Interesting times for polling ….
On the national polling scene ….
Trump vs Biden is running either still Biden by a blow out or closer now….
Depends on which polling house….
Harry Enten below says Trump has stopped declining in the polls due to the protest’s and race issues subsiding in the news….But STILL is being hurt by his virus non-action’s…
| Thursday, August 6 |
| Race/Topic (Click to Sort) | Poll | Results | Spread |
|---|---|---|---|
| Maine: Trump vs. Biden | Quinnipiac | Biden 52, Trump 37 | Biden +15 |
| Maine CD2: Trump vs. Biden | Quinnipiac | Biden 44, Trump 45 | Trump +1 |
| Maine CD1: Trump vs. Biden | Quinnipiac | Biden 61, Trump 30 | Biden +31 |
| Kentucky: Trump vs. Biden | Quinnipiac | Trump 50, Biden 41 | Trump +9 |
| South Carolina: Trump vs. Biden | Quinnipiac | Trump 47, Biden 42 | Trump +5 |
| Wednesday, August 5 |
| Race/Topic (Click to Sort) | Poll | Results | Spread |
|---|---|---|---|
| General Election: Trump vs. Biden | The Hill/HarrisX | Biden 43, Trump 40 | Biden +3 |
| General Election: Trump vs. Biden | Rasmussen Reports | Biden 48, Trump 45 | Biden +3 |
| General Election: Trump vs. Biden | Economist/YouGov | Biden 49, Trump 40 | Biden +9 |
| Iowa: Trump vs. Biden | Monmouth* | Trump 48, Biden 46 | Trump +2 |
| Hawaii: Trump vs. Biden | HNN/Civil Beat | Biden 56, Trump 29 | Biden +27 |
| Tuesday, August 4 |
| Race/Topic (Click to Sort) | Poll | Results | Spread |
|---|---|---|---|
| California: Trump vs. Biden | Berkeley IGS | Biden 67, Trump 28 | Biden +39 |
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New Quinnipiac polls of some interesting U.S. Senate races:
- South Carolina: Graham 44%, Harrison 44%
- Maine: Gideon 47%, Collins 43%
- Kentucky: McConnell 49%, McGrath 44%
Said pollster Tim Malloy: “Big political names. Huge political stakes. High anxiety for the GOP. Three GOP Senators who easily won their last reelection bids are looking over their shoulders less than three months from Election Day.”
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A new Pew Research poll finds President Trump’s approval at a dismal 38% to 59%.
Among Republicans and Republican leaners, 77% currently say they approve of Trump’s performance; only 5% of Democrats and Democratic leaners say the same.
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Minorities between the ages of 18 and 34 are showing overwhelming support for former Vice PresidentJoe Biden, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, in a national poll released this week by Buzzfeed Newsand Telemundo.
The poll found 60 percent of young Latino voters, 75 percent of young non-Hispanic Black voters, and 72 percent of young non-Hispanic Asian voters said that they would vote for Biden.
Respectively, 19 percent, 12 percent, and 16 percent of respondents in those groups said they would vote to reelect President Trump. Among young non-Hispanic white voters, 40 percent said they’d vote for Trump and 48 percent said they would vote for Biden.
More @ The Hill…
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There’s little doubt that former Vice President Joe Biden has the upperhand against President Donald Trump at this point. Biden has led in poll after poll nationally and in almost every poll in the core six battleground states (Arizona, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin).
New Open Thread is HERE…
They just pulled Donald Trump off the podium in the WH briefing room because of a shooting outside.
He looked like an Alzheimer’s patient being led off. “What? Come with you? Ok. I think I was saying something… …. Will there be pudding?”
In other news Governor Kemp of Georgia said the reopening of the schools has gone really well. He and Tate Reeves must have the same speech writer.
He went back 10 min latter…
The big guy is having issues with woman reporters asking him questions
It seem to cause him to walk out of the pressers….
Washington (CNN) President Donald Trump abruptly ended a Saturday news conference after a reporter challenged him on a lie about veterans health care he has told more than 150 times.
Trump, speaking at his Bedminster, New Jersey, golf club, had claimed again that he is the one who got the Veterans Choice program passed — adding, “They’ve been trying to get that passed for decades and decades and decades and no president’s ever been able to do it, and we got it done.”
In fact, former President Barack Obama signed the Choice program into law in 2014. The law, which allowed eligible veterans to be covered by the government for care provided by doctors outside the VA system, was a bipartisan initiative spearheaded by two senators Trump has repeatedly criticized, Bernie Sanders of Vermont and the late John McCain of Arizona.
What Trump signed was a 2018 law, the VA MISSION Act, that modified and expanded the eligibility criteria from the Choice program. Rather than tout that bill, Trump has claimed over and over that he created Veterans Choice itself — after others had failed for “50 years.”
“Why do you keep saying that you passed Veterans Choice?” CBS News White House correspondent Paula Reid asked Trump at the Saturday news conference, during which Trump announced executive actions on coronavirus relief.
As Trump tried to call on another reporter instead, Reid continued, “You said that you passed Veterans Choice. It was passed in 2014…it was a false statement, sir.”
Trump paused, then responded: “OK. Thank you very much, everybody.” He then walked away as the song “YMCA” played.
Trump had either never or almost never been challenged on the Veterans Choice claim before Reid did so.
Madison Cawthorn just got caught over his obvious admiration for Hitler, deleting photos of Adolf’s retreat where he referred to him as Fuhrer.
How Republican of him.
GOP Candidate Deletes Photos from Hitler’s Retreat
Madison Cawthorn (R), the 25-year-old who beat his Trump-backed primary opponent in North Carolina’s 11th congressional district in June, has deleted nine Instagram photos in which he appeared to celebrate a trip to Adolph Hitler’s Nazi retreat, the Jewish Telegraphic Agency reports.
Cawthorn also refers to Hitler as the “Führer,” a term of reverence, in captions he made to the photos.
I’ve been to the Eagle’s Nest. It’s a very somber place to visit. The Germans wanted to destroy the whole mountain getaway after WWII but the Allies insisted it be kept standing with a memorial to Holocaust victims at the summit
I was about Madison’s age when I went there and would never have spoken about it being a place I put on my “bucket list”. Nor would I have referred to Hitler as “Fuhrer”.
Yeah this kid is weird. Republicans would be wise to toss him to the curb.
Let’ be careful about “tossing people” in a wheelchair to the curb.
Perhaps, he should follow the example of Karen Bass, who says if she knew then (as a Member of Congress) what she knows now, she would not have referred to Fidel Castro with an honorific title.
I’ve heard “Fuhrer” used in a derisive way many times so I do not really get that angle.
Just by reading the article, there are some other issues associated with his flippant attitude towards these sort of things though. Hopefully, this is an example of him being a somewhat dumb, Gentile kid, who is or was still growing in maturity.
And in other anti-Semitism news, I hope everyone here can agree that we would be happy to see Ilhan Omar defeated by her Democrat opponent in today’s Minnesota primary.
What’s anti-Semitic about Ilhan Omar ?
I know she has a relatively radical (in the U.S.) view of Israeli-Palestinian relations, but that’s another matter.
“It’s all about the Benjamins” , etc. etc. Numerous other examples of anti-Semitic tropes.
https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/adl-calls-on-house-leadership-to-take-action-after-rep-omars-anti-semitic
The Minneapolis Star-Tribune, hardly a conservative paper, makes mention of these and other issues with Ilhan Omar in endorsing her primary opponent:
https://www.startribune.com/fifth-district-endorsement-melton-meaux-for-integrity-and-progress/572020522/
Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) is locked in a bitter primary battle against Antone Melton-Meaux as voters head to the polls in Minnesota’s 5th Congressional District on Tuesday to decide whether the progressive lawmaker will serve a second term in office….
More…
Extra Bonus Quote of the Day
“If I don’t win the election, China will own the United States. You’re going to have to learn to speak Chinese, you want to know the truth.”
— President Trump, in an interview with Hugh Hewitt.
I though there was going to be a taco cart on every corner. Will there also now be a Panda Express?
learning Chinese is certainly something many more American students should be doing. I know some who have taken it in school. It could prove to be very valuable in the future for a variety of reasons.
Remember when it was considered more useful to learn Russian and Japanese (than, say, French, German or Spanish)?
And the old 1960’s joke was that an optimist starts learning Russian, while the pessimist is learning Chinese.
New Thread tonight….
Susan Collins Trailing In Maine
A new Critical Insights poll in Maine finds Sarah Gideon (D) leading Sen. Susan Collins (R) in the U.S. Senate race, 43% to 35%.
In the presidential race, Joe Biden leads Donald Trump statewide, 44% to 36%, and just edges him in the swing second congressional district, 39% to 38%.
In that Maine poll there are virtually no ticket splitters. Something Collins desperately needs considering Trump is likely to lose the state by 10 points or more.
Looks like Cawthorn is running the same racialist campaign that Trump is
https://www.wunc.org/post/nc11-cawthorn-takes-hard-right-turn
Hmm, didn’t someone on here champion his primary victory as some sort of sign that Trump is losing influence in the GOP?
In the context of the candidate endorsed by Trump (and Meadows) losing the primary. You choose to read more into that which I cannot help.
I guess young Madison will never be asked to be on a Presidential ticket then.
But, of course, with today’s GOP he would probably be very popular.
IA-Pres: A Monmouth survey has some interesting noise when you play with the likely voter screen. Trump leads Biden 48%-45% among registered voters. Among likely voters in a high turnout race, Trump leads Biden 48%-46%. Finally, in a lower turnout race, likely voters are tied up at 47%.
RRH Elections…
Poll-Based Election Forecasts Will Always Struggle With Uncertainty
— We have no idea how much uncertainty exists in pre-election polls. That leads to very complex poll-based forecast models.
— The general public lacks the expertise necessary to appropriately interpret win probabilities from those complex models.
— Some research shows that overly certain forecasts might depress turnout, which could matter in close races.
James, Did you lose power From the storm yesterday?
Nope….
We were VERY lucky….
Tree’s and power lines are down ALL around….
Some people won’t get their power back until late today or tomorrow ….
Happy to hear the good news
Thanks…
How U?
Rachel Bitcofer EV’s as of 8/6/2020
July 26: Florida moves from Toss-up to Leans Democratic, Texas from Leans Republican to Toss-up; Michigan, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin from Leans to Likely Democratic.
No combinations remain for Republicans to win.
EV’s / Needed for 270
Democrat 318 0
Republican 125 145
Ties
Link @ 270 to Win…
Biden moves to clean up a gaff….
Joe Biden
@JoeBiden
Earlier today, I made some comments about diversity in the African American and Latino communities that I want to clarify. In no way did I mean to suggest the African American community is a monolith—not by identity, not on issues, not at all.
I’m living back in Illinois – at least for now until my company decides its long term plans.
Illinois U.S. Senate
http://cgpolitics.blogspot.com/2020/08/race-of-day-illinois-us-senate.html
Good Morning All
I’ll have more later but it appears Trump is now seeking to show he’s tough on China as one of the diversion for the campaign …
I’ll also be looking at the question of whose polls are better….
Dr Anthony Fauci talks at 1 p.m. today to Dr Ashid Jhah and the Brown University community here:
https://www.brown.edu/academics/public-health/fauci
A Conversation with Dr. Anthony S. Fauci
Please join President Christina H. Paxson and Dr. Ashish K. Jha, incoming dean of the School of Public Health
Friday, August 7, 2020
1 to 1:45 p.m.
Introduction: President Christina H. Paxson
Conversation: Dr. Fauci and Dean Jha
In this webinar, Dr. Fauci — one of the nation’s most visible public health leaders — will discuss COVID-19 and address the challenges and responsibilities public health scholars and practitioners face in limiting the pandemic’s spread.
A member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, Dr. Fauci has served as the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health since 1984. He brings decades of experience and deep expertise to global and national efforts to combat COVID-19.
Fauci actually is turning out to be a good politician ….
Says his piece ….
But manages to throw Trump a bine every time he can chew on….
Of course ?
Up to election day?
Trump won’t fire Fauci and have him talking against unrestricted in the media for CNN. or MSNBC making 10x his government salary …
Jerry Falwell Jr. has agreed to take an indefinite leave of absence as President of Liberty University.
The Lynchburg Va. based school is considered one of the flagship Colleges of the religious Right.
Falwell has come under intense criticism for a bizarre picture of him with his zipper down and his arms around some young woman while holding a plastic cup that at least looked like a mixed drink.(Falwell insisted it was water)
The fundamentalist school ,founded by his father, frowns on drinking and anything “suggestive” such as the picture Falwell was seen in.
Falwell ,a staunch supporter of Trumps ,who has made all sorts of statements vouching for Trumps “religious” bona fides ,has previously been involved in some financial dealings with a gay hostel in Florida.Homosexuality was at one time a major issue at LU and still is not totally acceptable.
It won’t be surprising to see Falwell in some type of “rehab” shortly.
Typical of the scam that is “Evangelical Christianity”
Don’t you believe in absolution and forgiveness, Scott?
Of course they don’t come without remorse, repentance, confession, reparation and reform, as well as faith.
But no doubt president Falwell will have little difficulty in demonstrating that to those who have faith in Him.
A moral object lesson for those earnest young minds at Liberty U.
¶ For those who like really obscure trivia, an acquaintance of mine who graduated from Liberty University (on a golf scholarship) told me that the master house on campus used to belong to Sen. Carter Glass (D-Va), co-author of the Glass-Steagall Act. [My friend wrote his senior thesis on Glass-Steagall and went on into (surprise) banking.]
Update…
Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine’s on-again, off-again diagnosis is troubling public health experts, who on Friday expressed fear that the prominent Republican’s apparently erroneous positive coronavirus test a day prior will become a misleading data point for those who doubt the pandemic’s severity or, in some cases, its very existence….
More…
The loser STAYS a LOSER….
Joe Arpaio, the bellicose former Arizona sheriff whose harsh immigration tactics earned him international notoriety, narrowly lost his Republican primary as he tried to regain his old office in Maricopa County.
Voters instead backed Jerry Sheridan, Mr. Arpaio’s former chief deputy, who promised to revive many of Mr. Arpaio’s policies but without the showmanship that defined the office under Mr. Arpaio’s 24-year reign. Mr. Sheridan will face Sheriff Paul Penzone, the Democrat who trounced Mr. Arpaio four years ago, in the November general election.
In the latest count from Tuesday’s primary, announced on Friday, Mr. Sheridan had secured about 37 percent of the vote in a three-way race, compared to Mr. Arpaio’s 36 percent — a difference of 6,280 votes out of more than 420,000 cast, with only 2,385 ballots remaining to be counted.
Most political observers say Mr. Penzone is the favorite in the general election.
More….
Morning…..
Indiana Governor
http://cgpolitics.blogspot.com/2020/08/race-of-day-indiana-governor.html
Breaking ….
Trump goes around Congress with a executive list that extends jobless money, stop student loan interest, caps payroll taxes….
Post coming ….
He has essentially told Congress go home it’s his government…..
Texas: Trump vs. Biden Trafalgar Group (R)* Trump 49, Biden 43 Trump +6
Michigan: Trump vs. Biden EPIC-MRA* Biden 51, Trump 40 Biden +11
Utah: Trump vs. Biden Deseret News/Hinckley Inst.* Trump 50, Biden 31 Trump +19
RCP…
(People need to stop thinking Biden will win Texas)
More Alternate Reality shit…
Trump Wanted to Be Added to Mount Rushmore
“Since the first days after she was elected governor of South Dakota in 2018, Kristi Noem had been working to ensure that President Trump would come to Mount Rushmore for a fireworks-filled July 4 extravaganza,” the New York Times reports.
“After all, the president had told her in the Oval Office that he aspired to have his image etched on the monument. And last year, a White House aide reached out to the governor’s office with a question, according to a Republican official familiar with the conversation: What’s the process to add additional presidents to Mount Rushmore?”
Morning people….
The goings on in the US Postal Service are catching more and more attention among Democrats including those in Congress.
There are continuing reports that since some Trump contributor took the reins at USPS many old supervisors are being fired while the pace of mail delivery is slowing.
Lovejoy, the Trumper , is denying that anything intentional is going on;however, calls from Democrats for concrete assurances that mail in ballots will be efficiently processed and delivered will continue.
Who can blame them?
Trump has been for awhile loudly claiming , with no proof of course(does he ever have proof for his daily lies?) , that mail in voting is corrupt.Lately he has softened that criticism with the thoroughly believable gambit that mail in is ok if the state has a Republican Governor but not if the state has a Democratic Governor.
I mean what could be more believable then that “fair and balanced “ approach?
Trump’s fingers spreads to the Post Office?
Iowa U.S. Senate
http://cgpolitics.blogspot.com/2020/08/race-of-day-iowa-us-senate.html
Jack, Trump’s new PMG relieved or reassigned 27 career postal managers in a Friday Night Massacre.
Sunday, August 9
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Biden CBS News/YouGov Biden 49, Trump 43 Biden +6
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Biden CBS News/YouGov Biden 48, Trump 42 Biden +6
RCP…
Puerto Rico on Sunday was forced to partially suspend voting for primaries marred by a lack of ballots as officials called on the president of the U.S. territory’s elections commission to resign….
More…
Sorry, 23.
Democrats Decry “Sabotage” After “Friday Night Massacre” at Postal Service
Daniel Politi 1 day ago
Several Democrats accused the Trump administration of trying to sabotage the country’s mail system after a broad restructuring of the United States Postal Service that some have characterized as a “Friday Night Massacre.” Postmaster General Louis DeJoy moved forward with a significant reorganization of the Postal Service leadership along with a hiring freeze for leadership positions. The reorganization involves the reassignment or displacement of 23 USPS executives, including some who had been at the Postal Service for decades. Among the targets of the reorganization were the two top executives who oversee daily operations at the Postal Service.
The Postal Service said that “the new organization will align functions based on core business operations and will provide more clarity and focus on what the Postal Service does best; collect, process, move and deliver mail and packages.” But analysts say the new structure gives more power to DeJoy, a big Trump ally who has been under scrutiny lately amid delivery delays and the way that could impact the election at a time when voting by mail is expected to soar because of the pandemic.
Rep. Gerry Connolly of Virginia, a Democrat who leads the committee that oversees the postal service characterized the USPS overhaul as “sabotage.” Connolly wrote on Twitter that the overhaul is “really a Trojan Horse” and amounts to “deliberate sabotage to disrupt mail service on the eve of the election — an election that hinges on mail-in ballots.” He wasn’t alone. Sen. Elizabeth Warren linked to a story of the shakeup and wondered: “How many ways can the new Postmaster General sabotage the @USPS?” Sen. Jeff Merkley of Oregon also used the word “sabotage” to characterize the administration’s actions regarding the Postal Service. Sen. Kamala Harris also joined in on the criticism, saying that the shakeup in the Postal Service’s leadership shows how “they are trying to take down the United States Postal Service from the inside—at a time when we need it the most.”
The shakeup in the USPS leadership came mere days after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer had a closed-door meeting with DeJoy that Schumer described as “heated.” Democrats have been critical of recent cost-cutting initiatives imposed by DeJoy, a big Trump donor, at the Postal Service that they say are impacting the service and could hinder the ability of Americans to vote by mail. Several key Democrats have called on the inspector general for the Postal Service to investigate the new policies imposed by DeJoy, who is the first postmaster general in nearly two decades who was not promoted from within the Postal Service.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-decry-e2-80-9csabotage-e2-80-9d-after-e2-80-9cfriday-night-massacre-e2-80-9d-at-postal-service/ar-BB17JSwa
Breaking News:
Kamala The Ugandan Giant, aka James “Kamala” Harris, has passed away. The pro wrestling luminary was 70. He was one of the most memorable pro wrestling figures from my childhood.
I do not know what this may mean for the week in politics, but I guess I did not remember that the wrestler Kamala’s real last name was Harris.
As a child, I really did believe he was from Uganda. It was because of him I knew there was a Uganda. Nobody was asking professional wrestlers to produce birth certificates.
I think it is also safe to say that because of his wrestling career, he is the reason why so many people pronounce the California Senator’s name a certain way.
RIP James Harris
Morning people…..
I’m gonna guess that Biden let’s us knock his choice for VP by Friday in order to get a good media ‘bounce’ over the weekend going into the virtual convention next week…
I still believe it’s Harris or Rice….
And I would pick Rice…
The Biden media native up to the pick seems to be that Biden’s margin is good, but not a double digit one a double digit one anymore…
Again?
Biden MUST win with a good sized margin to shutdown Trump crying about a Biden win…
Checking Pwire there o a piece from the Frisco Cronical that calls for Harris to TURN DOWN the VP spot ….
Written by none other than Willie Brown.
What a dumb article by Brown. The Vice Presidency is what each President makes it. Trump’s fragile ego means that Mother Pence can only smile and eat shit. The previous three two term Presidents all relied on their Vice Presidents for guidance and were given important roles in the administration.
Sounds to me like Brown might not like the idea of reading stories about himself.
No one is going to care about those old stories except for right wing hypocrites who are fine with their President who cheated on his pregnant third wife with a porn star.
Here’s the relevant part of the multi-topic SF Chron column by Willie Brown (D, former Speaker of the California Assembly, former Mayor of San Francisco). Brown wants Kamala Harris to shoot for William Barr’s (formerly Eric Holder’s and RFK’s) job instead of VP. [via MSN]
Willie Brown: Kamala Harris should say no to vice presidency
“If Joe Biden offers the vice presidential slot to Sen. Kamala Harris, my advice to her would be to politely decline.
Harris is a tested and proven campaigner who will work her backside off to get Biden elected. That said, the vice presidency is not the job she should go for — asking to be considered as attorney general in a Biden administration would be more like it.
Being picked for the vice presidency is obviously a huge honor, and if Biden wins, Harris would make history by being the first woman to hold the job.
But the glory would be short-lived, and historically, the vice presidency has often ended up being a dead end. For every George H.W. Bush, who ascended from the job to the presidency, there’s an Al Gore, who never got there.
True, the vice president does have an advantage the next time the party needs a new nominee, which in Biden’s case could be four years from now. But in the meantime, the vice president has no real power and little chance to accomplish anything independent of the president.
Basically, no one takes the vice president seriously after election day. Just ask Mike Pence.
Plus, if Biden wins, the Democrats will be moving into the White House in the middle of a pandemic and economic recession. The next few years promise to be a very bumpy ride. Barack Obama and the Democrats saved the nation from economic collapse when he took office, and their reward was a blowout loss in the 2010 midterm elections.
On the other hand, the attorney general has legitimate power. From atop the Justice Department, the boss can make a real mark on everything from police reform to racial justice to prosecuting corporate misdeeds.
And the attorney general gets to name every U.S. attorney in the country. That’s power.
Plus, given the department’s current disarray under William Barr, just showing up and being halfway sane will make the new AG a hero.
Best of all, being attorney general would give Harris enough distance from the White House to still be a viable candidate for the top slot in 2024 or 2028, no matter what the state of the nation.”
He really turned himself into a pretzel on this one.
Yes DSD…..
Brown’s point is well taken…
BUT?
The VP pick would have a 4 year advantage WITH Biden….
Again….
Brown’s Op-Ed is more of a out for her if she DOES NOT get to be picked ….
Sorta a way to play things off and I’m fine with it…
No, Brown is saying she should turn it down if offered. That’s very different.
It is widely understood that Veepstake losers often get Cabinet posts. It’s a consolation prize. I think she might prefer being a Senator from California though.
I remember there being talk (when I still very young) in 1992 of George H.W. Bush picking a new running mate and making Dan Quayle Attorney General instead in order to let him gain some gravitas.
Something like this happened on “Veep” where the sitting Veep made a deal to support another candidate for a Cabinet slot, etc ,but it has never really happened.
It reminds me though that Ronald Reagan put his 1976 running-mate, Richard Schweiker in his Cabinet after 1980.
She would be doing herself , DOJ a great honor by going there….
NOT going there is something she should dismiss out of hand….
She’s probably need 60 Senate votes to be AG. If you guys get rid of Susan Collins, you may not have anyone to get Republicans to be bipartisan on the high profile Cabinet nominations.
I am sure Mitt Romney would look at her qualifications and testimony though and do the right thing.
Harris or Rice would be conformed and remember ….
After Trump?
You can have people in spots without confirmation….
I genuinely do not see Rice (or Warren) getting confirmed to any Cabinet post in the partisan era we live in.
Harris is a maybe but it might be close
I have consistently opposed filibusters for appointments.
Every appointee deserves an up or down vote.
His point is well taken? Really James?
Jack is right. No one would chose to wait to be picked as Attorney General if they had the Vice Presidency handed to them. Why would they?
The Vice Presidency stopped being a “bucket of warm spit” when Clinton picked Al Gore, and if anyone knows what a Vice President can do it is certainly Joe Biden.
I agree with the importance of the office and so Biden should pick Rice as Eugene Robertson said in his piece….
Harris can of course handle the position
No one in this day and age turns down the Vice Presidency.
As Keith noted it hasn’t been a ticket to nowhere for ages now.
The last time I recall a VP choice turning down a spot on the ticket was in 1996 when (supposedly) Bill Bennett declined Bob Dole’s offer.
Before that you probably have to go back to 1972 when McGovern had to go with the 7th or so name on his list for replacing Tom Eagleton on the Democratic ticket.
In her divorce filing, Joni Ernst said she turned down an offer for Trump to be his running-mate. Perhaps she turned down consideration though. I think it is unlikely she was ever actually offered the gig.
McCain turned down John Kerry in 2004.
I don’t think an offer was ever on the table between Trump and Ernst or Kerry and McCain.
In both cases they removed themselves from consideration. I think Colin Powell did that too in 2000.
I’m talking about someone actually being offered the position and turning it down. I think that’s pretty rare. Taking yourself out of consideration because of personal issues or because it could hurt your political future (as I imagine the Ernst and McCain situations were respectively) is a different matter.
I believe Bob Woodward recounted that Kerry actually asked McCain, somewhat informally.
OK I’ll take Woodward’s word for it.
And while it could have been a ticket to make history it would have killed McCain’s chances to run for President again either way.
If he won he’d have been stuck as VP–if he lost the GOP would never have nominated him in 2008.
Well, John McCain never had any intention of voting for John Kerry, despite a friendly relationship. He knew better and campaigned very hard for GWB’s reelection.
Of course in 2008, McCain wanted to offer it to Lieberman but was talked out of out by his advisors, perhaps including Lieberman himself.
A bunch of Democrats did turn down Selina Meyer in Veep.
She was prepared to offer it to Democrat Jonah Ryan as a last option.
You would think these pretend politicians could have envisioned she would be driven from office in disgrace or something and they would have become President.
Marcy Kaptur turned down Ross Perot. She wasn’t the only one though.
Last cycle, there was a story that Kasich said he was offered the VP slot in a conversation between his camp and Trump Jr.
Apparently, Kasich was told he could basically run policy wise while DJT would simply be in charge of “making America great.”
Yeah third parties are a whole other ball of wax.
In Perot’s case Stockdale never wanted the VP spot to be permanent, he only let himself be named to get on the ticket the ballot. But after Perot dropped out then dropped back in again only a month before the election he was stuck with the job.
Yes Stockdale…
In that VP debate famed for his intro….
“Who am I, what am I doing here?”
Yeah as funny as Phil Hartman’s impersonation of him was on SNL I always felt a little bad for Stockdale. The man was a war hero and that’s what he’s remembered for.
Gridlock!
Ping Pong match!
Stockdale served briefly as President of The Citadel,the military college in Charleston.
He tried to reform some of the hazing and the alumni forced him out.
Yes he was a decent man ,who ,as you point out ,will be remembered for his military exploits .
Harris has been ,in effect ,running for VP for awhile now .
To suggest that after all this she would tell Biden “No thank you sir but how about appointing me AG if you win.”
Is beyond stupid.
We will never heard the conversation, but I think we just know that Biden is going to formally ask this of whomever he decides to swipe left on in a very awkward sort of way.
“Look, here’s the deal. I am literally serious. I want you to be my partner, I mean by number two, I mean my partner in government. Jill is my partner of course. I am totally serious. I want to win with you and run with you. My word as a Biden. I am literally not making this up. What do you say?”
McCain still wanted to run for President himself.
I don’t think Kerry thought he would accept.
Of course most people believe that JFKs offer to LBJ was perfunctory too.
LBJ though said yes.
Story has been that Obama offered his rivals Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden State and the VP, with Biden picking VP (after being assured that he would be the last person to leave the room) and Clinton getting State.
Gov. Earl Warren (Gov. Dewey’s running mate in 1948) was, it has been said or written, was nominated Chief Justice in 1953 in exchange for staying out of Ike’s way to the GOP nomination in 1952.
Thank You CGi knew there had to someone who turned down the VP spot….
Gideon leads Collins in Mane 48-41 according to a new poll from OH Predictive Insights.
Poor poor Susan. She must be so “concerned”
I just sent Sara another donation.
Rank choice voting will do Collins in.
I know u don’t feel sorry for Collins …
It is time for some state Attorney General to file a lawsuit to disband the St. Louis Cardinals. They are going to ruin this MLB season for all kinds of people.
By the way, the *one* MLB team to not have a positive Covid-19 test yet are the Ricketts Family owned Chicago Cubs.
The MLB season will be canceled in the next couple of weeks.
I hope not. There’s not really a reason to. It’s a Cardinals problem, not an MLB problem.
Just have them forfeit their season.
Busy day for the dog….
No posts till tonite…
Good thing today isnt Election Day!
Well, the one thing about Election Day that we can be reasonably certain of is that on Election Night we still won’t know. Give the poor dog a break.
DSD?
I disagree….
I could be COMPLETELY WRONG but I think we’ll know who won the Presidential election by 12 midnight ….
If not?
It will not be good for Biden….
It will be past his bedtime.
Why NOT CG?
Joe Biden would be Victorious‼️😁
On the MLB?
They are gonna do everything within their power to finish the abbreviated season …
While the twitter universe has been talking about dropping poll numbers ?
Daily polls STILL favor Biden and Democrats
Some with smaller margins but leads nevertheless….
Quietly?
The Trump admin is trying to cancel Obama Admin EPA dukes and regulations on water and energy ….
It has accelerated in the recent months adding to the things a Biden Admin will have to reinstate …
In other words (to their various wealthy supporters), Rape America Now !! (while the going is good).
Yup….
Biden Leads In Arizona
A new OH Predictive Insights poll in Arizona shows Joe Biden leading Donald Trump in the presidential race, 49% to 45%.
Morning….
Russia heads the morning news
Putin has approved a virus vaccine
Post coming later….
Biden lets us know today?
More to come here at the PDog
Hmmmmmmm?
Susan Rice has NOT been listed as a speaker at the Democratic Convention…..
she has also NOT been featured with Biden on her fundraising….
But has done several….
Does this mean she appears WITH Biden as the choice or she’s out?
We’ll know shortly …
Hmmmmmmm?
Susan Rice has NOT been listed as a speaker at the Democratic Convention…..
she has also NOT been featured with Biden on her fundraising….
But has done several….
Does this mean she appears WITH Biden as the choice or she’s out?m
I continue to think she’s the right choice..
We’ll know shortly …
I’m not sure that Susan Rice would be scheduled as a speaker even if she weren’t in consideration for VP. She’s not known as a great orator or campaigner. And if she is picked it will not be due to those skills.
Kansas U.S. Senate
http://cgpolitics.blogspot.com/2020/08/race-of-day-kansas-us-senate.html
I’ve seen nothing in the news about that Commission Trump created after his election chaired by Kobach and Pence to “investigate” voting fraud.
With Trump lying daily (as well as other Republicans) about all the voting fraud that is supposedly rampant in the country ,it’s useful to remember this boondoggle from 2017-18.
The so called “investigation” revealed nothing except idiotic talk from Trump and wild unsubstantiated claims from Kobach.
Nothing.Zero,Zilch.
Even Kobach made claims that there were like 5000 “fraudulent “ votes cast in the US .He couldn’t even prove that and,even assuming that’s true.
Big damn deal.
The Republicans have been in this kick for years and generally are reduced to babble about events of sixty years ago for their “proof.”
More Lies ,emblematic of this Republican Administration.
Oh the “commission?
It was quietly disbanded.
Keller @ Large: What To Watch For In Markey-Kennedy Debate
By Jon Keller
WBZ-TV – CBS Boston
BOSTON (CBS) – Massachusetts Senator Ed Markey and Rep. Joe Kennedy will debate Tuesday at 7 p.m. on WBZ-TV. Political analyst Jon Keller will moderate.
Here’s what Jon says you should watch for:
Popcorn? Check.
Cold beverages? Check.
Twitter handle set? #wbzdebate, check.
You’re ready for Tuesday night’s climactic Massachusetts Senate Democratic primary showdown between incumbent Sen. Ed Markey and challenger Rep. Joe Kennedy. But what are you likely to see?
For starters, look for both candidates to be on offense.
Recent polling pegs the race as a tossup, as both men have done a good job of consolidating their core support. But with all the unexpected complications of the pandemic – no large rallies, no flesh-pressing (beyond some awkward elbow-bumping), and little opportunity to go door-to-door without scaring the daylights out of people – it seems likely there is a decisive pool of voters who haven’t been reached and may just now be starting to focus on the race.
At this moment of high anxiety and despair with the status quo, neither candidate can afford to be on the defensive tonight as their opponent shreds their record.
Kennedy has upped the ante in the past week with a web ad mocking Markey’s regular-guy-from-Malden TV spots and accusing him of supporting telecommunications deregulation policies that cost local blue-collar jobs. And Markey had to awkwardly apologize for his handling of a long-ago meeting with the family of slain Easton resident DJ Henry, a black man killed by police under very questionable circumstances.
Kennedy will surely press those lines of attack. And I fully expect Markey, who has only sporadically counterattacked in previous debates after coming on strong in the first one back in February, to bark back hard.
A recent Markey web ad mocking Kennedy for downplaying the political prospects of Medicare for All is an example of how the incumbent wants to portray his much-younger rival – as a callow kid who lacks the political chops to get anything done. Markey has spent more time than he wanted to fending off Kennedy’s argument that it’s time for a change, and his symbolic efforts to deflect the charge of being out of touch – shooting hoops in his Nikes, and boasting of his large Twitter following – have seemed anemic. Tonight, look for him to tout his backing by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and his support from remnants of the Bernie Sanders base as more tangible signs of hipness, while citing Kennedy’s support from trade unions as a sign that his opponent is the one beholden to old ways of doing business.
You never know what candidates will do in a live TV debate until they do it, although with just one last debate remaining after tonight, the time to step up is now. But I can promise you one thing – tonight’s format won’t get in their way.
There will be no formal opening or closing statements. Each candidate will be given one minute to respond to the same question, drawn from a list that includes submissions from voters. After they’ve each had their turn, it’s showtime, open periods of debate in which they can question one another, refer back to previous remarks, move into other topics, pretty much anything they want as long as it’s coherent, relevant and orderly.
These will continue until the exchange is played out; then we move on to another question. There are just three inviolable rules: no filibustering, no talking over one another, and total obedience to the moderator’s directions.
Otherwise, they might enter my cocoon of horror. Wisely, no one has ever risked it.
JON KELLER
Jon Keller is Political Analyst for WBZ-TV News.
Kamala Harris is the VP choice
Ok …..
That IS CONFIRMED
GOOD FOR HER AND BIDEN
He took the political choice ….
Jared Halpern
The 2020 Democratic ticket: Biden-Harris
I’m not particularly happy.
What? Uninspired? Uninspiring?
She’s a great lady!
California rules!
Only twelve more weeks until Election Day!
It is always good when milestones happen and Americans can look and see what is possible in this country, Congratulations to Senator Harris.
Obviously, I do not at all support much of what she and Joe Biden would bring to America policy-wise, but I will be rooting for them to win this one election, because Donald Trump is so unworthy and his continuance in office, one day more than necessary, will continue to harm our culture and the lives of Americans.
The people will speak, and yes I will speak by voting, but for neither major option, and then the burden of governance will be on those who win.
The particular milestones because people tend to like to note things-
First woman of color on a ticket
First Asian-American on a ticket
First Caribbean-American on a ticket
First person on a ticket in an interracial marriage
I suppose it is worth nothing that in the early 1800s, Martin Van Buren’s Vice President openly lived with and had children with a black woman, but they were not legally married.
Also, this is not a criticism, and I doubt it will even be mentioned in the campaign, but I cannot remember the last person who was on a ticket who did not have at least one child.
Kentucky U.S Senate
http://cgpolitics.blogspot.com/2020/08/race-of-day-kentucky-us-senate.html
https://m.facebook.com/thelincolnproject.us/videos/regret/2501080620182535/