The US Justice Department makes public their charges against the ex-President who went after Hillary Clinton when he ran for President 6 years ago…..
“Lock her Up’ was his rally cry…..
He NOW faces Felony charges for NOT returning classified files demanded by the Government….
Special Councel Jack Smith for the US Justice Dept., indicted Trump and Walt Nauta ….
This isn’t about the Fed’s coming after ‘Him and others”….
It IS about the Government he swore to protect, coming after HIM, for criminal actions he seems to have shrugged off…..
BTW?
Todays Media questions and views have little to do with what a jury will see and deal with….
Federal prosecutors unsealed the indictment laying out the government’s case against former President Donald J. Trump on Friday, detailing their allegations that he mishandled classified documents after leaving office and obstructed the government’s efforts to reclaim them.
Jack Smith, the special counsel who is bringing the case, said in brief remarks on Friday that the rule of law is a bedrock principle of the United States.
“We have one set of laws in this country and they apply to everyone,” he said. The investigation was being conducted with utmost integrity, he said, and promised to seek a speedy trial. He did not take questions.
The indictment gives the clearest picture yet of the files that Mr. Trump took with him when he left the White House. It said he had illegally kept hold of documents concerning “United States nuclear programs; potential vulnerabilities of the United States and its allies to military attack; and plans for possible retaliation in response to a foreign attack.”
The indictment names one of his personal aides, Waltine Nauta, as a co-conspirator who assisted in obstructing the investigation into the former president’s retention of sensitive defense documents at his resident and resort in Florida.
Prosecutors presented evidence that Mr. Trump shared a highly sensitive “plan of attack” against Iran to visitors at his golf club in Bedminster, N.J., in July 2021 — and was recorded on tape describing the material as “highly confidential” and “secret,” while it admitting it had not been declassified.
In another incident in September 2021, he shared a top secret military map with a staffer at his political action committee who did not have a security clearance.
The filing includes many pictures of what appear to be bankers’ boxes, some containing highly sensitive national documents, which were haphazardly moved by Mr. Nauta and other aides at Mr. Trump’s behest. Some of the boxes appear to be sagging — and on Dec. 7, 2021, Mr. Nauta found that one of the boxes had toppled and spilled its contents on the floor.
The files that splayed on the carpet included the designation “SECRET/REL TO USA, FVEY” — which meant that they were meant to be seen by officials from the U.S., U.K. New Zealand and Australia with high-level security clearances.
Mr. Trump is expected to appear in Federal District Court in Miami on Tuesday afternoon. Judge Aileen M. Cannon is scheduled to preside over that initial hearing, according to people familiar with the matter. It was not clear whether Judge Cannon, who was criticized by a higher court for handing Mr. Trump a series of unusually favorable rulings during the early stages of the investigation, would remain assigned for the entirety of the case….
The charges …..
top image….Special counsel Jack Smith makes a statement from the Special Counsel’s Office in Washington on Friday.
bottom image…POLITICO Illustration
Manu Raju
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Speaker McCarthy continues to defend Trump after charges unveiled today, saying to to Fox that the indictment is going “to disrupt this nation because it goes to the core of equal justice for all, which is not being seen today. And we’re not going to stand for it.”
Juliegrace Brufke
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“I’m done defending him. Would he ever defend any of us? Never. The J6 prisoners still rot in jail, why hasn’t he ever paid their legal fees? Many of us just want to be done with the increasingly absurd loyalty tests,” another GOP lawmaker said of the indictment.
Maddow MSNBC from paperwork…..
21 day trial?
When?
Some stuff Supper highly classified….
How does the jury deal with this?
Security Clearances for everybody?
Maybe…
Maybe Not….
Trump’s Trial Is Unlikely Before the 2024 Election
Renato Mariotti: “The details of Donald Trump’s new criminal indictment have just emerged but already people wonder whether a trial on these federal charges could be finished before the November 2024 elections.”
“The answer, for a number of reasons, is almost certainly not.”
For members: The Clock Is Ticking for a Trump Conviction
Stupity…..
McCarthy Says Trump Indictment Will ‘Disrupt the Nation’
Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) told Fox News the federal indictment of Donald Trump will “disrupt the nation,” arguing that it violates the principle of equal justice under the law.
He added: “And we’re not going to stand for it.”
Seeing all the special pleading and whataboutism by Republican leaders today (including folks I admire, like Tim Scott) reminds an old greybeard like me of all the rationalizations that Republicans offered for Richard Nixon fifty years ago in 1973. And the evidence against Trump today is far stronger. There are still Republicans even now who think that Richard Nixon was railroaded.
James,
How about some examples of how Trump has “toned it down?”
Like you claimed (with no evidence of course) he was doing last week.
Don’t ask tough questions of him Jack.
Remember, James is the guy who announced January 6th was in the rear view mirror.
It’s getting closer.
Last time January 6 in the media Keith?
The feds keep putting oath keepers in jail
But that’s all
System grinding the knuckleheads down
Jan. 6 was an attack on the United States government by a group of Republican terrorists and hoodlums.
It’s a day that will live in infamy (as FDR said of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor).
You are well known for trying to smooth over Republican outrages but the fact that you want to ignore this vicious attack on our government by these pieces of Republican filth is bit much ,even for the likes of you.
I agree that it was something that goes back to Civil War and the Birth of the nation….
Bit the reality is in this day and age the spotlight moves fast even for the Jan. 6 attempt to steal a national election….
The incident will come back front and center when the Feds hand down the indictments for the top level conspirators and the Georgia indictments come out in month or so…
And after the judge in NYC told him to be quiet he did….
Now he has a new target
We’ll see if the Federal Judge stands for the Roy Cohn bull shit defense attack thing…
He digs his own troubles…..
Keep giving the Feds more evidence for Free stupid!
Yeah right….
He is having two rallies this weekend.
Reckon he’s going to “ toned it down? “
Only an idiot would believe that.
Again……
Heeding the NY judge he STFU about that
He’s Got a new target
Let’s see if the Fed judge clips his mouth…
BTW
He’s ‘thing’ will be to go back after the GOP 2024 field
What’s the above have to do with anything?
This discussion began with Trumps appearance on Sean Hannitys show.
You claimed that your son had watched it and said that Trump was “toning it down.”You admitted you hadn’t watched it but claimed that you had noticed the same thing.
This has nothing to do with Trump being restrained in attacking a court.
We are talking politics .
And no Trump hadn’t “ toned down”at all in his political attacks.
As usual when caught in one of your absurd “observations “ you try to obfuscate by steering the conversation to a whole different subject.
I’m not talking about court orders.Im talking about his daily political attacks and they haven’t “toned down” at all as everyone (except you apparently) knows.
Simple…….
Trump DID tone his act down on the show and around the time the judge and his lawyers TOLD HIM TOO..
As usual i make specific point and u try to oit fox me….
Trump was and IS in shock to some degree
Even his rants are NOT. On the level they where
Only here will you read this type of gibberish.
No where else,no News site ,no newspaper ,no commentary…NOWHERE have I read anyone claim that Trump has “toned it down” for the simple reason…he hasn’t.
No one is trying to “out Fox” you.
You simply make these ridiculous type statements and when called on it you resort to obfuscation and out and out lies.
I repeat there exists no evidence whatsoever that Trump has in any way “toned down” his vicious attacks upon anyone who disagrees with him.
Nor will he.
His Republican supporters love this stuff.It validates their hate and their lies.
Only a fool would pretend otherwise.
Well Jack
I STAND BY my view……
The guy IS in deep shit
He is scared
He isn’t who he was back in 2016 like some would want u to believe
“Stand by” whatever the Hell you want!
Your comments as to Trump being “scared”,in “deep shit”, and some irrelevant remark about 2016?
Have nothing to do with the FACT that he has not “toned” down” anything,nor will he because ,unlike you, Trump understands that it’s his permanent attack mode that motivates his followers.
The day Trump becomes just another candidate?
Is the day he’s finished.
I disagree Jack…….
It’s ok…….
I can live with it…….
Trump HAS TO ALSO…….
Again?
He ain’t fucking Super Man….
I HAVE SAID here his defense against the criminal charges is run his mouth, A La Roy Cohn, at anything and anyone…..
But even THAT is NOT of the same intensity that was…..
Trump IS in the Big Leagues now
He can keep punching
But i see it diminishing
U don’t
It’s ALL good
The guy ain’t gonna get his old job back
That IS the goal
He’s Right
It’s making him tired
Oh and my son says Donald Trump is beginning to look OLDER than Biden……
Hmmmm?
What Exactly are you “disagreeing “ with?
And be specific.
Exactly what I posted do you “disagree “ with?
That Trump is the same guy he was in the media
He is NOT
His social media time increased
His rants in public have decreased
There’s no evidence of that whatsoever.
Check his wild rant today in Georgia .
This is a perfect example of how you just make stuff up ,knowing that usually no one bothers to challenge you because the few people here know your penchant for making things up out of whole cloth.
I had nothing to do this afternoon so I decided to watch you lie and obfuscate in memory of our old friend Zreebs who frequently caught you making things up.I called you on your lie and you’ve spent several hours making baseless statements about Trump “toning down” while amusingly at the very moment you were obfuscating he was on an epic rant in Georgia.
As I’ve said NOWHERE is there any claim that Trump is “toning things down” Except here.
Gross silliness.
Again ……
I stand by observation’s and views
His comments today are a attempt to argue his way out of the indictment…,.
It won’t work……
It’s weak….
Again?
He’s worried
Distracted
He is NOT Trump of 2016
The grind IS wearing him down
Gross for sure.
Jack makes a good point. When James gets called out for his silly observations he simply tells additional lies and then “stands by” his lie even when he provides nothing to support his statement.
It’s clear Trump is threatening civil war and many Republicans are following along.
After all these years James has learned nothing.
U funny Keith…….
‘Civil War’????
What Civil War?
Donald Trump is hears foot steps…..
The doors ARE CLOSING on him
In a repeat on Jan.6 he’s trying to more suckers to go to jail FOR HIM…..
This is desperation
AGAIN!
Donald J. Trump is going to see the judge about FEDERAL FELONIES…….
He isn’t knocking other GOPer’s running for the nomination
He’s just going back in his sorry bag of tricks to get the media attention that will get him more sorry assed idiots to help him screw them over…..
You TWO seem to have taken the bait and afford him ‘mystical powers ‘ he simply does NOT have….
Keep at it guys
His flock have to love ya for it!
The Big guy lies like rug and when caught cries like a BIG BABY
Trump wants the focus on what HE WANTS…..
Not on the criminal activity he does and is unrepentant about…..
As in the impeachment show script he successfully followed….
One hopes the ‘memo’ about not pursuing his big ass next year is trashed like it is in the state DA’s cases…..
U cannot allow him any way to crawl away ….
Read the Roy Cohn post here as a reference
The Feds gonna have to be on their game….
This goes down in Trump friendly Florida with a judge that got beat down’s for trying to help Trump who got her the job….
You TWO…afford him mystical powers he simply does not have.”
A bald faced LIE.
No one ever said any such thing.
I said that there is no evidence he has “toned down” as you claimed There isn’t.
Your weird obsession with Trump is well known.I really don’t care about it but when you LIE as you have done here?I will call you on it.
The evidence IS how u react to his bull shit…
He’s just one person crying in a attempt to get over
No more no less
Yes he has a base
But
Even in his own party there ARE those who are NOT gonna follow him off the political cliff
I chose to KEEP pointing THAT OUT INSTEAD of amplifying his bull shit lies and those eat there up
More lies.
An obtuse, dimwit who is incapable of making a coherent argument.
Jack is right, James certainly isn’t capable of making a coherent argument in support of a ridiculous position as he has clearly shown us over the last few years here.
We have a Presidential candidate openly inciting insurrection as he did on January 6th, his supporters are threatening violence, and the rule of law is under attack. And we’re the ones giving Trump mystical powers, an accusation that is laughable given our host’s obsession with Trump these last seven years.
Just admit you’re wrong James.
Ha, ha, ha…..
I LOVE U TWO!…..
Trump talking shit is the END of America?
He’s getting arrested AGAIN….
The last time people listened to him?
They got arrested!
He, he, he?
Wrong?
You Funny…..
Wait?
You guys haven’t told me he can walk on water also?
Seriously….
You guys stocking up on supplies for when a FOUR TIMES Arrested LOSER is gonna magically beat the charges and win a job SEVEN Million people fired his big ass from…..
Wrong?
You guys gotta do BETTER than this…..
I have said no such thing.
You’re a two bit Liar.
The adjective ain’t gonna work Jay…..
But U CAN keep throwing it around…..
I HAVE presented facts here…..
It’s all good…..
TWO BIT?
Ok…..
But I can’t touch the Big Guy…..
Good God man !
Give it up!
Everybody here knows you’re lying.
Nobody here believes that Keith and I believe Trump Has “mystical powers .”
Really,
What kind of idiot are you?
All this because I pointed out that nowhere but here would anyone read such rubbish as that Trump has “toned down”( your words).
Just because you can’t defend that bit of silliness you have spent all day totally lying ,claiming we said things that we plainly havent.
Take a break Clarence.
Trump has so deranged you that you are now so wrapped up in some kind of weird paranoia that you have lied so much that you actually believe your lies are reality.
Meanwhile Trump has spent the weekend in James’ make believe world,uh, “toning It down”
Last night he appeared in front of a bunch of Georgia crackas with a typical performance blasting here and there over his indictment.
Then he fires his lawyers.
Today he’s calling his former AG Bill Barr a “slob” (3 different times ) and to top it off a “fat pig.” All because Barrs said that Trump was in a lot of trouble and that this whole thing was all on him.
Just think what he would have said if he hadn’t “toned it down!”
Guess it takes a fat pig to know one
Again….
Trump WAS going after his felllow primary sweepstakes contestant’s….
THAT is on the back burner ….
As you point out…..
Trump has a date with a court on Tuesday and now is taking pot shots at those who correctly see past the noise and point out that the Big Guy IS in Deep SHIT CRIMINALLY…..
He WAS quiet due to the judge’s order’s and DeSantis missteps…
Now?
Scared….
He’s striking out and the media LOVES it…..
Yes….
The toning down IS put on the shelf NOW….
Again?
Let’s see what the arrignment judge says……
I’m doing DAMN good making my point of view here….
So good?
You keep biting at it…..