Donald Trump found a new target for a “lock her up”—and yes, it’s still “her.” He and his followers directed the chant not at longtime target Hillary Clinton but at Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) at an Iowa rally Tuesday night.
Trump’s accusation that Feinstein leaked Dr. Christine Blasey Ford’s letter accusing Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault prompted the descent into “lock her up,” with Trump saying that Feinstein “100 percent” leaked the letter, only to backtrack, bully-style: “I don’t want to get sued, so 99 percent.” Feinstein has denied that she leaked the letter and the reporter who initially reported on Ford’s allegations has said the information didn’t come from Feinstein or her office. But of course Trump wants a villain and he wants it to be a woman. His supporters will still happily chant “lock her up” about Hillary Clinton—they’ve done so in recent weeks, despite the ongoing lack of any reason to lock Clinton up—but they’re happy to direct the attack at another woman.
Mind you, Trump’s former campaign chair and personal lawyer and national security adviser have pleaded guilty to crimes and two of his big congressional supporters—all men—are under indictment, but somehow it’s always “lock her up.” Even Trump’s male political opponents don’t come in for this treatment like the women do. How mysterious.
Trump pronounced the senior Senator from California as “Fein-steen”. Tell me that wasn’t an anti Semitic dig in super gentle Iowa.
Will Republicans do anything about it? Nope.
Super Gentile
“Fein-steen” and “Fein-stine” are both Jewish sounding and are both legitimate pronunciations of the name. Gentile people don’t really know the difference. She clearly has had a preference for “Fein-stine.”
Maybe he doesn’t know how she pronounces it. The man is not exactly a genius. If anything, I would associate an emphasis on “stine” to be more potentially sinister. Bruce Spring”steen” is not Jewish.
He KNEW what he was doing
Just like his words about Warren , Obama and others
You need to back off Hillary…
I don’t need to back off Hillary. She is a public figure advocating civil unrest until she gets an election result she likes. That is disgraceful.
This bit about Trump and how he pronounced a name is pretty weak, It takes away from all the legitimate things there are to criticize Trump on by pointing on something without knowing what he was thinking. Focusing on things like that just works to his advantage in the larger picture.
It is very possible he doesn’t know or remember how she pronounces her name. Since she is a Senator he should, but Trump may have mental issues. I am sure all of us have met a Goldstein and not known which version they prefer.
Calling someone Steen instead of Stein is not trying to make them sound “more Jewish.” If anything, it would be the other way around.
So are you doing what the guys have said about you?
Using DIFFERNT standards for different party members?
You know ur history
You know the things Trump has said DELIBERITYY to try to beat down people ….
We had a power outage here.. must be the hurricane.
I was trying to say that there is a big difference between Trump being a “bully” and using some weak, non-existent evidence to claim for certain he was trying to pronounce a name a certain way for bigoted reasons. As a certified Jewish person myself, I have pointed out how the way he did that would not even make sense.
He probably doesn’t know or remember how DiFi pronounces her name. Trump has referred to his own wife as “Melanie” on social media.
So you’re saying he’s stupid, not anti Semitic. Either way he is the undisputed head of the GOP.
He’s not bright and he’s a bigot in general. I don’t think anti-Semitism is the specific root of his bigotry. He’s had many Jewish influences on his life going back to when he was young. Bigotry is bigotry and always wrong.
And I have disputed him from Day 1 and will continue to do so.
and not knowing exactly how you would pronounce your last name (don’t say it here), doesn’t mean I hate Germans either.
CG?
The man does it DELIBERATELY and repeatedly…
But he IS crafty at trying to beatdown people for his OWN gain and will use ANYTHING to get his was and has admitted outlaid in the pass that this is his way…..
and he has is someone who has been confused on the name of his current wife too.
You guys need to learn how to choose your battles more wisely,
This piece from 1983 backs up my theory that “steen” is an Americanized version of “stine”
https://www.nytimes.com/1983/12/25/magazine/on-language-stine-or-steen.html
james you repeatedly misspell/mistype every single word under the sun.
Is it intentional or might there be other issues causing that to happen? I would bet on the latter, including the more than one occasion when you typed the full and complete “n-word” in place of something else and did not even realize you did it.
I correct mispillings when they are pointed out to me
COME ON CG!
He does it ON PIRPOSE…
Of course it was Scott, our favorite Trump apologist notwithstanding, but Diane doesn’t mind since Trump just re-elected her.
Even our Republican President, in all his fat white boy driven ignorance, knows how to correctly pronounce California’s Senior Senator’s name.
Keith will be voting for de Leon (unless he changed his mind) and so will a lot of Republicans in California, for no other reason than to punish Feinstein.
Trump should Tweet an endorsement of de Leon. It would be interesting to see all the reactions
If anybody wanted to make her sound more ethnic, they would have emphasized the “stine” from the surname she uses (that of her late second husband) or tried to make a comparison to Franken-stine.
Pat Buchanan would have done the dog whistle correctly. If that is what Trump was trying to do, he messed it up.
Deliberately pronouncing someone’s name wrong is usually an attempt to make them seem “other”.
We can go back and forth in which pronouciation “sounds more Jewish”–or we can see the forest in front of us that he was encouraging a bunch of yokels to lock up someone they deem somehow less American.
We don’t know that he deliberately mispronounced her name. If someone is anti-Trump, they should focus on the plethora of things that are known for certain about Trump and the provable false things he says. This is just being petty.
Anybody in America, who would care for negative reasons that Feinstein is Jewish, already knows she is, whether they know how the last name is pronounced or not.
So now we are comparing Trump to Buchanan, the only accurate thing you written in weeks Corey.
Two things and then I have work to do:
One, per George Will, I will be voting for the Democratic Candidate here in California, our ballots arrived yesterday. Except in one case where I will vote for an ex-Republican for Insurance Commissioner, but he denounced Trump years ago, and never, to my knowledge defended any of his policies.
Two: Of course Trump was making an anti-Semitic jab at our Senator’s last name to an auditorium filled with racist deplorables. It was a two-fer for him, he got to beat up on a woman and a Jew. Appalling how someone could make excuses for those comments. But, then again, that same person dismissed Billy Graham’s anti-Semitic conversation with Richard Nixon, the one where Billy agreed with Nixon that something needed to be done about those Jews.
This shit has been going on for years, and the Shanda has been excusing it for years.
When will they ever learn.
Have a great day everyone!
Glad you are voting for Steve Poizner. I will be doing the same. (will someone pronounce his name as Posner or Pozner?)
I take it Keith is still voting for de Leon over Feinstein. Up until a few weeks ago, if I lived there, I probably would have voted for Feinstein just to stop the more liberal de Leon, but now I would vote for de Leon just to spite Feinstein and I think a whole lot of Republicans probably will as well.
Keith also both messed up the spelling and definition of “schanda.” A Gentile like him should be more cautious.
If Trump would have referred to the author Carl Bern”steen” as Carl Bern”stein”, there would be a much better case as to intent.
Where is Scott’s source for this mispronunciation of Feinstein anyway? I am not seeing it, even on his usual PoliticalWire source.
Google the video of last night’s rally and listen with your own ears. There have been no stories on this.
This is an observation I’m making completely on my own.
A. I don’t want to hear his rallies
B. I don’t think they would want me to listening to his rallies at work
You are free to form your own observations, but I am telling you my observation as a Jewish-American (who does not like Trump at all despite what you will claim), that if anything he was making her name sound *less* Jewish.
I am mindful now that there have been stories in the past of people who have used Carl Berstein’s last name in the opposite direction and they were accused of trying to emphasize his religious background for bigoted purposes.
Lefty partisans actually watch his rallies?
Really? I can see somebody forcing themselves to endure a SOTU or even a convention speech (as I have done for Presidents I did not like in the past, and now Trump), but a MAGA rally?
What kind of masochist would do that?
I watched a recap of it on the morning news.
What did you think Scott?
I watched some of these hatefests(that’s what they really are) back in the campaign,confident that the American people wouldn’t stoop this low.
I was wrong.
Yeah a bunch of bitter assholes who claim to love America more than anyone–but hate most Americans who aren’t just like them.
I would, if I lived in California I mean.. and I’m glad I don’t
Shanda (Jewish) shame; disgrace. A shanda is a humiliation and embarrassment.
I would say that supporting Donald Trump’s policies is a Shanda, a terrible Shanda.
I see we continue to play word games over “support” for our Republican President. It is impossible to support everything the man does in terms of policy and support those Republicans who enable those policies, and then claim you don’t support Donald J. Trump.
George Will and other conservatives have urged their fellow conservatives to elect Democrats to Congress to stop Donald Trump. Will our friend Corey join us? A vote for a Republican running for federal office this November is a vote to affirm everything the Trump Administration has been doing for the last 20 months.
I actually went back to watch Trump mispronounce Senator Feinstein’s name, and then hear the crowd chant lock her up. He likes to beat up on women, like when he attacked Dr. Ford (a sexual assault victim), and the crowd eats it up. Or tonight when he attacked Hillary Clinton again, and the crowd went wild. His twist on the Senator’s name was just a little anti-Semitic play on words. Sorry, this man has been next to Senator Feinstein any number of times at meetings (where, of course, she got the best of him). He knows how to pronounce her name.
So, it seems odd to me that someone who dislikes Trump so very much would go out of their way to continually defend him?
As far as California is concerned, I can only suggest to people who make critical comments about the State that they visit here. Sixth largest economy in the world, the bread basket of the Nation, great food, wine, technology, and movies. What could be wrong? Too many Democrats? There will be more next month.
Although Leonard Bernstein definitely preferred BERN (or BAIRN) STINE (I know largely because my brother was fortunate enough and accomplished enough to play in a Tanglewood summer youth orchestra conducted by Mr Bernstein), his name was and is pronounced both ways all the time by all kinds of people without (so far as I can tell) any racial, religious or national implications.