Update….
The person has died…
The subject has been IDed as Alex Pretti, a nurse in the intensive-care unit at the Veterans Affairs hospital in Minneapolis,
Huffington Post ….
A man was shot by federal agents in Minneapolis on Saturday morning, according to eyewitnesses and officials.
Video shows at least six masked agents wrestling a man to the ground before shooting him multiple times. It’s unclear what started the confrontation. The Minneapolis Star Tribune reports that the man was transported to the hospital in an unknown condition.
The video was taken from inside Glam Doll Donuts, where an employee confirmed to HuffPost the shooting happened. Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz (D) confirmed the shooting later Saturday morning.
“I just spoke with the White House after another horrific shooting by federal agents this morning,” Walz posted on social media. “Minnesota has had it. This is sickening.The President must end this operation. Pull the thousands of violent, untrained officers out of Minnesota. Now.”….
Note….
The question of body camera’s for ICE and other Federal law enforcement in street actions …..
…At least eight states mandate that law enforcement officers use body-worn cameras: Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Maryland, New Jersey, New Mexico and South Carolina, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.
Proponents of cameras say they provide an independent accounting of law enforcement’s interactions with the public that benefit officers and residents. Footage can gather evidence of crimes, dispel false accusations, and de-escalate tensions between police and the public.
“It protects both the law enforcement officers and the people they interact with,” said Deborah Fleischaker, a former top DHS official and an acting ICE chief of staff under Biden. “If an agent did something wrong, you want to know about it so you can handle it, so you can fix it. But it’s also protective of the agents because, look, the reality is that not every claim of use of force or bad language or abuse is true.”
Noem’s apparent failure to fully implement the body camera programs for ICE and Customs and Border Protection was a major sticking point in budget negotiations in recent days as congressional Democrats demanded reforms in exchange for avoiding another government shutdown. Some filed bills to make body-worn cameras mandatory, expressing concern that immigration officers are violating civil rights and breaking the law by assaulting people, including U.S. citizens, and entering homes without a warrant.
Multiple lawmakers said they felt Democrats had not pushed hard enough for body cameras and other reforms….
…
In the rare cases in which video from immigration officers’ body-worn cameras has been made public, the footage has sometimes contradicted DHS’s initial account….
NY Times Update….
*Did the subject have a gun or phone in his hand?…..
A phone would probably qualify this for a criminal homicide under State law….
The Feds have blocked state investgators from the crime scene in a situation that could also be called ‘obstruction of justice’….
Federal agents shot and killed a 37-year-old Minneapolis resident on Saturday, prompting renewed clashes between law enforcement officers and protesters demanding an end to the Trump administration’s immigration crackdown. Colleagues and a senior law enforcement official identified the man who was shot as Alex Jeffrey Pretti, an intensive-care nurse.
Videos analyzed by The New York Times contradict accounts given by Homeland Security officials about the shooting. They said the man approached Border Patrol agents with a handgun and the intent to “massacre” them. Footage of the encounter shows the man holding a phone in his hand, not a gun, when agents take him to the ground and shoot him.
Federal officials posted images of a handgun they said the man was carrying. Chief Brian O’Hara of the Minneapolis police said the man was an American citizen with no criminal record, and had a valid firearms permit. Open carry is legal in Minnesota.
A colleague of Mr. Pretti, Dimitri Drekonja, said he worked in the intensive-care unit at the Veterans Affairs hospital in Minneapolis. “He was a really great colleague and a really great friend,” Mr. Drekonja said. “The default look on his face was a smile.”
In a news conference, Mayor Jacob Frey of Minneapolis accused the Trump administration of terrorizing his city. “How many more Americans need to die or get badly hurt for this operation to end?” he asked. At least two other people have been shot there by federal agents this month, including Renee Good, 37, who was killed on Jan. 7.
Here’s what else to know:
-
Federal claims: Gregory Bovino, the official in charge of President Trump’s Border Patrol operations, said without evidence that Mr. Pretti had “wanted to do maximum damage.” Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota disputed the claim that he posed a threat. “Thank God we have video!” he told reporters. “It’s nonsense people, it’s nonsense and it’s lies.”
-
Multiple shots: Agents appear to have fired at least 10 shots within five seconds at Mr. Pretti after taking him to the ground, according to a Times analysis of social media videos. Chief O’Hara said investigators believe that at least two agents opened fired.
-
Neighbor’s account: Jeanne Winter, a neighbor of Mr. Pretti, described him as a pleasant man who would often walk his dog around their Minneapolis neighborhood, greeting people along the way. “This is not a violent person,” Ms. Winter said.
-
Street protests: Dozens of protesters at the site of the shooting blew whistles and angrily demanded that police officers arrest the federal agents. In response, law enforcement officials deployed tear gas and flash bangs to drive the crowd away.
-
Trump response: The president blamed local politicians and police officials for the shooting on social media, and accused Mr. Frey and Gov. Walz of “inciting insurrection.” Mr. Walz said Mr. Trump “must end this operation.” He added, “Minnesota has had it.”
-
Investigators blocked: Drew Evans, who heads the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, said federal agents had blocked state investigators at the scene of Saturday’s shooting. Mr. Evans said his agency took the rare step of obtaining a search warrant to access the shooting scene on a public sidewalk, but have been stymied.
…
Superintendent Evans said federal officials have refused to disclose the identities of federal agents involved in Saturday’s shooting, as well as the names of federal agents who have shot people in recent days in the course of the continuing immigration crackdown…..
…
*New NY Times Update on what the subject had in his hand, and what he didn’t….
Superintendent Evans said that state investigators had a signed warrant to access the shooting scene, but they were denied access by federal officials. Even though state investigators “were not able to do really any work at the scene once we had access,”he said, they had been talking to witnesses and seeking videos….
…
The man appears to resist as agents grab his legs, push down on his back and strike him repeatedly. This video does not show what led to the episode.
The footage shows an agent approaching and grabbing at the man as other agents hold him down.
An agent appears to pull a gun from out of the scrum.
Simultaneously, another agent unholsters his firearm. That agent aims at the man’s back and appears to fire one shot at close range. He then appears to continue firing at the man, who collapses.
Two agents appear to fire at the man as he is motionless on the ground.
In total, at least 10 shots appear to have been fired within five seconds, according to the video.
Footage of the encounter shows the man was holding a phone in his hand, not a gun, when federal agents took him to the ground and shot him. There was no evidence that the man who was fatally shot opened fire….
Update….
Mr. Bovino and Kristi Noem, secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, said the man wanted to hurt law enforcement officers.
Mr. Bovino said the agent who fired has been with the Border Patrol for eight years. He did not publicly identify the agent.
Chief Brian O’Hara of the Minneapolis police said investigators believed that at least two agents fired.
Video on social media verified by The New York Times shows several agents tussling with the man before bringing him to his knees.
Live coverage (free) from The Minnesota Star-Tribune
https://www.startribune.com/ice-raids-minnesota/601546426
A spectator’s video from the café across the street [may be disturbing to some]
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DT5jQ7VES1c/?igsh=MWZmdGNpcXNzZmZuYg%3D%3D
r/law series of videos about the killing (many disturbing):
https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qluenq/video_showing_ice_agents_taking_phones_from/
ICE is using facial-recognition technology on protestors and others:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-is-scanning-civilians-faces-telling-them-they-re-being-entered-into-a-terrorism-database/ar-AA1USAMN
One thing we have learned today is that to MAGA and its apologists and enablers, the Second Amendment only exists based on whether or not the person exercising the right is perceived on being on the side of Donald Trump or not. Actual conservatives ought to be beyond outraged by what voices from within the government are saying about this Constitutional right today, but we will have to stay tuned to see if they truly are.
The horrific act that happened to Renee Good could *perhaps* be excused as an official with a gun panicking and making a horrible decision in the heat of the moment. A fireable offense.
What happened to Alex Pretti looks like an execution and people should go to prison.
Well said CG!
Indeed CG…….
I’ll have more but the two deaths hopefully will NOT be in vain…..
Miller should be gone also…..
You think Trump and his lackeys are going to mend their ways?
Get real.
They’re going to do what they always do…LIE, LIE and then LIE some more
And MAGA? They’ll eat it up and join in the lying.
Don’t ever underestimate the pure hate and viciousness of these MAGA idiots.
It won’t be enough Jack…..
What “ won’t be enough?”
( some indecipherable gibberish to follow)
The NRA and Gun Owners of America both came out with statements yesterday defending Alex Pretti’s Second Amendment rights to openly carry a weapon.
Despite their members being one of Trump’s strongest supporters, they stood on the Constitutional principles they espouse.
From the Gun Owners of Minnesota:
We are deeply concerned by this morning’s reports that a federal law enforcement operation in Minneapolis resulted in the fatal shooting of 37-year-old Alex Pretti by federal agents. According to local officials, the man was legally armed, a firearm was recovered at the scene, and he is believed to have been a lawful gun owner and permit to carry holder.
Many critical facts remain unknown.
We do not yet have an independent account of what initiated the encounter or what triggered the use of deadly force. Despite widespread speculation regarding intent, there has been no evidence produced indicating an intent to harm the officers. We are calling for a full and transparent investigation by both state and federal authorities.
Every peaceable Minnesotan has the right to keep and bear arms—including while attending protests, acting as observers, or exercising their First Amendment rights. These rights do not disappear when someone is lawfully armed, and they must be respected and protected at all times.
Need to read further DSD
Both the thoroughly corrupt NRA and the Gun Owners of America,while defending the deceased Petri’s right to have a gun ,blamed not the ICE agents for his death ,but rather Tim Walz and other “radical progressives “and claim that ICE was just doing their job.
Both of these groups are nothing more than MAGA type right wing extremists who fully support Trump and company.
This is NOT gonna touch gun control….
The shooting was NOT JUSTIFIED
A Federal judge HAS TO ‘Order’ the Feds to NOT tamper with evidence?….
The Minnesota Star Tribune reports that state and local agencies have sued the federal government in an effort to preserve evidence connected to the shooting of Alex Pretti by federal agents.
A lawsuit filed late Saturday includes a request for a temporary restraining order that would “immediately bar federal agencies from destroying or tampering with any evidence” related to the shooting.
Earlier in the day the Star Tribune reported that ICE had attempted to move local police away from the scene of the shooting, but Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O’Hara refused the order…..
On the gun control question and Minnesota?
Gun rights groups challenge shooting of legally armed Minneapolis man
After federal agents shot and killed a Minneapolis man allegedly carrying a concealed weapon, gun rights groups countered a federal narrative that his firearm likely justified deadly force.
The big picture: The right to publicly carry weapons is a centerpiece of Second Amendment advocacy and has emerged as a key issue in the shooting of 37-year-old ICU nurse Alex Pretti.
The Minneapolis police chief said Pretti had a permit to carry, and videos show him holding a cell phone, not his gun, before officers wrestled him to the ground.
Between the lines: Bill Essayli, Los Angeles’ top federal prosecutor and a Trump ally, received fierce blowback from gun-rights groups over his Saturday claim that there is a “high likelihood” law enforcement will be “legally justified” in shooting someone who approaches them with a gun.
The National Rifle Association responded on X that this sentiment was “dangerous and wrong.”
Gun Owners of America condemned Essayli’s statement, writing that the Second Amendment “protects Americans’ right to bear arms while protesting—a right the federal government must not infringe upon.”
Essayli claimed that condemnation “mischaracterize[d]” his statement…..
More…
The ole Dog’s ‘American’s LOVE their guns’ keeps ringing TRUE…..
At least online. MAGA rank and file are absolutely convinced that the gun was pointed at the agents and was about to be used and there is no convincing them otherwise. They state they have zero doubt that it was completely necessary and justified. The video evidence of course directly disputes that and even the Administration is being careful to not claim as such directly, but for so many people, (not just on the Right) the only information they consume comes from sources that have an agenda and will actively confirm their own biases.
These people are simply allergic to hearing anything else
Now, if and when Donald Trump looks at broader polls and decides to throw specific agents under the bus, then the opinion of the cultists will change and they will give Trump credit for being so fair and focused on justice.
So the fact that two organizations who support unbridled carrying of guns still support that proves that “Americans love their guns.”
Damn that “ ole dog”really is a “seer.”
What an “ analysis!”