Biden’s boss back 12 year’s ago President Obama tried to get a deal with Republican’s in Congress on immigration….
To set up the deal Obama went hard down illegal immigration …Deporting a LOT of undocumented people…In the end?
Republicans said thank you for the deportations but we ain’t gonna do a deal….
This cost Obama and Biden politically…
Of course under Trump and his trusty anti -immigration assistant Stephen Miller there has been super strong efforts to cut off the flow of people trying to ‘come to America’….
The enforcement efforts have resulted in the US Government wearhousing children separated for their parents, sub-human detention facilities and countless illegal actions that judges have tried to overturn….(Even the Border cops no happy with)…
With Joe Biden getting ready to take over with a immigrant turned US citizen Homeland boss?
Immigrant advocacy groups are reminding the media and Biden people of the Obama era actions that seemed no better than the Trump admin actions of the last 4 years….
Immigration has been the ‘new’ blood for America and everybody here?
Has family that came from somewhere else….
So far, advocates are encouraged by Biden’s pick to lead the Department of Homeland Security: Alejandro Mayorkas, a Cuban-born lawyer and one of the architects of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. Still, they’re gearing up to ensure Biden keeps immigration a top focus amid a long list of competing interests, from coronavirus response to climate change to racial equity.
Biden already has a long to-do list to rebuild the U.S. immigration system. But he could be hamstrung by a divided Congress that’s never managed to pass comprehensive immigration reform.
“Hell yeah, I’m optimistic. I don’t know what the hell we were going to do if Trump won again,” said Marisa Franco, executive director of Mijente, a grassroots Latinx advocacy group. “But then the other side of me is like, ‘I know how this works.’”
“Nothing is going to be enough that [Biden] does and that’s the same issue that folks in the crime-and-justice movement have and folks in policing [reform] have. I think it’s very possible for things to get lost and that’s what our job is: To make sure it doesn’t,” Franco added.
Biden must move quickly to prove he has learned from President Barack Obama’s mistakes on immigration. Obama — despite creating DACA — was dubbed “deporter in chief” and is known for expanding the detention of immigrant families and dragging his feet on major immigration legislation…
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Much of Biden’s immigration agenda won’t happen overnight — regardless of whether he personally prioritizes it or not. Executive orders won’t override all of Trump’s actions and the process for implementing new regulations requires multiple bureaucratic hurdles.
One challenge will be building a better asylum system, particularly at the U.S.-Mexico border. And that could be even more complicated if migration to the border surges early next year. And the recent hurricanes in Central America, the economic downturn and Trump’s departure makes a surge a distinct possibility.
“Long term, they can change policies, but it will take time to do it,” said Andrew Selee, president of the Migration Policy Institute. “And I don’t think they’re going to have any new tools in the tool kit on Day One to handle that.”
That means the Biden administration will be forced to keep a lot of Trump measures at the border, while they try to build a better system, Selee said.
jamesb says
This IS a problem for Democrats….
(((Harry Enten)))
@ForecasterEnten
I picked out a few… The Hispanic swing toward Trump happened across the map… From MA to CA to TX to FL…
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My Name Is Jack says
Apparently, a lot of Hispanics here ,who have obtained citizenship ,have little interest in immigration .
Or maybe their attitude is,”I’ve got mine,the Hell with the rest of you.”
Oddly I have seen that phenomenon at work in court.I have prosecuted several Hispanic on Hispanic assault cases.In one the victim was an “illegal,” while the defendant was “legal.”The defendant made a big deal about that fact as somehow elevating himself in the eyes of the law.
In my view, while the Hispanic vote will still remain in the majority Democratic,the Republican share will be significant.The idea that the Hispanic vote would be as lopsided Democratic as the Black vote has been is a mirage.
jamesb says
I’ve also be surprised at this Jack…
i assume the legal’s going thru the process come to resent those who do not,…
Biden and Democrats need to address this in that the Hispanic/Latino vote will continue to grow…
I also agree with u that on the whole?
Democrats can expect most of their vote…
CG says
get people on your side to stop talking about completely open borders with no consequences and free everything (as was a big thing in the early D Presidential debates) and certainly stop talking about “Defunding the Police.”
Also perhaps the party demanding taxpayer funding of abortion for the first time ever might have turned off some religious voters who also happen to be Latino.
In spite of all that Biden still won, largely on the back of voters who voted Republican down the ballot because they distrusted the national Democrats.
CG says
I think we can look at the overall results and surmise that if not for doing such a horrible job on Covid and maybe just being somewhat too much of a jerk, Trump actually would have won.
If things in America had stayed frozen as they were in February, Trump would have been reelected.
That is kind of scary in a way but should be a definite warning to Democrats about how the public perceives them and many of their policies.
The mandate for Biden is clear… do a better job on beating the pandemic and unite the county as much as possible using the bully pulpit. I caught the end of his Thanksgiving speech today and he is great at things like that.
Beyond that, they are going to have to tread very carefully.
jamesb says
CG?
U contradict urself….
It wasn’t JUST the virus as say…
It was a President that JUST played to his base…
Who showed distain for his fellow country men and women….
Who made headlines bending the system that we all live by…
Who failed to deliver on promises…
The list could go on and on CG….
He wasn’t supposed to win…
He showed us why …
This time 80 million people showed they got the message…
It IS THAT simple really…
CG says
and he still “almost won” at least via the Electoral College. The whole “if so many votes changed in just four states…” applies just like it did in 2016.
I wish it were not the case either, but if not for Covid, he probably would have won four more years. If he would have handled Covid well, he probably would have won even bigger.
People have serious concerns about the policies of Democrats. Just be glad you guys nominated Biden and not Sanders or Warren.
Scott P says
Considering how much closer Trump came to winning the Electoral College while losing the popular vote by what will likely be at least a 5 PT spread do you now support aboloshing the Electoral College CG?
CG says
No. I think abolishing it is a valid concept that I would also not rule out of hand totally (besides the fact that it will never actually happen), but the system works just fine, Both sides knew the rules going in and the person who won the popular vote won the EC, which is usually what happens.
They had the better strategy, The Trump team screwed themselves by telling their voters how bad voting by mail was.
CG says
I don’t think the spread will get to five. I did predict like 8 points though so I was off.
Scott P says
Didn’t think so. At heart you are still s Republican and Republicans have lost 8 of the last 9 elections in the popular vote.
Scott P says
Correction. 7 of the last 8 popular votes. Still the Republican Party needs the Electoral College to even have a chance at winning the Presidency so it makes sense a once and future Republican opppses doing what a most Americans think is sorely needed–repealing the EC.
jamesb says
You guys saw the comment I put up about a week ago that points to the GOPer Senators in the majority rep a small majority of the actual number of America….
But the Senator’s rep STATES not population like the House does….
It IS the way things where meant to be….
CG says
Understanding the benefits of the Electoral College has nothing to do with ideology or a desire to see any party or candidate win. It is about the political structure and how campaigns are run. There is merit in a national popular vote, but the things that people hate about politics and how campaigns are conducted (i.e. big money) would only dramatically accelerate.
And perhaps the one Democrat in all those elections to lose the popular vote should retire.
jamesb says
And may I add to the Trump screw ups story?
The product ITSELF was so flawed when people actually found out what it was?…They turned it in for an old reliable one
jamesb says
Most people on MY SIDE do NOT support defunding the police….
Neither does Joe Biden,..
Biden is NOT gonna just open the borders…
Biden will embrace the cemetery and sometimes the left…
calm down and enjoy the ride
CG says
He’s a zombie now?
Democratic Socialist Dave says
“Biden will embrace the cemetery…” — Death wish ??
or just the source of all those illegal votes that got him fruadulently elected?
CG says
Maybe james meant that Biden will show more respect than Trump did at Arlington National Cemetery or those overseas places where the non-losers and non-suckers lay at rest.
Zreebs says
At the risk of stating the obvious, anyone who supports large tax cuts without corresponding spending (such as yourself) has no business criticizing Democrats for “free stuff”. By supporting massive deficit spending, you are as big, if not a bigger advocate of free stuff than any Democrat in Congress.
Try to avoid being hypocritical.
CG says
I am not sure if this was supposed to be addressed to me or not, but it makes zero sense. Happy Thanksgiving.
Zreebs says
If you support government spending without the taxes to pay for you want, then of course you support free stuff. You don’t do that much self reflecting of your ideas, so I wouldn’t be surprised if you never thought of that.
CG says
I think you should always be careful in assigning beliefs to someone without knowing for sure. You have gotten yourself in trouble for that before.
Generally speaking I support low taxes and limited government spending.
The taxes paid on income does not equate to “free stuff.” By definition, people have to work to earn that income. To put it in simple terms, “it’s their money” and they should be able to keep as much of it as possible.
CG says
and the two local level Republicans you joined me in voting for both lost, including the 10 year incumbent Board of Review member….
He actually won the Chicago portion of his district but got beaten badly in the suburbs, likely due to Trump.
The Democrat who unseated him was recently a defense attorney for the Chicago police officer who was found guilty of the murder of Laquon McDonald.
Zreebs says
If you want to buy something without having to pay for it, then you want free stuff. You were a big supporter of Reagan, who believed in that voodoo.
You indicated before that you supported the Trump tax cuts – and those tax cuts did not have any corresponding spending decrease. And like all other recent Republicans who followed a Democrat, spending increased during their term.
Since I have known you, you have been a much bigger advocate of tax cuts than spending cuts. In fact you have been a much bigger fan of defense spending increases than me, which is the biggest discretionary part of the budget. If that is not true, then what you say on these pages is not the same as what you believe.
jamesb says
Bravo Z on ur point that the 2017 tax cut gave away government revenue while the GOPer’s opened the government piggy bank….
The same Republicans are balking at spending more stimulus money to prop up the economy….
There seems to be a agreement on a spending bill after Biden asked Pelosi to cut a deal, even if it’s bad to not have a government shut down greeting him on his first day in the office…
Zreebs says
And there are only a handful of Democrats in Congress – probably fewer than 10 – who support open borders. Bernie Sanders even has talked forcefully against open borders. Just because Trump successfully accused the Democrats of this, doesn’t mean it is true.
CG says
I am sure you saw the early debates. The positions stated were that there should be no penalties whatsoever for crossing the border without authorization and that any such person should be a part of the variations of Medicare for All or national health insurance.
CG says
No criminal penalties that is.
Here is a refresher
https://apnews.com/article/7827b2f0f2e642a692f211bda2e8b9dc
Remember the saying that in politics, “if you are explaining you are losing” and it is tough to argue that Democrats did not lose a lot of elections this year that they probably should have won.
Zreebs says
The reality -and you know it- is that if people who don’t have insurance get deathly sick, then the hospital will take care of them anyway. And so ultimately we are paying for the uninsured anyway. What hospitals won’t do for the uninsured is pay for the far less expensive, but cost-effective preventative care. One of the reasons that healthcare costs in the US are so outrageously expensive relative to countries with a national healthcare system is that we don’t take care of the uninsured until they are ready to die, and then the costs are a fortune. The status quo is not only ineffective, but it is too expensive.
CG says
Again Zreebs, your hostility is misplaced. I guess I will always be “evil” to some, even after I vote for a Democrat. Go figure.
Your argument with the status quo in regards to Medicare for All is also an argument you would have with the upcoming Biden Administration.
Of course I believe our society must treat anyone who falls ill in America, whomever they are, but the concept of granting illegal immigrants massive government entitlements is not something that is thought of as mainstream and part of the reason Democrats have the reputation they do. Doing just that would simply mean that there is a massive magnet for anyone to come to America illegally, instead of through the legally established procedures, which is how we should want people to come to our country.
Zreebs says
I do not agree with the Biden’s position on healthcare. At the same time, I am forgiving of it because progressives don’t have the votes for a better, and what in the long term I believe will be a less costly healthcare system.
jamesb says
This country also embraces ‘choice’ in health insurance something some of the social healthcare program’s do Not offer….
“Choice’ Is a American culture thing….
It is working FOR the virus growth right now….
jamesb says
Sanders, who was a mayor back in the day IS against defunding the police also…
Democratic Socialist Dave says
I noticed this sort of attitude in 2016 in Rhode Island, when most of the Cape Verdean and Azorean voters (of various complexionxs) that I knew seemed quite sympathetic to Donald Trump including, or despite, his declarations about immigration and immigrants.