Hmmmmm?
There is a strong feeling that Mueller won’t charge Trump as Giuliani says….
But?
Do we believe Rudy?
Mueller’s people are silent, as usual on things they might do until they do it….
And they could be playing for time against Trump trying to shut down the investigations….
Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team told President Trump’s legal team that they can’t indict a sitting president, CNN reported Wednesday.
Rudy Giuliani, who is leading Trump’s legal team in the Russia probe, told the network that when it comes to the president, Mueller’s team can only write a report at the conclusion of its investigation. Such a report could outline wrongdoing or include recommendations for the House.
“They can’t indict. At least they acknowledged that to us after some battling, they acknowledged that to us,” Giuliani told CNN.
The decision not to indict a sitting president would align with Justice Department guidelines dating back to the Nixon administration that say a sitting president can’t be indicted.
Giuliani added that he believes the Constitution prevents the indictment of a sitting president.
Mueller’s team declined to comment on the matter to CNN….
More….
My Name Is Jack says
Funny…
When I explained a few weeks ago why I didn’t think Mueller would charge Trump,you engaged in a full fledged argument over it
Now?”There is a strong feeling that Mueller won’t charge Trump…”
Just another day here I guess.
jamesb says
Has Rudy Giukani been ‘truthful’ in all HIS comments?
I believe I mentioned here several times the existence of the White House/DOJ view that a President should not be charged criminally while in office….
I also posted here I believe something that a someone who has worked with Mueller in the past thought that Mueller is inclined to follow the DOJ view….
BTW?
I’m STILL leaving sveral options open the Mueller and Rosenstein…
That same person also cautioned that there ARE those who dispute that view and the guy I mentioned made sure to say that it would be up to Mueller and finally Rosenstein if they followed the DOJ directive…..
Oh, and listing Trump as a unindicted co-conspirator by a grand jury (In several cases) would be pretty damaging to his tenure in office , eh?
My Name Is Jack says
It would be damaging among those already inclined to oppose him.
To his supporters?
I imagine their line would be that he is being framed and everything that is being said about him is a lie.
I pointed out that astounding poll result last week wherein 55% of All Americans(not just Trump supporters) believe that it is likely ,or are at least open to the possibility ,that he is being framed right now.
jamesb says
The OVERALL damage I believe would be horrific….
Unlike you…
I see little wiggle room for Trump coming out of Mueller’s investiagtion….
The drip…DRIP…DRIP is in his head and across the political spectrum for BOTH parties…
My Name Is Jack says
Once again you seem to contradict yourself.
@ 11:26 today on the”Only 13% thread,”you readily concede that Trumpists “still like the guy,”even though they believe he is “bullshitting “ them.
If you really believe that ,then why would you think that just because Mueller (who most of them regard as a villain who is trying to “frame” Trump )are going to be so worked up about him being named an unindicted co conspirator or anything else for that matter that they will abandon him?
Finally ,to believe that a supreme egotist ,like Trump ,would be so intimidated by such a move that he would just up and quit seems pretty far fetched in my view.
jamesb says
Yes Jack I DO believe that Donald J Trump , Big balls and all, is scared Shitless , that Robert Mueller is somehow gonna put shit he doesn’t want people to know (Mueller ALRADY IS DOING SO) and cause him to lose his job….
Damn REAL !!!
jamesb says
Everyday Jack?
He makes sure to deny stuff he has to admit to….
Latest?
I didn’t pay Daniels
Jack?
13% of America’s DO NOT believe he’s a liar and dishonest!
13#!!!!
jamesb says
Worst thing the guy ever did was become President
He could kept doing his thing under the radar something he thought he could have until Mueller got on his case….
CG says
A. You really need to accept the fact that the 13% is from a voluntary internet survey and is not a scientific number
B. Regardless, you need to accept that a whole bunch of the 87% (maybe not anyone here except the lurking NYC) just do not care.
In politics, there are many things that may happen, including I suppose he decides to quit, but that’s fairly unlikely, or that he does not seek a second term, although that might be unlikely too, so if you guys (the Democrats) do not find a way to beat him in an election, especially a theoretical traditional two party election, you are going to be absolutely losing your minds, if he survives that.
Right now, a Democrat beating him in 2020 is far, far, far from a certainty, 13% or whatever. People will go with the “devil they know” over what they view the Democrats as offering as an alternative.
jamesb says
Sure it’s a poll….
But its sample in HUGE….A million people…
Sure…As I and others here, who shall remain nameless , point out Trump supporters accept the lying from the guy…
And yup….Most of the name Dem’s are polling ahead of Trump for 2020, if he’s still in office in the running….
CG says
It’s not really a poll if you sign up to do it.
It’s basically the equivalent of Trump saying that “all the polls” showed he won the debates, because the Drudge Report online survey had him doing so.
jamesb says
Wait?
I forgot the part about Trump is so confident that his ass ain’t gonna end up in a sling that he’s fighting the CIA, FBI and everybody else…
CG says
Just be open about what you think *could* happen.
You think that it is possible that Robert Mueller, and Stormy Daniels, and Michael Cohen, and everything he may legitimately be trying to hide is going to eat away at his 71 year old soul and there will be a Breaking News headline one day.
jamesb says
Yup….
I think like a catastrophic incident?
The cracks in the tree limbs are occurring everyday….
My Name Is Jack says
You make a big deal about that number…
Once again,
So?
What you should understand( you claim that you do but quite obviously don’t) is that Trump supporters Don’t Care about his lack of “honesty,”He tells them what they want to hear,he plays to their prejudices, his “ enemies” are theirs too.
So he lies sometimes?
You apparently don’t want to face the simple fact that they don’t care.
CG says
james, as you yourself said when you gave a virtual high-five to Harry Reid for lying about Mitt Romney’s taxes, “all that matters in politics is winning.”
jamesb says
True That one the winning…
But if you are SOOOOOO slooppy to win?
That win may not be a win at all?