I don’t think it will cancel Trump from voting ballots….
BUT?
SOMEBODY IS gonna want get serious with this and kick it up to the Supreme’s who I think do NOT want be the ones by themselves to cancel the ex-President’s second term chances before the other courts come back with their verdicts….
The idea of barring former President Donald Trump from seeking the presidency on grounds that it would violate the 14th Amendment may be an increasingly catchy constitutional argument pushed by a segment of legal scholars and activists.
But it turns out election officials have been discussing how to handle it for months….
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The legal theory argues Trump is constitutionally disqualified from running for president under the 14th Amendment’s “insurrection clause,” which states that anyone who “engaged in insurrection or rebellion” after taking an oath of office to defend the Constitution is forbidden from holding public office.
The theory has rarely been tested in modern times, creating a significant degree of uncertainty around who even has the ability to make the determination on whether Trump should be kept off the ballot — let alone what legally is considered “an insurrection or rebellion.”
And some election officials — including Georgia’s Brad Raffensperger, a Republican who resisted Trump’s attempts to overturn the 2020 election — are saying they don’t have the authority to make that determination.
Now the theory is being tested…..
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A handful of other secretaries of state have also publicly discussed the 14th Amendment push.
Adrian Fontes, the Democratic secretary of state of Arizona, recently told MSNBC that his office was still “deciding how to decide,” noting he has only until mid-December to determine who is eligible to be on the primary ballot in the battleground state.
He said that the issue would ultimately make its way to the U.S. Supreme Court — a sentiment other secretaries have echoed….
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A handful of organizations have been calling on secretaries of state to disqualify Trump. A pair of organizations, Free Speech for People and Mi Familia Vota Education Fund, sent letters to top election officials in nine states— including Colorado, Georgia and Michigan — in July urging them to bar the former president from the ballot.
“We’re having both private and public conversations with various secretaries of state, and it could well be yet that one courageous official makes the first move and then a larger number follow,” Ron Fein, Free Speech for People’s legal director, said in an interview earlier this week, declining to share details about conversations his organization has had with election officials….
Ghost of SE says
More serious a consideration than many think, but still not likely to go anywhere. Certainly not as likely as a conviction in most/all of the criminal cases he has against him.
Some establishment Republicans look at this as a silver bullet towards beating Trump. But DeSantis and Ramaswamy have no better odds of winning a General Election than Trump does, perhaps even less. And Trump’s already pretty far from a cinch in the General. Wait until the Biden people get a hold of either of those two freak shows!
jamesb says
I agree that the 14th IS a Wild Card…..
jamesb says
Interesting………
Nikki Haley has moved into THIRD place in several GOP primary polls recently……
Hmmmmm?
My Name Is Jack says
Who cares what “place” she is in?
Still like 35-40 points behind Trump.
Get back to us when she’s only 7-8 points behind.
jamesb says
He, he, he…..
Of course SHE cares……
Even with Vivek taking garbage she’s STILL in it….
They ALL NEED to be available if Trump tanks
My Name Is Jack says
Oh Hell, you’ve been “ predicting “ Trumps tanking for seven damn years now.
I’m sure that we he does finally exit the scene there you’ll be with your well known, “ told ya so” routine.
Clownfoolery,
jamesb says
He, he, he
Damn Real!
U know me well!
Democratic Socialist Dave says
This is like asking whether RFK, Jr, or Marianne Williamson will gain the coveted 2nd place in the Dem sweepstakes.
As the pundits were saying this morning, the threat to Biden is not within his party, but whether a third party running (say) Cornel West, RFK, Jr, or Joe Manchin, will siphon off the critical anti-Trump margin from the Democrats in knife-edge states (Pa, Mich, Wisc, Ariz, Ga, N.H.), as in 2016 (and in Florida in 2000), but not 2020.
However I don’t blame Carter’s loss in 1980 to John Anderson, who won less than 7% when Reagan was beating Carter by nearly 10%.
And in 2000, apart from Florida (and arguably N.H.), the states where neither Gore nor Bush won an absolute majority were carried by Al Gore.
Ghost of SE says
I wish there’d be a spirited Primary from Biden’s left, even as I’d strongly consider voting for him in said Primary. Williamson is too short on cash to mount any more of a challenge than she’s already managed. RFK Jr won’t succeed for obvious, legitimate reasons. As I’d said the other day, Cornel West switching from the Green Party to the Democratic Primary would make it less likely votes will be siphoned off from Biden in a General and would prove to be a stronger candidate than either of the other two currently running against Biden.
jamesb says
Manchin isn’t going to run for anything I feel..,
He’s done….
West isn’t gonna get even Black votes let alone LeftWingNut support..
RFK JR is in the wrong party….
In MY EXPERIENCE?
This is just the media looking for a horse race when there is none
Newsom was the one to be afraid of for Biden