The US high court with a push from recent media questions has ruled that there is no reason that Donald Trump’s tax records should be withheld from the Manhattan District Attorney’s criminal probe of Trump finances….
On a broader opinion the top Federal court has laid out that a American President CAN be investigated for criminal behaviour while IN office b y state officials ….The Justice Department has a rule against that very thing on a Federal level.
Manhattan DA Vance’s grand jury investigation of Trump’s tax filing’s and has indicated that the probe is much wider and deeper that publicly revealed.
Trump lawyer challenged the specific supoena for his data…
That has been rejected by the justices ….
Trump successfully kept his tax information from the public, Congress and The DA for the last 4 years…No other President in modern times has done so, or held that info back….
The criminal Grad jury will get the returns and move ahead….
Donald Trump should be worried…
The New York State Attorney General has already taken his foundation from him…
The DA could charge his organizatioin and maybe even him depending the handing up of grand jury criminal charges…
The Supreme Court on Monday rejected a last-ditch attempt by former President Donald J. Trump to shield his financial records, issuing a brief, unsigned order requiring Mr. Trump’s accountants to turn over his tax and other records to prosecutors in New York.
The court’s order was a decisive defeat for Mr. Trump, who had gone to extraordinary lengths to keep his tax returns and related documents secret.
The case concerned a subpoena to Mr. Trump’s accountants, Mazars USA, by the office of the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., a Democrat. The firm has said it will comply with the final ruling of the courts, meaning that the grand jury should receive the documents in short order.
Mr. Vance issued a three-word statement in response to the court’s order: “The work continues.”
Under grand jury secrecy rules, it would ordinarily be unclear when, if ever, the public would see the information. But The New York Times has obtained more than two decades of tax return data of Mr. Trump and his companies, and it recently published a series of articles about them.
Mr. Trump, the articles said, has sustained significant losses, owes enormous debts that he is personally obligated to repay, has avoided paying federal income taxes in 11 of the 18 years The Times examined and paid just $750 in both 2016 and 2017.
The scope of Mr. Vance’s inquiry remains unclear. It arose partly from an investigation by his office into hush-money payments to two women who said they had affairs with Mr. Trump, relationships the president has denied. But court filings by prosecutors suggested that they are also investigating potential crimes like tax and insurance fraud.
The subpoena sought tax records and financial statements since 2011, engagement agreements with the accountants who prepared them, the underlying raw financial data and information about how the data were analyzed.
In July, the Supreme Court soundly rejected Mr. Trump’s central constitutional argument against the subpoena — that state prosecutors are powerless to investigate a sitting president.
“No citizen, not even the president, is categorically above the common duty to produce evidence when called upon in a criminal proceeding,” Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. wrote for the majority in that decision…
jamesb says
More on the high court….
The Supreme Court on Monday said it will review a pair of Trump-era policies barring federal family planning funds to abortion clinics and limiting immigrants’ use of public benefits, even as the Biden administration signals it’s preparing to roll back those policies.
The justices’ decision to hear a challenge to President Donald Trump’s restrictions on the Title X family planning program, which critics deride as a “gag rule,” could serve as a key test of how the Supreme Court’s newly fortified 6-3 conservative majority will approach abortion. The justices will also weigh the constitutionality of Trump’s so-called “public charge” rule, which expanded the government’s ability to deny green cards or visas for legal immigrants determined to be dependent on public assistance….
More…
The court could actually pass on these cases if Biden moves change the politics before June…
My Name Is Jack says
Trump says he’s a victim of Fascism.
jamesb says
Trump Is Angry Prosecutors Will See His Tax Returns
Jonathan Chait: “Donald Trump’s yearslong quest to prevent the public, Congress, or law-enforcement officials from seeing his tax statements came to a resounding end with a unanimous Supreme Court ruling. He did not take the defeat in stride. Instead, the former president released a statement that, even by Trumpian standards, brims with anger.”
“Trump’s response bears every hallmark of an authentically Trump-authored text, as opposed to the knockoff versions produced by his aides. It is meandering, filled with run-on sentences, gratuitous insults, and exclamation points.”
“The statement does contain one unambiguously true point: ‘This is something which has never happened to a president before.’ That’s correct, because every president for the past several decades has voluntarily released his financial information. Only Trump refused.”
Democratic Socialist Dave says
Text of Trump’s statement:
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1363927173489393668
Scott P says
He can tell it to CPAC.
Where I agree with Zreebs that Trump will likely get the loudest applause–and also that some here may claim Democrats are to blame for that comically.
Keith says
Trump just chased David Perdue out of the GA Senate race, does anyone doubt he runs the Republican Party?
Scott P says
Im sure that’s the Democrats fault Keith. You know all the influence we have in the Georgia GOP.
CG says
What does Trump have to do with this apparent Perdue decision?
I think Georgia Republicans can do better than Perdue.
CG says
Perdue would have been the Trumpiest of candidates.
Scott P says
Marjorie Taylor Greene could run.
Scott P says
Perdue made the decision after speaking with Trump. Who only wanted to talk about retribution to Brian Kemp and McConnell.
CG says
Where is this being reported that Perdue talked with Trump? It is not in the recently posted accounts I have read. Perdue was perhaps Trump’s biggest Senate ally through all four years.
If the suggestion is that DJT is trying to clear the Senate field for MTG, that would be very surprising to me. I do not think anyone here actually believes that. Such a thing would go further than anything at this point to get rank and file Republican political figures to move away from Trump.
Scott P says
Maggie Haberman reported that Perdue and Trump had a long round of golf and dinner with Trump and it “did not go well”.
Take from that what you will.
CG says
And then at the end of her Tweet, which I have now seen, it says sources close to Perdue said it had nothing to do with his decision.
This sounds more like a Trump ally and his wife realizing that they did not have a good chance of victory or did not want to be part of the political scenario he was hovering over.
So, this sounds like a victory for the “anti-Trump” Republicans more than anything.
jamesb says
Hey Keith?
Trump showed up down there to ‘help’ the party and talked MOSTLY about HIMSELF?
Heck he helped the party so much they LOST TWO Senate seats in a Red state?
He’s running the damn party into the ground..
CG says
Which is why Keith and james are applauding of course.
jamesb says
CG?
The party kissed his ass….
They now have some who realised it smelled….Others are too far away
Scott P says
Why do you care if 2 Democrats on a blog are “applauding”.
They can give a standing O or cry in the corner over what happened in Georgia and it won’t make a damn bit of difference in Trump’s continued dominance of the GOP.
CG says
Acknowledgement does not necessarily equal “care.”
As I have said, Donald Trump has been and is the best thing Democrats have going, so the most purely partisan among them want to keep that rolling as long as possible.
They would one day preserve his body like Lenin so that they could parade him across the country and campaign against him for 100 years plus.
My Name Is Jack says
Well that’s a pretty searing indictment of the Republican Party.
They gave the Democrats this gift.
Whoever knew they were so benevolent?
The truth is ,I think all of us here would be ecstatic if we never heard the name ,Donald Trump,again.I know I would.The damage he has done to this country,indeed to our political system Is incalculable
It isn’t us who are keeping his banner held high.
It’s the Republican Party.
jamesb says
I agree on Trump HELPING Democrats….
ALWAYS said THAT!
Democratic Socialist Dave says
Conservative political conference CPAC drops speaker over anti-Semitic tweets
David Jackson
USA TODAY
WASHINGTON – An upcoming conservative political conference – featuring an appearance by ex-President Donald Trump – pulled one its panelists Monday over anti-Semitic tweets.
“We have just learned that someone we invited to CPAC has expressed reprehensible views that have no home with our conference or our organization,” said a tweeted statement from organizers of the annual Conservative Political Action Conference. “The individual will not be participating at our conference.”
The speaker in question is identified as Young Pharaoh, a hip-hop artist and online commentator who has dabbled in conspiracy theories.
CPAC acted after Media Matters for America, a research organization that tracks conservative outlets, reported that, among other things, Young Pharaoh “has told followers that Judaism is a ‘complete lie’ and ‘made up for political gain,'” and that “Jewish people are ‘thieving fake Jews.'”…
http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/~/644948310/0/usatoday-newstopstories~Conservative-political-conference-CPAC-drops-speaker-over-antiSemitic-tweets/
Scott P says
“Dabbled in conspiracy theories”
Ha! The entirety of CPAC is conspiracy theories.
Zreebs says
“Judaism is a complete lie”.
Considering that most of the most common Western and Mideastern religions are an offshoot of Judaism, that is a remarkable statement -even for a conservative.
CG says
sounds exactly like Farrakhan and old-school Sharpton.
It might be nice if they ever got disinvited from anything.
Zreebs says
In late 2019, Al Sharpton led a coalition of black leaders to meet with Rabbi Marc Schneider to condemn Anti-Semitism in New York. Perhaps you can make up for some of your past statements and follow in Sharpton’s footsteps to join together with LGBT people in a stop the hate campaign?
And Louis Farrakhan has certainly been critical of Democrats. I don’t recall Farrakhan speaking at a convention as a representative of Democrats. In fact, I don’t recall even seeing Farrakhan in years.
CG says
Farrakhan has been and remains a regular guest at Congressional Black Caucus events.
Perhaps Sharpton, who has changed his image from what it used to be, should apologize for his past actions and deeds. He has steadfastly refused to apologize for anything. I do not know who Rabbi Marc Schenider is or if that is supposed to wipe his past away
As for me, I have absolutely no reason to apologize to the LGBT community. Farrakhan certainly should apologize to them though as well.
jamesb says
CG?
With ALL due respect ?
Ya need to come back to TODAY….
All this back in the day , when the whole atmosphere was different does NOTHING for TODAY…..
Just my view …
CG says
You are not managing to communicate your thoughts very well in my view, so I am not sure what you are trying to say.
jamesb says
If the Republicans do something stupid TODAY …
U instinctively look for Democrats did in the past…
We ALL try to back our stuff up…
But I do NOT accept past Den actions as excuses for present GOPer stuff…
CG says
Stupid is as stupid does.
Both parties continue to do stupid things. Nobody has been harder on Trumpists than me.
You cannot look past your blue pom-poms.
Zreebs says
You said for example that gay people shouldn’t be allowed to marry.
If someone said that Jews shouldn’t be allowed to marry or have children, would that be acceptable?
You just want to have a double standard so that you can criticize others for things they said than are not as bad as things you said.
CG says
Myself and about 90 percent of the country back then. I bet it was something you believed too. I did support Civil Unions though. Where are you going to demand this apology line start?
Zreebs says
You are the one always asking for apologies. I don’t care whether you apologize.
90? It might have been less than 90% when you were born. And yeah, I would expect people to admit they were wrong on past issues.
I never liked Farraghan. I am not defending him.
CG says
Who have I asked to apologize? The issue I have is hypocrisy and how people interact with others. I have apologized to people here in the past and/or retracted statements when I feel I went too far.
The equivalent would be me attacking people for not having supported same sex marriage when at the same time I did not support same sex marriage such as how Keith attacks politicians in the past for using racism as a political tool when it was something he himself was quite prominently known for and has no regrets about.
Keith says
Not sure how my past “transgressions” became part of this conversation, just as I am baffled why Louis Farrakhan, someone who broke with the Democratic Party years ago, is being discussed. But I can guess. The “King of What About” is back at it, when he should be working.
I never asked anyone to apologize. I did, however, ask them to acknowledge the racist history of their party instead of making “what about” excuses for that racism — and homophobia too. The Republican Party made their opposition to gay marriage a cornerstone of their political philosophy, indeed in many quarters they still do. In fact, if there had been a Republican Platform this last election it would have included a plank opposing gay marriage.
I do find it amusing that someone who can “remember” every single off colored remark someone made to an anonymous woman from Kentucky on a previous blog over ten years ago cannot remember their own homophobic comments made in defense of the GOP’s use of the marriage issue to divide the voting population. Or his defense of the voter suppression efforts of his party.
I think that is called selective memory and the Republicans are really good at it, especially as they find themselves objecting to some nasty tweets from a woman, of course it would be a woman, after four years of dismissing Trump’s vile and nasty tweets.
Need to go, because I am working, and work always comes first!
CG says
Nothing back in the day could ever have been more homophobic than making goading comments and jokes to a 19 year old gay kid about suicide.
CG says
At no point in my life, even as a child, did I say anything remotely as bad or nasty about gay people than Louis Farrakhan has said about them relatively recently.
And that’s not even comparable to the things that Farrakhan has always said about Jews.
But in regards to “should Jews be allowed to marry and have children…”, if he means it, I think that should perhaps make Zreebs realize the importance of the survival of Israel.
Zreebs says
No body here cares what Keith said or did 40 years ago – other than you. I have not researched Keith’s past other than reading one article that included his name years ago when you first outed him. you know more about Keith than me. But I do know that Keith is not racist today, and if had said racist things in the past, I am rather certain that he regrets them.
Most of us have some aspect of our distant past that we would do differently if we had the chance. I know I do.
CG says
Oh let’s at least be clear that you knew his real name and had met with him personally before I was ever told what his last name was and was able to “research.”
And yet somehow you care that I expressed opposition to legalized same sex marriage in 2004 or whenever.
Zreebs says
I did know Keith’s last name before you did, but that doesn’t mean I “researched” him.
I don’t think it is common to research other people like you do. I don’t even research my friends. Some of what you find online is inaccurate anyway.
CG says
Of course you did. I used to doubt he was the bigshot he claimed he was, and you assured me, after you met him, that he was a highly ranked federal employee, and that you had read government reports he wrote, etc.. So of course you knew his full name when you met him, several years before I was told his last name in 2015.
Also, Keith “researched” me from his federal government office, a decade or more before I knew his last name, and knew that I had given some money to the Bush /Cheney ’04 campaign and thus knew the name of my then employer and supposed job title. This led to someone who shared my name (but was definitely not me) having personal information posted on P1 and people contacting them, thinking they were me.
Additionally Zreebs, years ago, you somehow knew the name of the suburb I lived in.
CG says
and you also asked if I you could use the phone number listed for me to contact me.
To your credit, at least you asked and gave me the chance to say no thanks.
Zreebs says
I do not recall that, but I have no reason to doubt you. I did know your last name and there can’t be too many CG’s in Chicagoland. Most likely I looked it up on anywho.com. That is where I usually get phone numbers of people.
We would likely be getting along at least a little better if you accepted my invitation to break bread together. It is easier to demonize a person if she/he is always virtual.
Truthfully, I’m tired of always battling with you. There is no question that I deserve a lot of the blame for that. Maybe we can somehow find a way to get along a little better? Maybe we both can spend less time trying to “win” our arguments and more time trying to understand. We both could do better.
CG says
ok, I read “did” as “didn’t” Trying to multitask. My bad. Apologies offered.
Zreebs says
I do recall stating that Keith was a reasonably high level public official, but we are connected to each other on a professional website where his work information is readily available.
I do know the town where you live – or at least previously lived in. I don’t recall how I knew it, but I suspect it came from P1.
Again, you appear to be implying that I told you Keith’s last name which is a damn lie.
And you can’t blame Keith if he wants to research some nuggets about you given how you stalk him. But if he really wanted to, I am sure he could pay to find out more about you including where you work.
CG says
I do not see how you get that implication. I never said anything like that.
Scott P says
This is such a predictable path. We point out that Trump has control over the Republican Party in 2021 based on things that happen or Republican politicians with complete fealty to Trump say.
CG claims it’s all because the handful of us on this blog are “applauding” it. As if what we want or don’t want means a goddamn thing to Lindsey Graham, Roy Blunt, Kevin McCarthy etc etc.
CG gets mad and brings up stuff Keith supposedly said or did in 1982, with a bit of that right wing villian Al Sharpton (bum bum bumm!!!) thrown in for good measure.
All to distract from the path the rank and file Republican Party has chosen to go down despite the “wishes” or “applause” of anyone on this blog–much less a handful of damn Democrats!
jamesb says
Ok….
You got my point Scott….
Zreebs says
Props to Scott for getting James’s point – even though he wasn’t responding to James or for that matter responding to anything James ever said.
I hope James also gives the rest of us credit for understanding his point when we write a good post that has nothing to do with anything he said.
jamesb says
Update…
The Manhattan DA HAS Donald J Trump’s tax info…..
Kaitlan Collins
@kaitlancollins
The Manhattan District Attorney’s office has obtained Trump’s tax returns and related records, per
@KaraScannell
. They got them Monday after the Supreme Court rejected his effort to block them. The records include millions of pages of documents.