And as the below Washington Post piece points out ?
It is a problem area for the transition people and more so Joe Biden….
The job should go to Sally Yates ….
She would need little time to get up to speed….
She was the acting AG for Trump, being a hold over from the Obama admin for 10 days…..
She was fired for standing up against Trumnp’s religious based travel ban….It took the Supreme Court to0 get Trump’s people to change some of the ban to have it stand…
This is would make it difficult for Yates to get confirmed from a Republican majority Senate…
The other two names floated for the spot are essentially non-starters …
Merrick Garland is a Appeals Court judge who would be replaced by a Republican something Biden should not be thinking about…
Doug Jones the outgoing Alabama US Senator, who Biden knows from his Senate days….
The guy would probably be in over his head ….
This is complicated by the problems Joe B Biden’s son Hunter has…
I know I shouldn’t say this , but what father is gonna appoint someone that would put his son in jail?
Trump wouldn’t straight up….
So Joe Biden and the people who produce the names seem to be in a holding pattern on this one….
Do they wait for the January Georgia Us Senate runoff, to see if they can actually get a tied US Senate that Vice President Kamala Harris could give them a majority?
Or?
Do they hold their nose and pick someone?
This IS a tough one….
….the transition team seems to have stalled on one of the most critical picks: attorney general. No obvious front-runner has emerged among the names most commonly mentioned, includingAlabama Sen. Doug Jones, Judge Merrick Garland and former acting attorney general Sally Yates.
he runoff elections in Georgia (giving Vice President-elect Kamala D. Harris the tie-breaking vote), Yates might not survive a confirmation fight, given that Republican senators have been irrationally obsessed with the Russian investigation and willfully ignorant of her role in it. Likewise, without a Senate majority, Biden might not get through a nominee to replace Garland on the Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit if he were the pick. In any event, his civil rights record is not particularly noteworthy. And Jones, an older, White friend of Biden without a long history in the Justice Department, has not impressed civil rights groups who, among other things, are displeased with his votes to confirm judges and his views on abortion….
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No hiring committee likes to go back to the drawing board and give up on potential hires. But “sunk cost fallacy” should not drive the decision. If they have not found a candidate as exciting as the ones announced this week, Biden and his advisers should take the time to look for others. There are a few categories of potential AG candidates….
image…From left: Sen. Doug Jones, Judge Merrick Garland and Sally Yates Getty Images
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Explain to us ,in great detail please ,how former United States attorney and U.S .Senator Doug Jones would be “in over his head” as Attorney General.
Doug Jones has NOT operated on the level that Yates has Jack…
Check the Bio from Wiki….
The other guy is a dank judge….
Honestly Jack?
REALLY?
Oh don’t patronize me you clown,
Hell a lot of AGs never actively practiced law (see Bobby Kennedy)John Mitchell was a damn bond lawyer.
Doug Jones is eminently qualified to serve as AG if chosen and to read the likes of you ,who has not the least understanding of anything about the law or the AG position claim that he would be “in over his head “ is disgusting.
Kennedy’s brother…..
John Michael?????
How come Jones hasn’t been named already?
All three of those people are highly qualified and would be outstanding choices.
I beg to differ Z…..
Biden will choose who he wants but the hold up seems to confirm the issues stated….
Once again, you have no idea why Biden hasn’t named an AG yet.
It could be any number of things..
Ok Jack….
Give me just 2 more reasons u might think are the problems?
james claims Biden “knows Jones from his Senate days.”
Perhaps he did, but Biden left the Senate in 2008 and Jones became a Senator in 2017. That claim makes zero sense.
Overall, james commentary on this thread and this topic is almost mind-numbingly weird.
I mean why not pick Eric Holder or Loretta Lynch if recent seniority in the Justice Department is the only criteria to make someone qualified? They both outranked Yates.
Holder COULD work but I get ur joke of Lynch…..
FYI CG…..
….Jones introduced Biden, then a young senator, when the latter spoke at his Alabama law school. Years later, Jones worked with the Senate Judiciary Committee, of which Biden was a member. Jones was Alabama co-chair of Biden’s 1988 presidential campaign and helped raise money for his 2008 bid. Biden, in turn, was one of the few national Democratic figures who campaigned for Jones in his 2017 Senate campaign…..
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For goodness sake, if Jones was supporting Biden in 1988 and 2008, he definitely deserves to be the pick. I have always thought it was Jones job, if he wanted it.
Whomever is chosen might have no choice but to say they would appoint a Special Counsel in the Hunter Biden matter,
Again CG?
WTF haven’t they announced Jones has the spot?
We KNOW who the next Alabama US Senator is gonna be….
Could it be that Black are NOT happy with a possible Jones pick?
Could it be he’s REALLY NOT ‘AS’ qualified as the transition people would like a AG pick to be with following up Barr and the President’s son’s issues?
I said this before…
This choice HAS to be FULLY considered…
Even though YOU want Hunter charged to weaken Biden….
Biden HAS to want somebody that ‘a la’ Trump’ who HE can trust NOT to go after his son criminally…just make him pay his back taxes….
I could be wrong…
But the father of one son gone too soon
I would NOT want anything else…
Nonsensical gibberish.
What hasn’t (fill in the blank) bern named?
So u can’t answer my question, eh?
What question?
Give me 2 other reasons why Jones has NOT. Been give the AG job yet Jack
1, The U.S. Senate is in session and Jones is not able to get to Wilmington, DE for a press event.
2. When he does, right before Xmas, he plans to appear dressed as Santa Claus and take part in a skit where he symbolically puts subpeonas in the stockings of various Trump Admin officials.
This is so stupid.
Look Bozo this whole discussion started because you said that Jones would be “in over his head” as AG.I challenged you to produce evidence of that.
You couldn’t so,as usual, you start obfuscating by essentially saying that Yates and Garland were better “qualified ” which of course had nothing to do with my point.
You then started another discussion with CG and the two became intertwined .
Unable to back up anything you said you fall back on the inane “well why hasn’t Biden appointed Jones?”
I don’t know.
Why hasn’t he appointed Yates?
Why hasn’t he appointed Garland?
Why hasn’t he appointed me?
Just typical of your inability to intelligently discuss any issue.
The fact is you want Yates and so you attacked Jones for no particular reason other than he is another contender (ala your attack on Harris when you were all in for Susan Rice for VP) .One can use this tactic if one has some evidence and the ability to communicate the same.
You have neither.
take a vacation
You have now reached the point where you are saying you want Biden to act like Trump.
I think james, that disqualifies you henceforth as a Trump critic.
Why do you think that blacks would not support Jones?
Sorry to hear about your son dying. I had not heard that.
I believe he was talking about Biden.
I admit it’s difficult to follow his stream of consciousness type writing.
Well I admit that I usually do not understand his points and you are better than me at understanding him. But what else could he mean by “Could it be that Black are NOT happy with a possible Jones pick”?
No I didn’t make myself clear.
I was speaking of the son dying.
I think he was referring to Bidens son,Beau.
Thanks Jack u understand me pretty darn good…
Not MY son
Biden’s
I don’t he’s gonna be gung ho for a AG that is gonna go hard after his son like I thought CG was pushing…
Obviously an AG ,whoever that may be ,appointed by Biden will not handle any investigation or any possible subsequent prosecution Of Hunter Biden.
Whoever becomes Attorney General, or carries over as Acting A-G, should obviously do Rob Rosenberg did, and appoint an independent Special Counsel.
Anything coming from the U.S. Attorney for Delaware [whether he or she be the current one or — unwisely — a new Biden nominee] should go to that special counsel rather than up the usual channels.
Otherwise, there will always be the suspicion that the DoJ went too lightly or too heavily on the President’s son.
¶ The disadvantage to Special Counsels, and the reason given by Congress for repealing the post-Watergate Special Counsel law — is that a special counsel often sees the evidence, testimony and investigation through the prism of a prosecution, rather than come back and report “nothing doing”, which bets the question of “why did you go through all this?” Possible examples (subject to partisan debate) would be Larry Walsh in Iran/Contra, Ken Starr in Whitewater (which wandered on a fishing expedition far, far removed from a failed S&L), and the Scooter Libby case.
Yes DSD….
And THAT is why some GOPer’s want a Spec Pros…
Got it.
I probably should have understood what James was saying, but I didn’t get it. This is an example why I don’t read your comments James. You don’t make much of an effort to be clear in what you are trying to say. Often you say things that appear to be unrelated to the discussion, and I thought this was one of those times,
Anyway, glad your son is alive and kicking.
Thanks Z…
So am I…
1. Several picks have not been announced yet, Normal people do not care about this. It will be “announced” eventually.
2. Perhaps there had been an issue recently about why it was all white people being nominated to the “top” Cabinet slots, but by picking Austin instead of of Flouroy for Defense, that is no longer going to be as big of a story.
3. I think it would be woke white liberals on Twitter who would object the most to a southern white man as AG than African-Americans. Jones record as a prosecutor is a strong one. This speaks more about the ethos on the far left than anything else.
4. This “qualification” stuff is ridiculous. Jones clearly has a background in the federal government and Justice Department specifically and its about being a manager anyway.
5. I do not “want” Hunter Biden charged anymore than I want to see any human get in trouble, but if Hunter Biden broke the law, he should be held responsible, regardless of how powerful his father is. That should be an easy standard. The fact that you seem so hellbent in Biden world pulling strings to get Hunter Biden “off the hook”, whether he might truly be guilty or not gives you the same moral standing as the Trump apologists.
Regarding #3, Are You suggesting that the “far left” whites don’t like Jones because he is a southern white? Then how did the former Governor of GA, the former Governor of AR, and a former Senator of TN win the Democratic nominations for President?
Only aging greybeards like myself remember when Sen. Fred Harris (southern Democrat, Oklahoma) was the populist anti-establishment hero of what was once called the liberal wing of the Democratic Party.
I remember Harris.
I think he ran for President in 1972 and I think again in 1976.
I also seem to recall that Humphrey considered him as a VP candidate in 1968.
Wasnt he DNC Chairman too?
He’s still alive.
His first wife was a Native American activist who was a third party Vice Presidential nominee in 1980.
When did that last happen?
I think it is fairly unlikely that Democrats will nominate a white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant heterosexual cisgender male without a disability for President. anytime soon, let alone one from the South.
And as any idiot knows, the Democrats are not ready to nominate any transgendered person for President this decade. You should know that.
Hopefully, the time will come when a transgendered person could be elected President, but it will not be this decade.
I listed all the diversity qualifications.
Name for me a Democrat, who has all the traits mentioned that might possibly be nominated for President.
The Democratic Party often has candidates that come out of nowhere to win the nomination.
If Sherri Brown were to run, he would have a good chance to win the nomination. Right now, K Harris looks like the front runner for 2024 if Biden does not run.
Didn’t Brown consider a few times before?
And yes Z….
I agree on the 2024 Dem early looks like ticket…
The iPad autocorrected for Sherrod
Perhaps if he announces that he has become “Sherri Brown…”
Such a Democrat has not been nominated for 20 years and it is very doubtful that it will happen anytime soon. Almost without exception, all of our Presidents have been white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant heterosexual cisgender males without a disability.
(Republicans have always nominated one for the Presidency with the exception of LDS member Mitt Romney in 2012)
Speculation about James Buchanan aside, Biden will be just the second Catholic President, and FDR’s disability was largely kept a secret when he was President.
In regards to the Vice Presidency, up until January, the one non-white person to have held the office was Republican Charles Curtis.
The LDS church is Protestant. You should know that too.
No, the LDS church is not Protestant. They are Mormon.
Christian, yes, though many other Christians argue strenuously about that. But they are not considered “Protestant.”
And the reason that Bernie Sanders was the runner-up had nothing to do with him being Jewish.
Bernie is not a WASP and he was not nominated.
It has happened with incredible frequency. In fact, it has happened so often in the past few decades that it couldn’t be by chance. What percentage of the US population are white Democratic men from the South?
I personally don’t know of any Democrat whom has said they don’t want the attorney general to be a southern male, and I bet you don’t either. You sometimes just say things like this because you have not made much of an effort to understand how liberals think.
There have been voices in the party who have gone on television and said the next Attorney General should be someone who has “experienced discrimination”, so that would leave out Jones.. at least up to now.
The more interesting and immediate story is whom Newsom is going to pick to replace Harris in the Senate. When she was nominated, I said he would face political pressure to replace her with another black woman and that Karen Bass might be likely, and the person who considers himself the unassailable California insider laughed at this and said anyone who is anyone knows it will be Alex Padilla.
We are still waiting for Newsom to make this pick, but plenty of Democrats are going on television and insisting that Newsom pick a black woman such as Bass or Barbara Lee.
If that happens, Democrats will temporarily be down to I believe just a two seat margin in the House.
The California Governor has to also replace his outgoing AG….
but that won’t be a story of national interest
Newsom is having tremendous political problems at home in California now after his visit to the French Laundry,
Yes he is….
Somebody I think has laughed a recall against Newsom
Nope Z…..
I remember seeing something to effect some minority Dem’s did not want Jones because they thought a black , brown or yellow person should get the spot….
u also saw something about the KKK case not being alll that….
That is NOT my misgivings about him…
Ref Jones.…
President-elect Joe Biden’s top advisers have asked at least one outside advocacy group for input about Sen. Doug Jones as a potential attorney general, one indication that his team is giving serious consideration to the Alabama Democrat as the nation’s top law enforcement official.
Biden is not expected to make a decision this week, prolonging the debate both inside and outside his transition team over what will be one of the highest-profile roles in his administration. It has sent the wider legal and political worlds into a frenzy, with Biden’s close-knit advisers keeping a tight lid on their decision-making process amid widespread interest over who will lead a consequential department whose morale has plummeted under an assault from President Trump.
It also has extended questions about the diversity of Biden’s Cabinet, as a range of groups press him to name a Black attorney general in the aftermath of a national racial reckoning on race that Biden has vowed to systematically address.
At least four candidates remain under serious consideration for the position, according to two people familiar with the decision-making process who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to talk about internal discussions. In addition to Jones, top Biden advisers are eyeing former deputy attorney general Sally Yates, federal appeals court judge Merrick Garland and former Massachusetts governor Deval Patrick. All but Patrick are White….
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If Doug Jones wants the job, it will be his.
Perhaps he does not want the job. The matter of Hunter Biden may complicate things personally for some in terms of what they would have to go through.
Biden has already put together a diverse Cabinet. He is just missing an Asian-American and a Republican so far.
( I was thinking today of the James Watts standard from the early 80s when he bragged his committee had “a black, a woman, two Jews, and a cripple.”)
Sherrod Brown would likely be a very strong candidate. The progressive base would be energized. He doesn’t come across as elite and He would put Ohio in play.
There are very few Democrats who say “I want to vote for a white male Protestant.” That is far more likely to be Republicans who think that way. Because Democrats are most likely to vote for who they think is the best candidate and straight white male Protestants make up a relatively small minority of Democrats, it follows that there is less than a 50-50 chance that Democrats will choose a straight white male Protestant.
I don’t think that being gay helped Buttigieg in his race. Buttigieg was arguably the most effective Democratic candidate in answering questions from reporters. But Democrats wanted to win and Buttugieg did poorly in one- on- one polling against Trump.
I thought that Warren was also an extremely talented candidate, but she also did poorly in one on one vs Trump.
Sanders came closer to winning the nomination than his numbers show, but doing poorly in SC just prior to Super Tuesday ended his campaign. But I don’t think that Sanders religion either helped or hurt his chances.
Biden won the nomination because he effectively portrayed himself as the candidate most likely to beat Trump. It wasn’t because Democrats were saying “I want a Catholic”.
Sherrod Brown, as a feisty Midwestern populist (a real populist, not a tax cuts for the rich fake Republican populist) could have been a strong contender for the Democratic nomination. Joining the list of other feisty Midwestern populists who could have been strong contenders had they chosen to run in their times-Russ Feingold, Paul Wellstone, Al Franken.
And Biden won in South Carolina where you HAVE TO win to get the Democratic nomination….
Sanders actually was closer to Biden in SC then the others….
Buttigieg is never gonna win SC….
Neither is Warren….
The Democratic voters in the state are actually NOT much left leaning….
Sanders did good on policy….
But Biden was Obama’s Vice President and had spent time there during his 8 years….
No progressive is gonna lead the Democratic Party anytime soon….
I know people here don’t like it when I repeat it…
But the Democratic Party is NOT gonna move much to left in the next two years…..
They took a beatdown with AOC/Warren/And Sanders stuff in the primaries….
Biden and Pelosi will have to recalibrate ….
And stay in the middle….
AOC can’t even get a goos committee spot from her party members , who would leave her standing at the nearest bus stop if they could….
Harris is the clear favourite right now as someone pointed out here…
She has backed away form the Medicare for All and being Biden’s VP she will follow him in the middle…
The BIG GOAL for Democrats will be NOT to have another 2010 political blood bath…..
And the Republicans led by McConnell and Toomey are already hard at work setting the stage…
James if AOC or other progressives aren’t going to take control of the party any time soon why do they live so rent free in your head?
He, he, he….
EVERYBODY lives rent free in this head….
Ur right I might be overreacting to the progressive push within the Democratic Party….
That’s fair…
But I just want to point out that Dem’s need to hold on to the House in 2022
…From Politico on the possible AG and CIA picks….
SHRINKING POOL FOR CIA CHIEF — Former acting CIA Director MICHAEL MORELL, who until earlier this month was considered the frontrunner to be Biden’s CIA director, has taken himself out of the running, two people close to him confirmed to NATASHA BERTRAND.
Morell’s prospects for the job had faded as negative reactions rolled in from influential progressives — Sen. RON WYDEN (D-Ore.), who sits on the Senate Intelligence Committee, accused Morell of defending the CIA’s past use of torture.
The Biden team ultimately wanted to distance itself from the stigma of the agency’s “enhanced interrogation” program, people familiar with their thinking said, and Morell also did not want the president-elect or the CIA to have to relitigate the issue in the early days of the new administration. Former deputy director DAVID COHEN remains the leading contender for the role, the people said.
WHAT’S SLOWING DOWN THE AG PICK? Well for one thing, the president-elect and his advisers are considering announcing other leadership roles in the Justice Department alongside the attorney general, including deputy secretary roles, solicitor general or head of the civil rights division, TYLER PAGER and Natasha report.
The frontrunners for the job, Judge MERRICK GARLAND and soon-to-be former Sen. DOUG JONES, are both white men, and Biden wants to demonstrate that the department’s leadership will be diverse, particularly when it comes to its civil rights work, the people said.
No longer a frontrunner: Former Deputy Attorney General SALLY YATES’ standing has sunk thanks to opposition from Republicans, a number of whom have threatened to vote against her nomination.
They are critical of Yates’ involvement in several of the most politically polarizing investigations of the Obama and early Trump administrations, including the HILLARY CLINTON email investigation and the investigation into Russia’s 2016 election interference….
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Democratic wins in Ga for both US Seante seats would change things for Yates one would think….
With your favorite,Sally Yates out and your contention that Doug Jones would be “in over his head” (for reasons that you laughably could never explain) looks like you now will have to be for Garland.
In my view,Garland would me a mistake.Not because of making up something out of whole cloth as you did with Jones, but because it would remove him from a federal judgeship on a most important Apellate Court Which would likely set up a fight over that judicial appointment.
The Dems will get to appoint a replacement if they win both senate seats. But it they choose a moderate like Garland- especially if she/he is older, then she/he will likely be approved even without winning both seats.
I stated as you do now that Garland is BAD choice ALL the way around….
So?
There is someone else coming if Biden names someone before the Jan 5th Ga runoff results….
I believe the linked piece offers up a few other names
As a straight white male I’m a minority in the Democratic Party. That I’m OK with that just proves I’m in the right party.
Actually you ARE Scott….
Link….
I’m assuming most white Democrats ARE straight….
Well since the Gay population is usually estimated at around 10% of the population,that statement likely would apply to any ethnic or national group .
The 10%, I’ve read or heard, is just a completely dicey, off-the-wall approximation, based on a 1940’s Kinsey study of a male prison population sample that may not be representative of very much at all.
It’s just been used because it’s all there was.
And, of course, that’s just the start of the methodological difficulty. There is a relatively small proportion of either men or women who could be classified as 100% straight or 100% gay. Most people fall somewhere between those poles (I would strongly suspect, for biological-evolutionary reasons, clustering closer to the straight pole.)
But seventy years ago, homosexual practices were a crime in civil society, a sin in nearly every religion and almost never spoken of in polite society or the media (except for occasional disapproval, sadness or condemnation). Before gays (and later others in the LGBTQ spectrum) started feeling safe, as they now do more often although very far from completely, in coming out (even to themselves), it was essentially impossible to assess the distribution of gay and straight.
I’d be even more chary of saying that X% of one ethnicity will be reflected by X% of any other.
I’ve only read about this casually and spasmodically, so I’m certain that Keith could provide far better information.