The US Supreme Court seems to NOT have had the last word….
And?
This effort fits right in with President Biden’s efforts to keep the swing states he got four years ago….
“Dobbs was a really devastating outcome, but we’re going to win back our rights much faster than they think,” Mini Timmaraju, the president and CEO of Reproductive Freedom for All, said in an interview. “We’re not going to let the anti-abortion extremists define this moment. We’re coming for them and we’re going to make sure that they become increasingly irrelevant.
”The coalition, which also includes the Center for Reproductive Rights, In Our Own Voice, the National Latina Institute for Reproductive Justice, National Asian Pacific American Women’s Forum and the National Women’s Law Center, plans to push for the most sweeping federal protections possible — laws that make abortion not just legal but easily accessible and affordable. But its effort to project a unified battle plan comes amid deep divisions within the left about the best way to restore abortion access. Some abortion rights supporters, including President Joe Biden, are calling for a revival of Roe, which protected abortion only up to the point of fetal viability. Others argue that Roe failed to ensure meaningful abortion access for many people during the roughly 50 years it was the law of the land, and are calling for national protections that go further.
The $100-million investment also comes as abortion rights groups have already outspent their anti-abortion counterparts in virtually every ballot initiative fight since the fall of Roe. And while some deep-pocketed groups on the right, including Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America, are pouring tens of millions into electing anti-abortion candidates and defeating proposed state constitutional amendments, the Abortion Access Now campaign is likely to fuel the perception among conservatives that they are the underdog in the fight…..
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As Democrats from Biden down the ticket center abortion in their 2024 campaigns, and as many as a dozen states prepare to vote on access to the procedure in November, Abortion Access Now is not yet endorsing any particular bill or policy, and its members stress the need to adapt to whatever court rulings or election results come their way. Still, the nine core organizations and dozen supporting groups in the alliance have an initial game plan as they start lobbying elected officials, organizing volunteers and holding events in Arizona, Delaware, Georgia, Michigan, Maine, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin…..
In Texas infant deaths have surged since abortion became illegal.
But hey “pro Life” amirite?
Pro-Life hardliners do NO CARE……
They are absolutes…..
They are gonna cost Trump, who isn’t REALLY pro-life , but using them votes….
Leaving it to the states is approving thosr states that ok abortion…..
Trump is NOT for a national ban
On this Texas thing, isn’t the claim that babies who would have been otherwise aborted because they had medical conditions that would have made it unlikely to live, are being born and dying.
I am sure there is a moral debate there as to what is less painful for a parent to endure, and I definitely support an exception for any situation that might kill the mother, but I do not see the statistical distinction in this claim. The baby will be dead if it is aborted and sadly dead after being born. It is the same result. It is not like healthy babies are suddenly dying because a state changed its abortion law.
The issue goes back what WAS settled law before the Alito 5 showed up……
The ‘Right’ of the Woman to decide……
The Pro-Lifer’s have be successful in limiting that right in some states….
The issue of the abortion debate, be it is of the Constitutional, political, or moral variety (and all of those are very different) is irrelevant to this statistical claim because it is not taking into account the previous abortion rate. I just want people to be honest about the nature of these debates.
This debate would seem to be about a moral divide. In this case, the honest answer for pro-choice people would be “if a child is believed to have a medical condition that will make it unlikely to live a long life, it is better to not have it be born at all.”
Pro-Lifers disagree because sometimes children beat the odds or they have a general belief that all lives matter, even for those who are unhealthy. After all, some children will became terminally ill only after being born, and we as a society definitely provide legal protection to them.
You always say “Alito 5” and that is a misnomer, because it was a 6-3 decision on the fundamental core of the case.
Alito PLUS his crew = 6
So you think it’s the “same result”!when women ate forced to give birth to babies that die in the first year?
Yeah who cares about the suffering of the woman forced to go through the charade of bearing the child huh?
It’s SUPPOSED to be about a Woman’s OWN DECISION……
Somebody has every right to believe and advocate that a “Pro-Lifer” is wrong, but in this case, you cannot say that a person who supported a change in the Texas law is not genuinely “pro-life” in their belief.
First, we need to establish that this particular issue has nothing to do with the life of the mother,. If a person believes that there should never be an acceptable reason for an abortion, even if the mother will die as a result, then yes, then you can say they are not being pro-life.
But this is entirely different though. Whether the child is aborted or dies of natural causes, the end result if the same. Those who would have supported changing the law in Texas would believe it was better to have the child live as long as possible, and of course the statistic is not taking into account the children who are not aborted and who are born healthy and will live long lives.
So, one can be opposed to someone being Pro-Life on the issue of abortion on moral grounds, but it is dishonest to say they are not in this circumstance.
Again?
My argument would be for decades the LAW was based on the decision of Mother……
PERIOD……
All the hocus pocus by others, including men, who don’t carry babies and others who don’t have the responsibility is people standing on the sidelines…..
Abortion‘RIGHTS’
Voting ‘RIGHTS’
Next will it be ?
An America going BACKWARDS…..
irrelevant mumbo-jumo. That has nothing to do with any story about infant mortality rates in Texas.
Texas like Florida has fucked up Politics….
The guys running those places are in a alternate universe
and most people in those states will probably say the same about your state and mine.
On some matters, I will say the same about all four states.
Agreed…….
So, at least you are now admitting that your argument is about the woman and what is best for her and not the child.
All I would ask from all the tribalists on any side of a contentious issue is to be intellectually honest.
Legalized abortion might have benefits from your perspective (i.e. the woman), but an argument cannot logically be made that abortions should be legal so more children can live.
Waiting for a new Open Thread or a Primary Night thread…
Hundreds and hundreds of people are waiting ..on here and on Twitter…
New Thread coming tomorrow on the debate basis…..