In my mind ?
He’s already surpassed Donald Trump and the rest of the Republican field for the 2024 Republican Presidential nomination sweepstakes….
But?
THAT is IS gonna be a YUGE problem for DeSantis and the Republican Party…
A slugfast …
In public ?
Is gonna hurt the Grand ole’ Party and make Democrats VERY HAPPY…..
And create a media show though to beat …
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is on a collision course with the most powerful man in the GOP: Donald Trump.
DeSantis is crisscrossing the country to deliver red-meat speeches. Iowa leaders begged him to visit. He just beat Trump in a key straw poll. And now the popular governor is getting close to overshadowing the former president in the 2024 presidential sweepstakes.
All of that could be dangerous for DeSantis’ political health, as Trump continues to ponder a new bid for the White House and remains capable of kneecapping any Republican he sees as a threat.
“It makes it difficult to openly start campaigning as [Trump] at least contemplates running again,” said Saul Anuzis, former chair of the Republican Party of Michigan, cautioning it’s still “early” in the election cycle. “It keeps activists on the sidelines.”
DeSantis, who has the benefit of claiming he’s just running for reelection, continues to gain accolades for opening up Florida during the coronavirus pandemic sooner than most large states. His frequent appearances on Fox News put him in the national spotlight almost nightly. Last weekend, DeSantis beat Trump 74-71 in the annual Western Conservative Summit’s straw poll in Denver — results that surprised even organizers of the summit. Last year, Trump won the same straw poll with nearly 95 percent support….
image…Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis gives two thumbs up towards then-President Donald Trump during a 2020 campaign event. | Joe Raedle/Getty Images
DeSantis has not “surpassed” Trump among Republican voters.
A straw poll at some obscure meeting of Right Wingers does not a “surpass” make.
I stand by MY view that DeSantis right now is in the lead for 2024….
My view IS. That Trump will NOT be the party
Nominee….
Domald Trump is a Loser
The party will not run him again and risk the humiliation of him getting his ass kicked TWICE and dragging them down
The guy is just a circus side show now….
Believe me
He’s done
He can’t get past losing
Back to the future, a little over five years ago we were being told that Trump could never be the nominee, the Republicans we’re going to nominate Jeb.
Trump told the Republicans what they wanted to hear and said it in their language, their voters loved it, their leaders were too weak and craven to stop him (still are), and Trump with a lot of outside help from people determined to bring down our government was installed as President.
Even factoring just how fucking stupidly crazy he is, Trump is still the leader of the Party.
Putting all the wishful blog fantasy aside, it’s impossible to predict just what will happen in 2024. But I know that at this time six years ago a certain obese Governor of New Jersey was the odds on favorite for the GOP nomination. Why? Because someone here told us so repeatedly.
I definitely never said Republicans were going to nominate Jeb although I wish they would have and was supporting him when he ran. I also never thought Chris Christie had a chance of being nominated. Maybe others did.
Nobody here thought Trump would be the nominee or President.
Now, I don’t think anyone here actually believes he will be the Republican nominee in 2024.
How many people think Biden will be the Dem nominee in 2024? Probably slightly more likely than Trump at least.
Like I said, back to the future with a little revisionism thrown in.
I can remember being told that George Allen was going to be the next GOP nominee.
That didn’t happen either.
We have, however, been told repeatedly that Trump was finished here for five plus years. All wrong, sometimes ridiculously so. The fantasy that the Republican Party will go back to Poppy’s Party is a joke.
Who cares about “how many people here think” when we have seen exactly how Republicans think. It ain’t pretty. As my English cousin would say, “time to start over with that lot.”
We clearly know who the two people are here who are openly rooting for Trump to be the 2024 nominee.. james and Keith. I can’t say I blame them politically.
Saying in 2006, “George Allen, Next President?” was hardly a prediction either. It was a question.
*If* DeSantis becomes the nominee (I will be supporting someone else surely), he will follow in the footsteps of Poppy Bush in having been the Captain of the Yale baseball team.
… thereby alienating and renouncing, on a non-partisan basis, a gigantic base of Crimson supporters
Cf. Tommy Turberville vs the Crimson Tide
He also has a degree from Harvard Law
I’m still waiting for Trump to “lose interest in politics”
He was never interested in it in the first place, just in his own ego. He said at his rally that he wished Stacy Abrams had been elected Governor of Georgia instead of Brian Kemp.
Whether Trump was ever “really interested” in politics is as irrelevant as to whether or not he is “really a Republican”.
The GOP didn’t even have a party platform in 2020. Their whole platform was basically Trump’s whims. If he never even cared about politics what a sad sad ending to the Party of Lincoln.
He’s doing ‘that’s entertainment’ Scott
It’s a ‘revenge’ tour!
Politics?
Trump?
The guy seems after all he can steal!
Once again without the revisionisms, the point of my last two posts was that lots of people write lots of things on blogs that never come anywhere near to becoming true. But only a few of them hold those words, study them, and demand apologies for them years later.
Of course some of the more hysterical and ridiculous predictions, like George Allen (the surfer dude) might actually become President someday, do stick in my mind. But they usually come so fast and furious that we don’t keep up.
I worked and raised money for six years so that Donald Trump would not President again. I don’t want to take any chances he might be so again.
But I also don’t want to have those who enabled him in office either. Nor do I have any respect for those who try to excuse the insurrection of January 6th (to include half of the elected Republicans in DC). The fact that folks cannot, through their excuses, see how dangerous the Republican authoritarian mind set has become is actually scary. It’s as if they we’re always waiting for Donald Trump to come along, their Great White Hope.
I recall hearing with certainly how somebody’s “good friend” Ann Kirkpatrick was going to unseat John McCain (“if he even survives his primary”) and that Chuck Grassley was sure to lose to Patty Judge.
Then, there was a whole lot for a couple years about how Susan Collins was done for.
I for one think that the media will contiune to keep an eye on the Big Guy just the NYC DA and NY AG…..
He IS in Deep legal shit….
Ga and DC DA’s are also on hos case
In the unlikely event that DeSantis would run against Trump, Trump would be willing to go low against DeSantis, but DeSantis could not do the same against Trump. Advantage Trump.
“Little” Marco Rubio tried that (ridicule and abuse) in one of the 2016 GOP Pres. debates, but got nowhere.
DeSantis is not Marco
I see James has a new hero.
Ron DeSantis.
The giant killer who is going to slew the evil Trump!
Not that there is much difference between them.
I agree with Zreebs.DeSantis would be highly unlikely to challenge Trump for the nomination
If Trump doesn’t run?Then it will likely be a free for all with any number of candidates ,almost all of them vying for Trumps endorsement.
However, let’s assume Trump runs for the nomination and loses.Who doesn’t think that he will declare the process rigged and essentially carry on as he’s done since losing the November election?Then he would either run as an “Independent” or ,while not running himself ,mercilessly attack the nominee.
You can call him a”loser” all you want.The undeniable fact is that he still is the major player in the Republican Party (where the majority question whether he even lost the election) and must be treated very delicately by all potential candidates, DeSantis included.
Does anybody truly believe Trump is going to run in 2024?
I understand some people may want him to run in 2024 but that is not the question.
In regards to DeSantis, Democrats should probably be focused on stopping him in 2022 and preventing a Presidential bid, but DeSantis is running for reelection in what had been considered a swing state and where the last three Gubernatorial elections were razor thin.
Yet, currently, DeSantis easily has a double digit lead over any opponent. Either that says something about the political appeal of DeSantis or about the significant weakening of Democrats in Florida.
I said awhile back I didn’t think he would.
However,as I said above, he will still be the major player in the nomination battle with all the major candidates vying for his support.
He’s more likely to see himself as a “kingmaker” than a candidate.
I have mentioned that what I am seeing online from the Trump-loving bloggers who have not totally given up on the electoral process itself, is that they are now openly saying that DeSantis would be a better choice than Trump.
This is a must read
https://m.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2021/06/28/inside-gun-surrendering-criminal-mark-mccloskeys-very-sad-st-louis-rally
Nice crowd for the wing nuts, eh?
Did you read the article? Literally tens of people showed up. As pathetic as Trump’s rallies have become Trumpism without Trump is even sadder.
This should be a reflection point for the GOP.
Should be is the operative phrase here.
Greitens’ Dungeon Party probably had a bigger turnout.
He, he, he
‘Tens of people’❗️
The Trump Folks that I know have all said the same thing DeSantis is on the Rise and is becoming the standard bearer for Trumpism…If you will allow me a little football reference DeSantis is Aaron Rogers Drafted and Trump is Pre-Dick Pick/Pre-Jets Brett Favre, but Brett (trump) doesn’t have that much longer as the quarterback…but time is relative, what is a long time…Is it one year or three I don’t know…either way DeSantis is the guy waiting in the wings to take the spot when Trump is gone (again time frame for me is 1-3 years)
DeSantis is NOT waiting….
He’s on the hunt…..
If the Orange Machine decides to Throw in a run for 2024 Desantis sits back on the sideline…until the next election season…I don’t think Trump has a realistic chance of winning, but running for President may prolong legal matters for him, get him money and attention to fight said legal matters so it is possible that he could run…No Trump Republican (majority of Republicans) would run against him…And I don’t think Desantis would go for VP cause he would see what happens to the last Trump VP…his political career is done for now…no shot he wins any Republican Primary for President…not with traitor calls heckling him….
I disagree Bdog….
I do NOT see him being relevant or running in 2024…..