The former Republican Governor of South Carolina was asked first if Teaxs wanted to succed ?
She said it’s THEIR call….
Haley then doubled back…
“Texas isn’t going to secede.”
Haley HAS been peddling this for a LONG time….
(She screwed up the slavery question a few months ago…He still peddling this is a quarrentee she will NEVER by the American President)
Oh, ?
South Carolina is the one of the state’s MOST dependent on the Federal Government….
Again….
Haley was the governor there….
She KNOWS THAT….
We DID this break away thing ALREADY….
It cost lives and settled a score ….
Texas and South Carolina ain’t gonna there again….
This is just talk paddering Bull Shit politics and headlines…..
And the Constitution and Law do NOT say it should happen AGAIN….
Joe Biden isn’t the type to go strong…
He’s STILL a US Sentor in his heart….
But?
At SOME point?
He IS going to have to answer Texas Governor Abbott’s giving him and Blue state cities the finger in public…
If nothing else, it is historically fitting that a former governor of South Carolina would endorse the notion that a state can leave the American union of its own accord.
During an interview on Wednesday on “The Breakfast Club,” a morning radio show, Nikki Haley affirmed a state’s right to secede, in the context of the current standoff between Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas and the federal Border Patrol. “If that whole state says, ‘We don’t want to be part of America anymore,’ I mean, that’s their decision to make,” Haley said. “Let’s talk about what’s reality,” she added. “Texas isn’t going to secede.”
Later, when asked if she really agrees with the idea that states have a right to secede, Haley said that “states have the right to make the decisions that their people want to make.”
None of this is new for Haley. When asked during her 2010 campaign for governor if states had the right to leave the union, she said yes, “I think that they do. I mean, the Constitution says that.”
The problem for Haley, then and now, is that the Constitution does not say that. And if there is a right to secede, as a previous generation of South Carolinians learned the hard way, you won’t find it in our founding documents.
Secession, like its cousin nullification, rests on a mistaken conception of the American union. You see it in the opening lines of Governor Abbott’s news release rejecting the Supreme Court’s ruling that he could not keep federal agents from removing razor wire placed at the border with Mexico. “The federal government has broken the compact between the United States and the States,” Abbott wrote last week. “The Executive Branch of the United States has a constitutional duty to enforce federal laws protecting States, including immigration laws on the books right now.”
This is not new ground, either. The “compact” theory of the American union dates back to the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions of 1798, issued in defiance of the Alien and Sedition Acts. Drafted, in secret, by Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, the resolutions made two major claims. First, that the Constitution was written as a compact between the states, and second, that the federal government had overstepped its bounds and was now in violation of that compact….
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Lincoln would later elaborate on this view in a message to Congress on July 4, 1861. “The States have their status in the Union, and they have no other legal status. If they break from this, they can only do so against law and by revolution,” he wrote. “The Union, and not themselves separately, procured their independence and their liberty.”
Most important, Lincoln continued, “The Union is older than any of the States, and, in fact, it created them as States. Originally some dependent colonies made the Union, and in turn the Union threw off their old dependence for them and made them States, such as they are.”
The subsequent four years of bloodshed would settle the question. The United States was, as Lincoln declared in an echo of Webster, a government of the people, by the people and for the people. The Union was forever. And no state or states, on their own, could decide otherwise.
In other words, Nikki Haley is wrong, as is anyone else who treats secession or nullification as legitimate features of the American constitutional order.
Greg Abbott is also wrong.
The United States is not a compact…..
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This is overblown. She did not call for secession or say it could actually occur. Once again though, she does not know how to answer a question because she is worried about offending people who are never going to like her anyway.
There were a whole bunch of people, perhaps even on here, who were saying that California should secede after Trump won.
Yet CG?
She KEEPS going back to it as a ‘trigger’ for Republicans….
AND?
She KNOWS this….
She quickly come back and says Texas won’t succeed….
Even Abbott’s people kn ow….
“they take down the fence…We’ll put it back up’….
The post CLEARLY points to Abbott NOT being stupid enough to contest the High Court…
BUT?
I’d bet you’ll continue to hear the word used like Greene did in Georgia…
I cannot really make out what you are trying to say.
However, I just seem to recall you cheering on comments here in late 2016 and 2017 about how Democrats in California wanted to secede from the Union.
People can’t have it both ways.
ReRead my comment…..
Like the post heading….
Bull Shit in that Haley and Abott KNOW their succede comments are just ‘triggers’ for fellow Republicans
That’s ALL….