Joe Biden’s lead in EVERY poll for South Carolina up to now has Barack Obama Vice President has been in the double digits…
Still is…
But as usual?
The closer the actual vote comes?
The margins close…
The NY Times has a pice that points to gains by Tom Steyer in the Biden firewall state….
And drags out negatives on Biden….
As in anyplace?
The black vote isn’t monolithic …
But Joe Biden still has most of it….
“Up to now, we haven’t heard from the most committed constituency of the Democratic Party, the African-American community,” Mr. Biden told about 200 enthusiastic supporters, many of them black. He added: “99.9 percent. That’s the percentage of African-American voters that have not yet had a chance to vote in America.”
The ability to mobilize black support in South Carolina, which holds its primary on Feb. 29, and across the South has long been the foundation of Mr. Biden’s candidacy — a presumed advantage that would highlight his capacity to forge a diverse coalition to take down President Trump.
Yet as Mr. Biden looks to black voters to resurrect his candidacy after defeats in both Iowa and New Hampshire, cracks have appeared in that support, in some polls and among influential local and national Democrats, who are saying out loud what many have privately believed all along: that he was a safe, familiar political harbor for them as much as an object of affection.
While Mr. Biden remains the favorite among many state party leaders, several South Carolina Democrats say that another candidate, Tom Steyer, has become a significant factor in the primary race here. Mr. Steyer, a billionaire from California, has been aggressively courting black voters, spending heavily on advertising and lavishing money on businesses across the state.
Political advantages that once seemed a formality for Mr. Biden’s campaign — like the endorsement of the state’s most powerful Democrat, Representative James E. Clyburn — are now uncertain; two people familiar with Mr. Clyburn’s thinking say he is increasingly worried about endorsing a candidate who is not guaranteed to win the state.
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“Let’s be honest; he was the vice president under the first African-American president so his early name recognition was really high and that lifted his numbers,” said John King, a state lawmaker who recently endorsed Mr. Steyer.
The heightened stakes have made other challenges more apparent, including the sometimes awkward fit between Mr. Biden and a new generation of young, black elected officials who are sweeping the South. Compared with Mr. Clyburn’s generation, this group is less moved by arguments of deference and the chummy collegiality of beltway politics. Instead, they view themselves as ambitious insurgents….
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Simple,
Biden either wins SC or he’s finished.
Yup AGAIN Jack….
He needs a win in Nevada ALSO….
No he can stand a second or third in a Caucus State.
His argument has always been that he’s the most popular candidate among Blacks and that they will come out and vote for him.
The S.C. primary vote will be overwhelmingly Black voters maybe as much as 75% .
If he can’t win in S.C. it’s unlikely he can win anywhere.
However if his showing in Nevada is as abysmal as it was in New Hampshire?
It’s unlikely he will win S.C. anyway.
Next two weeks should actually give us a picture of how things will be for Democrats…
Gonna be more drop outs coming also …
Where will the dropouts support come back to?
I don’t see Biden winning anywhere at this point, but if the message is that the guy simple cannot get white voters, not even senior citizen white voters or working-class white voters, that all speaks very poorly to his ability to win swing voters in November.
It is widely assumed that *whomever* is nominated will do very well with African-Americans in the general election. I think black voters are more strategic than some may be giving them credit for. Biden just does not look like a comfortable bet for the general election anymore.
(which raises the big question.. did Trumpland cause that with Ukraine or did they just simply waste their time worrying about Biden and got their guy impeached for nothing,,,)
Of course u don’t CG….
Still looking for Sanders, eh?
He’s not going to win Nevada.
I don’t think he will either.
in your write up, you say that Biden has “most” of the black vote – yet the latest polls Show he only has 27% of the black vote.
That’s not “most”. Not even close! We’re on To your games James!
Who has more Z?
In retrospect, my reply to you was foolish – but not for the reason you think.
Here’s the today’s Biden is in trouble piece from Politico ….
…’No one denies the state has an affinity for the former vice president to Barack Obama. Biden boasts endorsements from nearly 200 black South Carolina community figures and state and national legislators, a testament to his decades-long relationships with many leaders here. And he’s led in every single public poll in the state over the past year.
But his advantage has gradually eroded’…
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The Politico piece is correct of course.
Then again, it probably never was realistic to believe that Biden could “own” S.C. as you hyperbolically claimed a few weeks ago.
Biden is still in the lead here but not by a great deal.
The problem for him, of course, is ,because of the big buildup as to how he was going to sweep to victory here, a narrow victory will not be greeted with anything other than ,”well,at least he survived,” attitude.
If he loses ?His campaign is effectively over.
I said here that his lead would drop and that ALWAYS happens with politicians coming out of the gate will BIG leads…
He STILL ‘owns’ the state by your and EVERY political pice about the SC primary 2 weeks away…
His lead in ur state is STILL in the double digits…
AND?
Just about EVERY sentence about Joe Biden currently has a NEGITIVE in it …
Just another hill for him to climb…
So far ?
The ole’ timer is STILL climbing….
U probably should skip reading my Bernie Sanders support is NOT as wide as the media would lead one to believe… post Jack….
Why would I not read it?
Just messing with ya….
It’s a good sobering look at the actual Sanders campaign vs media perceptions
Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) says in a new interview that she is not counting former Vice President Joe Biden out of the Democratic presidential race after two disappointing finishes in Iowa and New Hampshire.
“I think every one of our candidates … would be a better president than the current occupant of the White House,” Pelosi, who has not endorsed any of the 2020 contenders, said in an interview on CNN that aired Saturday.
“Frankly, with all the respect in the world for Iowa and New Hampshire, I’m not counting Joe Biden out,” she added. “There are still race[s] ahead that are much more representative of the country.”
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your definition of “own” and mine are quite different.
To say he is “leading” today doesn’t mean anything as to the actual result two weeks from now as anyone with any sense would understand.
As to “the ol time is still climbing?”Another one of your well known indecipherable comments .
True THAT Jack!
Sorry on the ‘ok’ time,..
It should read ole timer is climber which refers to Biden still moving along holding his own in the next two contests and the Super Tuesday states on the polls and apparent support…
Right now, the *only* candidate who looks like he finding success putting together a coalition that includes both “pro-business” types and significant numbers of African-Americans is Bloomberg.
At the end of the day it could be a coalition like that vs. all the Woke white leftists on Twitter backing Sanders.
There are strong black anti-Bloomberg currents flowing….
I might be completely wrong here …
But absent Biden?
Democrats COULD very well have a complete FUCKUP and hand Trump his second term on a platter ….
Is Bernie gonna turn out to be another Ralph Nadler like problem for Democrats?
“Corporate Democrats: Unsafe At Any Speed”
With Biden too….
Biden IS STILL ahead in the double figures in SC….
Bloomberg is not..,
But Money Mike is doing good in Arkansas with Democrats?
Where is this data showing him ahead by double digits in SC? Has there been a post NH poll?
The most recent SC poll I saw mentioned had him ahead by 5 and it was perhaps even before Iowa.
Not what Joe Biden hoped for….
Nevada’s powerful Culinary Workers Union will not endorse in the presidential primary, while criticizing Bernie Sanders’ signature Medicare for All proposal.
In declining to pick a candidate — but calling for “choices” in health care — the union created an opening for Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar, two moderate Democrats with little demonstrated support in the state.
And it was a further setback for Joe Biden, who has been desperate to reassert himself after two demoralizing performances in Iowa and New Hampshire….
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There’s still always Siegfried and/or Roy…. or maybe Montecore.
They not endorsing anyone is bad for Biden and Warren, and thus by effect, good for Sanders.
But just how much will they push their members to vote against Sanders?
There could be quite a muddle at the top when the vote comes in…. and the scenes on tv might look more chaotic than Iowa. The NV GOP Caucus four years ago was a clown show with people wearing Trump gear actively running things and not even trying to hide instances of cheating.
Biden on 13 minute conference call to supporters:
“I’ll be damned if we are going to lose this nomination to Donald Trump.”
That part he might not have to worry about.
Trump labelled Bloomberg today a “tiny version of Jeb Bush.”
I wish! Oh, how I wish he were..
Unlike others?
Bloomberg isn’t gonna worry about Trump name calling…
He can out spend the guy 10-1….
That’s completely wrong. Jeb fought back against Trump, alone at first, from the first debate. He spent millions of dollars in negative ads against him. And of course he ruled out supporting him very early on.
I don’t. Bloomberg hit back–hard. Jeb, like all the Republicans, was too afraid of the conservative base that built up the likes of Trump for decades.
Good News for Biden …
Niles Frances
NEW @wsbtv/ Landmark Communications poll of the Democratic presidential primary in Georgia
Biden: 32.1%
Sanders: 14.2%
Bloomberg: 14%
Buttigieg: 4.9%
Warren: 3.7%
Klobuchar: 3%
Steyer: 1.5%
Gabbard: 0.8%
UNDECIDED: 25.8%
Georgia’s primary is on March 24. #gapol