In another example of Donald Trimp being able to co-op any investigation into his actions on a federal level?
Hew actions have come under the preview in New York….
So far?
New York has closed a college he ran and his foundation and got financial settlements inn both…
With the feds not pursuing anything in the Stormy Daniels case?
New York DA Vance can go ahead with a possible monewty laundering case against Trump that Michael Cohen has sung about….
In the end?
Trump’s home state of New York seems to be able to do what Congress and the Justice Dept. can’t….(oh and NY also could get around the Trump no taxes info either)….
“State prosecutors in Manhattan subpoenaed President Trump’s family business on Thursday, reviving an investigation into the company’s role in hush-money payments made during the 2016 presidential campaign,” the New York Times reports.
“The subpoena, issued by the Manhattan district attorney’s office, demanded the Trump Organization provide documents related to money that had been used to buy the silence of Stormy Daniels, a pornographic film actress who said she had an affair with Mr. Trump.”
Wall Street Journal: “The subpoenas come weeks after the federal probe into the hush-money payments, run by the Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office, appeared to close without any indictments of Trump Organization executives.”
But CG?
Piece by piece, as indicated in THIS post?
NYC and NYS prosocutor’s ARE talking bits and piece’s out of his hide…..
NYC doesn’t have prosecutors. They work for the state.
And if he is ever charged by the state, as opposed to by the Feds, that is definitely a time I think that public opinion might be negative against the action.
The Manhattan DA is elected by the residents of THAT borough on NYC CG….
He enforces NYC and NYS laws…..
Again…
My opinion is that NOBODY will move to actually put a retired Presidential level political in jail in this country….
No, you simply do not understand the facts of basic judicial politics 101. I don’t have the patience to explain it to you either.
The DA of Manhattan is elected by the residents of the Borough, (just like the Cook County States’ Attorney is), but they are a part of state government, elected via a specific jurisdiction, not city government.
When they say “The People of New York vs..” , they mean the people of the state.
If I am wrong, our attorney friend jack can correct the record in his usual Saturday morning visit.
NO CG…
You don’t understand….
The Manhattan DA is elected within his boro….
He IS a NYC politican…
He gets his budget from the NYC Mayor deBlasio….
NOT from the Governor of the state….
He enforces NYS and NYC laws…
He is NOT a NYS employee….
…
The New York County District Attorney is the elected district attorney for New York County (Manhattan), New York. The office is responsible for the prosecution of violations of New York state laws. (Federal law violations in Manhattan are prosecuted by the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York.) The current district attorney is Cyrus Vance Jr….
Link….
The Office ‘s links are with the NYC Government …
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_County_District_Attorney
It clearly says “state laws,” While composed of Manhattan, the district is actually “New York County.” New York State is divided into “districts” and New York County (which has many people) is one of those districts.
Yes, everyone who lives there lives in NYC. Irrelevant.
The elected official is elected by the voters of a County (which in this case is smaller than a city, very unusual elsewhere in the country.)
But the entity of government in which this court sits is the State Government. New York City has five districts (each borough, which is also a county).
This is a different entity of government:
http://www.nycourts.gov/courts/nyc/criminal/
“Filing Charges
If the District Attorney’s Office decides to file charges against a suspect, the charges will be presented in front of a judge for an arraignment.
Please note that although the District Attorney’s Office will handle your case, they prosecute on behalf of the*** State of New York**** in Criminal Court or Supreme Court, not on behalf of individuals.”
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/nypd/services/victim-services/criminal-justice-process.page
CG?
Nice try….
No cigar…
There is a DA for EACH Boro….
I understand your effort…
But you are incorrect….
The Manhattan DA is New York City Government enforcing NYC and NYS law….
This statement by u is incorrect….
‘NYC doesn’t have prosecutors. They work for the state.’
It’s a difficult distinction (at which I’m no expert), but what I know is this:
Each of the five Boroughs* elects exactly one borough-wide non-judicial officer, the Borough President.
*[Manhattan, the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens & Staten Island]
Each of the five corresponding counties* elects exactly one county-wide non-judicial officer, the District Attorney.
*[New York, Bronx, Kings, Queens & Staten Island (formerly Richmond)]
Neither the Mayor, the Borough President nor the City Council has any authority over the DA.
And if the New York state constitution is like those of other states, I would expect a county’s D.A. to answer, besides to the people of his or her own county, to the Attorney-General of the State of New York, rather than to the Governor (who is elected separately from the Atty-Gen.).
Again guys…..
The Borough DA’s get their money from the NEW YORK CITY Mayor’s budget….
You reach their offices thru the NYC system…
The have NOTHING to do with the Governor or the Lt Gov….
They ARE NYC political animals…
As in any state a city elected political office holder may be removed from office for ‘cause’….
But absent THAT?
The DA is Manhattan’s top criminal lawyer
I’ll add this
The NYS lawmakers have passed a law that that the state AG may review and step in to assume any police misconduct case…
THAT has NOT happened…
DA’s get their cases from ANY law enforcement charges originating in their boro….
Jack is in SC…
NOT NYC…
But his county DA system should operate pretty much the same way….
CG is incorrect…
And that’s fine
It’s how we all learn…
This seems to be a controversy ove nothing.
DSDs analysis is correct in my view.
Usually, in most states ,DAs are constitutionally under the “supervision of the State AG.In reality ,however, they operate independently and prosecute all crimes against the State that occur within their jurisdiction .
CG is correct in that violations of state law are fashioned as the State Of (blank) vs. (Defendant).
I’m unsure exactly what is in dispute here or what difference it makes?
Could the DA proffer a charge against Trump for violating New York State law?Im sure he could.Would he?A whole separate issue.
Prosecutors ,at any level, except in cases of heinous crimes, generally evaluate a case as to the odds of procuring a conviction.Thousands of cases are never prosecuted, not because the Prosecutor doesn’t believe a crime may have been committed, but because ,due to the difficulty of proving such beyond a reasonable doubt ,the likely (or actual) makeup of the jury ,community interest etc.
Just saying a crime has been committed ;therefore, it will be prosecuted ……ignores the simple reality that prosecuting resources are finite and all sorts of other matters enter into a final decision.
NYC DA’s do NOT work under the supervision of the AG….
The NYS AG handle’s mostly civil prosecutions….
Criminal cases in the Boro’s are handled by the DA’s….
The usual you mention does NOT happen in NYS….
I pointed out from the jump that ANY DA in any county in NYS primarily use NYS law…
They also handle local criminal or civil cases….
Loccal town or cities may in fact handle their own civil cases…
Thank you for your explication on HOW cases are viewed from the DA’s position…
Since they are elected…
There is also a political side to their jobs…
It IS a controversy over nothing….
The Manhattan DA IS a NYC animal that enforces mostly NYS law within the boro or county of Manhattan….
The issue here is that james is a stubborn, rude person, who thinks he knows far more than he actually does.
What was stated was that a DA enforces State law. Somehow, james takes that a a license to pretend to have superiority over others, even as he concedes the point.
No wonder nobody new wants to comment here. It’s amazing I even bothered to come back.
Yea CG when I’m right….
I’m right….
Your original view was that the DA is a state official…
THAT is NOT correct…
I live here…
I KNOW what I’m talking about…
I have given you proof….
It’s alright if u don’t get the way things actually work….
And yes ….
I agree I AN stubborn …I have company here one that
But I have NEVER indicated that I am always Right, nor do I know EVERYTHING…
I admit I made a mistake’s here more than others, except DSD….
I often ask DSD and Jack for their help in explaining things….
Now I’m gonna stop on the personal stuff….
Bull Shit CG….
You KNOW what happened to William Jefferson Clinton….
Give us a break, eh?