The Woodward book has TONS of quotes and inside looks at who Donald J. Trump IS uncensored….
It is a view that seems to show man off the hook, who lies and has no real grasp of reality….
The book has revelations of staff taking things from Trump’s desk because they are scared of what he might do…..
Woodward’s book will be serious and strongly backed up with memo’s , interviews and other sources of data…..
The book COULD effect the politics of the upcoming elections in shedding the light on a man in the American Presidency that is clueless….
The obvious question the book asks?
WTF would a country of more than 300 million people leave such a person in the American Presidency?
We see inside people having to keep this guy from completely fucking up things….
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My Name Is Jack says
Is anyone really surprised by this?
I doubt it.
Even his supporters ,in my view.
As usual thought they will simply laugh it all off.
Keith2018 says
I for one am willing to give Woodward the “benefit of the doubt.”
This isn’t a question of whether or not a candidate was using a racist dog whistle (he was). It’s a question or not if you believe an author who has always been well sourced, especially when two previous books have the same reports.
No the question, the only question, is why the Republicans in Congress haven’t done anything about it?
But by all means let’s question how accurate Woodward is, it’s easier than confronting people who put their party over country.
jamesb says
Lets get something straight here…
Woodward IS WOODWARD…
He HAS proof of his printed stuff…
Donald Trump and HIS supporters are gonna what they HAVE done before…
LIE….
Donald Trump lies and changes HIS REALITY…
Again?
The lawyers have ALREADY gone to Mueller and admitted that their client doesn’t tell the TRUTH…
I related over a year ago that Trump’s personal lawyers won’t talk to him alone…
THEY don’t trust him to tell the truth…
And yes Keith…
WTF have the republican lawmakers in Washington kowtowed to Trump’s method of operation?
BECAUSE HE HAS THE PRESIDENCY…
HE’S THEIR GUY….
Already you know what the Trump people quoted in the book are doing?
LYING….
jamesb says
Does Bob Woodward’s New Book Actually Tell Us Anything We Don’t Know?
….’The overall picture it paints of a mercurial president and a chaotic White House beset by backbiting and character assassination doesn’t really move the ball forward a lot. I think most of us knew that and I predicted before the election how a Trump White House would run’….
RedState….
My Name Is Jack says
There are likely to be several firings or resignations over this book.
It’s difficult to see Kelly staying on much longer.
Gary Cohn ,who supposedly has already offered his resignation before ,and had it turned down, may find it accepted,
jamesb says
While the Trump staff people ARE part of the problem?
Except Stepteh Miller?
The should get some props for holding the White House together while their boss tried to tear up the place and the country while being clueless
CG says
I believe Gary Cohn already resigned a long time ago. Do you mean someone else?
I don’t know if Bob Woodward registers with people in 2018. This isn’t the ’70s He has had really negative “insider” books about every Administration since Watergate.
His credibility will be attacked and Trump supporters will shrug is all off. (his sourcing is hopefully and probably somewhat better than the Fire and Fury guy)
My Name Is Jack says
Yeah you’re right he did.
I was confusing him with Kudlow who took his place,for what reason I don’t know.
I agree that Woodward’s book will have no influence on his supporters.
CG says
All those bald Jews start to look alike…
Good thing I’ll never lose my hair..
CG says
Yes james, I have the standing to make that joke.. (see the Dr. Whatley Rule from Seinfeld)
Though, it should be said that Kudlow did leave the Tribe.
CG says
Who is “Deep Throat” this time around as Woodward’s source?
Democratic Socialist Dave says
You probably don’t need Deep Throat’s advice this time to “follow the money”.
CG says
This time around, Deep Throat may actually be a porn star.
jamesb says
Woodward reporting had just about EVERYBODY on the record saying Trump IS clear danger to the stability of the government and planet….
I repeat…..
ON THE RECORD….
CG says
Well, as to be expected, all sorts of people who are “quoted” in the book by Woodward are now today denying they said any of it and calling it all b.s.
So, nobody will agree as to what is said.
With Woodward though, he always presents long-conversations in quotes as if he was in the room recording it and it’s just impossible to determine how much liberty he is taking in re-creating these conversations.
jamesb says
They will be running scared of Trump’s wrath
But WoodwRd says he doucumented his book and he’s a experienced pro…..
Besides?
We KNOW Trump IS batshit crazy….
jamesb says
It appears Trump was given a Trial Mueller Q&A….
It was so bad with Trump’s lying that his lawyers went to Mueller and said Trump just makes shit up….
During the practice Trump was so turned around he got made at the questioners …
jamesb says
NY Times is out with a Op-Ed by an ‘anonymous ‘
A White House staff that says they will continue to more or less protect the country from Thai boss, Donald Trump, The President….
I’ll do the post later….
There IS gonna be a internal search for this person that will result in even more distrust with the Trump Admin….
I could be wrong..
But we might be seeing the whole Trump WH coming off the tracks from this book….
Mueller’s people have to be standing around with nets…
We’ll see how the Republicans in Congress sail thru this rough sea….
All this just 2 months out from the midterm vote?
Wow?????
CG says
I just read the Op-ed (very well-written.)
This drama is “better” than anything television or motion pictures could ever have come up with.
One day, one way or another, we will probably find out the author. Maybe it’s Kellyanne? Her husband would have helped her write it.
CG says
As expected, Trump fans are saying this is completely fabricated by the New York Times and that no Administration official submitted this essay.
Defending Trump makes people take leave of their minds.
For all the historic flaws and biases of the New York Times, there is absolutely ZERO chance they would be stupid enough to do this as a phony stunt. They would risk losing everything and being put out of business.
Somebody can claim that the anonymous author is lying about the whole thing, perhaps in some universe that might be possible, but there is ZERO chance that this was not provided to the NYT by a senior Trump Administration official, as said.
jamesb says
Probably….
But the place HAS TO terrible to work at now
Worst then before
They must be REALLY under YUGE pressure to have spoken to Woodward on the record….
CG says
The author basically says the Cabinet was alarmed at the start (which is why I think it might very well be Gen. Kelly who wrote this) and started discussing the 25th Amendment.
All of them, from Pence on down, have to be afraid of Trump’s base and what those people might wind up doing politically. If the bottom ever fell out from Trump as far as public support, you may not even need an impeachment. They might just go right to the 25th Amendment.
CG says
Whomever wrote this, he or she went out of their freakin’ way to cite John McCain and his Farewell Letter as the grand finale. This is not nothing by a huge “f you” to Trump personally. They want him to be traumatized by reading this.
No tv show about a White House could have come up with this stuff..
CG says
If I had the resources or inclination to try to figure this mystery out, I would narrow in on the words “moored to” that the author uses and cross-check it against anything previously written by all sorts of senior Administration officials. Not many people are likely to have ever used that term.
It just sounds to me like something that would be said by someone a bit older and perhaps who was in the military at a high level.
CG says
I wonder how long ago this was written or has been in possession by the NYT, because based on the phone call that Woodward released of him and Trump, Deputy Press Secretary Raj Shah, would understandably be a bit upset, after hearing Trump say that he barely knew who he was.
Democratic Socialist Dave says
Since I know of no air-force or naval veterans serving in the inner White House, I’d guess that a Marine (e.g. John Kelly) would be more likely to write “moored to” than an army veteran.
CG says
Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke advanced pretty high in the Navy.
It doesn’t say they work in the White House per se. Whomever wrote it also seems to be of “Trump isn’t a real Republican” mindset, so may very well have a history with the party going back well before him.
(haven’t had this much fun since I was trying to figure out who Keith was)
CG says
All sorts of people are saying they think it’s Pence.
I doubt it.
I keep trying to read it in Jeff Sessions’ voice and it doesn’t really seem to match how he talks either.
jamesb says
Finding the anon writer doesn’t deal with the isssue of a President that has his staff on the defensive against HIM…
jamesb says
CG?
OF COURSE the book is meant to shock and dismay Trump and his soft following!
Trump is the damn President!
You have staff people (mot just one) SCREAMING at the top of their lungs that their boss, the President of the United States is woely unqualified to whole the office the Russian’s and Clinton helped him manage to grab from the jaws of defeat….
The see this clueless knucklehead up close
They are worried about Mueller asking them questions….
While the public might be a little numb from ALL the crazy assed off the wall stuff?
These people live this bad dream as their reality….
The book is a cry for help from a Republican
Led Congress that has their heads in the sand…..
CG says
To me, the op-ed is a bigger deal than the book. Woodward has “bombshell” books about every President. The detractors of the President go nuts over it and the fans of the President say Woodward is a hack or past his prime, etc. We already knew that Trump is nuts.
This is actually a primary source speaking in their own voice (albeit anonymously). This has to be a first in the history of the Presidency.
And yes, while it could be debated what these people who feel this way should actually do, it does sort of give an insight into their mindset and why they believe they have to stay and even why they may have to lie publicly to keep their jobs.
CG says
Others are narrowing in on the use of the word “lodestar”, which I think is also smart to do. (and it may very well be that the author used words that colleagues are known to use just to cover themself)
Trump is calling the person “gutless” for staying anonymous which I guess will be the new narrative since they aren’t going to try to say that the New York Times just made it all up as a parody.
The author should have used the pen name “John Barron.”
CG says
I feel dumb because I might have always thought the word was “lonestar.”
Lodestar sounds like a Stormy Daniels film.
CG says
Pence has definitely used the word “lodestar” publicly before.
It couldn’t be….
Either a coincidence or someone is trying to make Pence a suspect to cover themselves.
(this reminds me of years ago on P1, I used the word misanthrope, (National Review for decades had a column called “Misanthrope’s Corner) and people found someone online who shared my name that also used the word and that person got all sorts of harassing emails asking if they were me.
jamesb says
Trump like all President’s doesn’t like leaks….
But this more about a executive who is clueless and dangerous….
Could the mob boss thing apply here?
Again
The actions in the book are hardly new….
But Woodward’s rep IS BETTER then Trump…
Theses people said what was written…
Trump has not I believe actually straight up denied anything
jamesb says
Trump’s ego is gonna take a BIG HIT….
Again?
Donald j. trump has NO FRIENDS
jamesb says
Yes the book because of its concentrated effect and who authored it will hurt more….
jamesb says
Post coming tonight….
Make no mistake
Kavanaugh is now the side story
CG says
He still has plenty of sycophants, fake and real ones.
He’s now accusing the author of the piece of “treason” and demanding the New York Times turn them over to the government. He is legitimately losing it. Is this going to blow over, as everything seems to usually do for the most part, or is this where this turns into a Shakespeare tragedy?
jamesb says
Could this get dangerous?
Who can talk the guy down?
And Mueller is still hanging in the background?
We just want him to quit
Walk away…
Democratic Socialist Dave says
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court….
— Article III, section 3 of the Constitution of the United States of America
jamesb says
No War part, eh?
jamesb says
Alarmed?
Try scared shit-less!
The book isn’t the first mention of Trump National Security members using subterfuge
Steer their boss in the right direction….
I remember the Tillerson unflattering description of his boss….
CG?
Let’s see what happens with the GOP lawmakers
No matter what the book has?
That 40% of HARDCORE Trump supporters WILL have his back….
The other 35% or so is who wait for….
Democratic Socialist Dave says
While searching for that op-ed on The New York Times’ op-ed pages, I sadly learned that, on-line as well as in print, The Village Voice (once briefly and unhappily owned by Rupert Murdoch) has died.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/end-village-voice.html
Democratic Socialist Dave says
Twitter, 11:55 p.m. Weds 5 Sept 2018
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
I’m draining the Swamp, and the Swamp is trying to fight back. Don’t worry, we will win!
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Does the so-called “Senior Administration Official” really exist, or is it just the Failing New York Times with another phony source? If the GUTLESS anonymous person does indeed exist, the Times must, for National Security purposes, turn him/her over to government at once!
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
6 hours ago
TREASON?
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
The Failing New York Times!