to take care of undocumented immigrants in part by offering them full health-care benefits. (Undocumented immigrants are legally ineligible for federal health benefits.) He also said the Democrats are still bitter about losing to him in the 2024 presidential election….
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A negotiated solution didn’t seem likely at any point Tuesday. Adding to rising tension on both sides, Trump had posted a fake video with racist tropes Monday evening of Schumer and Jeffries at a news conference outside the White House to his Truth Social account, with Schumer saying things about benefits for immigrants that he hadn’t actually said and Jeffries wearing a sombrero he hadn’t been wearing as a Mexican folk song played in the background….
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Democrats are relying on pressure from voters to convince Republicans to change their minds, Schumer said after the vote.
“The American people are demanding it, and are going to demand it more and more on October 1st, October 2nd,” he told reporters.
Republicans have said they are willing to negotiate on extending the ACA subsidies but not as part of a funding extension. Republicans are divided over the policy, with some moderate members pushing for the change and conservatives insisting they would block any extension….
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Trump’s mention of possible layoffs conflicted with guidance slowly emerging from some federal agencies in recent days, in which officials promised there would not be such cuts. That guidance has begun going out within the State Department, according to two employees familiar with the matter and recordings of meetings obtained by The Washington Post.
Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Marty Makary told staff in a Sunday video that the agency would be spared from permanent firings during a shutdown.
“I was able to ensure an exemption because we are in the business of public safety,” Makary said in the video, which was seen by The Post, with its contents confirmed by a federal health official….
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Labor unions sue OMB, OPM for ‘unlawful’ threats of mass layoffs ahead of shutdown
The lawsuit also names the Office of Personnel Management, along with its director, Scott Kupor, for issuing instructions that federal employees may work during the shutdown in order to carry out the mass layoffs.
The lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California by the American Federation of Government Employees and the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. The unions are asking a judge to declare the layoff threats illegal and to invalidate any actions the administration takes to conduct layoffs during the shutdown.
“These actions are contrary to law and arbitrary and capricious, and the cynical use of federal employees as a pawn in Congressional deliberations should be declared unlawful and enjoined by this Court,” the lawsuit reads.
The lawsuit argues the administration violated the Antideficiency Act — which prohibits the government from spending federal funds exceeding the amount available in an appropriation — in its instructions for employees to carry out the firings. That law also requires most federal employees to stop working during the appropriation lapse….
National Parks Will Remain Open
“The Trump administration will keep most national parks open to the public if the government shuts down Wednesday,“ Politico reports.
“With congressional leaders still gridlocked on a deal to fund the government ahead of a midnight deadline, most of the National Park Service’s roughly 16,000 full-time employees are expected to be placed on furlough starting Wednesday. But the Trump administration would tap recreation fees to pay for skeleton crews of staff at many sites, said the two people who were granted anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the plan.”
Senators hunt for possible path out of shutdown
A nascent bipartisan gang is exploring escape routes as GOP leaders insist on House bill.
A bipartisan group of senators is already looking for a way out of the government shutdown.
The talks, which played out on the Senate floor Wednesday as lawmakers again voted down dueling partisan funding bills, are still in their early stages. Multiple lawmakers involved said they aren’t close to finalizing a proposal….
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Democratic leaders immediately touted the bipartisan talks. “We’ve always believed that Democrats and Republicans should sit down to negotiate,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer told reporters. “It’s a good thing.”
While Republicans insist they will not negotiate on extending the insurance subsidies while the government is shut down, some GOP senators have suggested they could work out a framework for how the “mechanics” of the talks would go once the government is reopened to try to offer more reassurances to Democrats.
Some Republicans are also discussing dealing with the subsidies — enhanced tax credits under the Affordable Care Act that are set to expire Dec. 31 — as part of the larger appropriations process. Some senators want a deal on the issue by Nov. 1, when open enrollment for ACA plans begins, according to Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.), who participated in the floor discussion….
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Added to my last comment is this….
The Obamacare healthcare subsidies WILL BE contiuned one way or another….
Slow walking the threats?
I don’t have the expertise or knowledge (we used to have a contributor who did know), but I wonder how much the groups most affected by changes in ACA reimbursement overlap the middle-middle voters that are a major blue-red battleground?
Mmmmmm?
I still believe they will keep the subsidies one way or another..,,
They affect Ted States just as much or more than Blue states I’d guess just thinking about cost of living
Office of Management and Budget (OMB) Director Russell Vought told House Republicans in a Wednesday call that layoffs of federal workers will be coming in a day or two, according to sources on the call.
The call came on day one of a government shutdown as Democrats in Congress have rejected a short-term Republican funding plan and are making demands like extending enhanced ObamaCare tax credits. Democrats had forced Vought’s hand, one source said.,,,,
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