What can ya say?
Marianne Williamson has ended her presidential primary bid Wednesday evening after failing to break single digits.
Williamson announced she was suspending her campaign in a video, starting off talking about a quote she read recently, “sunsets are proof that endings can be beautiful too.”
“And so today, even though it is time to suspend my campaign for the presidency, I do want to see the beauty,” Williamson continued.
A prolific writer and progressive Democrat, Williamson ran to the left of President Biden, hoping to convince voters that she could be a feasible choice for those dissatisfied with establishment party politics. In the end, she exited the race after a disappointing finish in the South Carolina primary.
Williamson, 71, who also sought the White House in 2020, launched her bid against Biden last March, critiquing the Democratic Party’s ethos and pleading to fundamentally change operations in Washington…..
image….AP Photo/Meg Kinnard, File
Our friend SE wanted Marianne to get a fair count.
She did,she’s out.
SE is a good kid with often some astute observations.
His fascination with fringe candidates and old time politics ( multi ballot conventions of which there hasn’t been one in over 70 years ) being a weakness.
Joe Biden be THE MAN!
Biden is a man who willfully maintained classified documents he had no right to have, according to the Special Prosecutor’s report.
The report says he is not being charged because Mr. Biden is old and has a failing memory. Not exactly the headlines they want out there.
Yes, I know, Trump had classified documents too. He should not be President either.
retained, not maintained.
Post coming
Your reason is incorrect
To be fair CG’s obsession with a no named centrist independent somehow having a shot still in 2024 is almost as unrealistic as SE pushing Williamson.
A shot at what?
I said such a candidate, if an active candidate on Election Day and on all ballots, would receive double digits nationally. Hardly an obsession. Most Americans simply do not want to vote for either Joe Biden or Donald Trump.
Ok?
Enough with the ‘nobody wants Biden or Trump’
That IS the choices for 99% of voters….
3rd party candidates withstanding
Of course people can stay home
As is well known here, I have been and remain unenthusiastic about Biden running again.
I remain so.
And you can’t cut this latest any other way…
It’s bad.
As are these continuing memory lapses as to people he claims to have seen or talked to who are long gone.
But YOU AS most here WILL VOTE FOR ole Biden and not ole’ Trump ?????
So what’s the point?
I was not going to vote for Biden before this news broke today. Now, I believe a whole lot more people will not vote for him. That’s the point.
The best thing he can do for his (and yours, not my) party and for the country above all else is to end his campaign so that another Democrat might have a better chance of sparing us from Trump, whom you definitely know I am never voting for.
Biden IS NOT gonna be a Convicted Felon going into the November election…..
Trump WILL BE……
As U say
Some of the Republicans will vote against Trump when the time comes
Others won’t vote
Polling across the board reveals less support for a convicted Trump…..
And polls show people believe he’s guilty
I do support ranked choice do you?
And who would that be? Ross Perot joined the race in Feb 1992 and had an electric personality. That’s why he got double digits nationally.
Even if Larry Hogan or Joe Manchin announced tomorrow (and all signs are that they won’t) do you really think they’d get anywhere close to Perots numbers?
Not tomorrow, but on Election Day. A lot of the RFK Jr vote would go to such a person, because they are simply saying they are for RFK Jr. because they recognize the name.
Democrats need to have a serious discussion amongst about Biden though and if it is a good idea to run him against Trump. It needed to be had before this afternoon and now it really needs to be had. That is the most important thing in politics now and on which everything else this year will play out, including any sort of serious third party effort.
This is probably one for the books…
I agree with CG!
I agree Scott, a partisan Republican prosecutor aside, the race is between Joe and Trump.
People who believe in democracy will vote for Joe. All other votes will go to Trump.
Maybe someone can answer why the fuck the special prosecutor was asking about Beau Biden’s death?
The idea that this is going to create a groundswell for ManchinMania! or Hoganmentum! is pretty far fetched.
But this is CG. He claims he is “rarely wrong” hoping we all forget his cheerleading for such winners aa Geotge Macaca Allen and Jeb!
I would assume Biden brought it up or it relates to the dates he was Vice President before he was a private citizen again, which Biden did not remember the years.
There is a groundswell for NotTrumporBiden. Only people with blue pom poms or red hats think otherwise.
Well what are you doing about it besides posting to the 6 of us here then?
Most people in these polls who claim they don’t want either Trump or Biden have no idea how a Presidebtial campaign works and the long long odds of ANY third party in our wi.nner take all Electoral College.
But you do.
So get ourlt there boy! See who you can scrounge up to take America by storm!
What do you suggest I do? If Nikki Haley has not endorsed Trump, by 3/19, I will vote for her in my state’s primary.
I do not live in a swing state so while I would vote as a matter of conscience for a centerish alternative or write one in, there’s nothing I can do about it now. Like most Americans,I will have to see what all the options are.
What are Democrats doing about the Biden situation? Some of you think he is going to “win big.” Maybe so, but if he loses, you cannot say that you were not warned.
Now, beyond that, what you can do in your Congressional District, is to vote in your party’s primary for a reasonable Democrat alternative to the extreme and soon to be indicted Cori Bush.
Again, anyone who votes third party is voting for Trump.
Voting for Trump and all the hatred and chaos we have just experienced in Congress.
Because, Trump is the Republican Party.
Im.supprting Wesley Bell in the primary against Cori Bush.
As to you if you were at all serious about wanting a 3rd party to win you’d have supported getting rid of the Electoral College long ago. But you have fond memories of a Republican winning the EC while losing the popular vote. Even though that man is perso a non grata in today’s fully Limbaughed GOP.
Hypothetically speaking, it would be easier for a third party candidate to win via the EC than via the popular vote. It would be even easiest if an election were thrown into the House for a lack of an EC majority. All fun Poli Sci speculative discussions.
Your better argument would be “you should support Ranked Choice Voting.”
Let’s remember that Joe Biden does FINE among Democrats……
In the two primaries he HAS DONE FINE
In South Carolina he’ll do FINE
Media editors that are always stirring the pot for readers keep with the ‘anybody but Biden’ Bull Shit…..
But CG?
Ole’ Biden IS WINNING BIG and has collected MORE MONEY than ole Trump…
Democrats gonna go with Biden
Any and every body else been told 2028…
All this West, Manchin, West stuff is just media manufactured….
So because he easily beaten Phillips and Williamson in two states among Democrats means he is on track to beat Trump.
Whatever gets you through the night.
Indeed CG,……
He BEEAT challengers
Democratic voters VOTED FIR THE OLE GUY!
And thus, Democrats only will be enough to decide who becomes President.
This is why after all these years you are the Political Dog.
This Special Prosecutor’s report on Biden seems worse for him than anybody anticipated. It’s not a surprise that he is not being charged but this is nothing but a political problem for Biden and a gift for Trump.
Tomorrow will be Friday afternoon before the Super Bowl.
There is something many Democrats would like to see happen but will not dare say publicly.
Not quite as extreme as the many Republican political types who have pledged their support, but privately hope Trump does not wake up.
Dear Lord, this report says that when he was interviewed, he did not remember what years he was Vice President.
It said they decided they could not charge him because the jury would not convict him because of age/memory problems.
His own Justice Department is describing him as a “well meaning elderly man with a poor memory.”
What a campaign slogan to use.
Yo CG?
How u gonna knock Biden when Trump sounds like he’s in a alternate universe….
He rants , lies, threats and worries in his rants
I can knock both. Only a dishonest hack cannot.
I continue to have posts that I type and do not appear on here. It seems like I am wasting my time even posting here when it is a dice roll whether or not my comments will even appear.
Democrats lost in 2016 because Hillary Clinton refused to step aside over a very similar problem. The same thing might happen in 2024, but with an even harder narrative to defend.
U fine…….
Biden is fine…….
House Republicans ain’t……
The Right Wing Nuts are wagging the place along with Trump
U know that…..
Biden is not fine.
The House Republican Majority is not fine.
The Senate is not fine.
Democrats are not fine
Republicans are not fine
America is not fine.
This is our 2024 reality. But keep waiving those pom poms.
Biden’s national numbers are almost even
He needs 2 more state for EV’s
The House OS going to the Dem’s come Jam
Democrats have no problem sticking together
I agree America has issues
But the place STILL works and people risk their lives to come here
You seem to not understand that a pretty big story came out today and it is not expected to be helpful to Biden.
I refuse to make myself any dumber by trying to explain anything further to you.
Report said he read classified information to a ghostwriter which posed a “significant national security risk.”
The report says he read classified information to a ghostwriter which posed a “significant national security risk.”
This is like 100 times worse than it was expected to me. I also thought the same thing about the indictment of Trump regarding the documents he had.
I have comments that are not appearing again.
I don’t know what the word is that is not allowing my post to go through:
Let me try again..
The conventional wisdom was that he did not know he had these documents at his home. They just happened to be there. The Special Prosecutor is saying that is not the case and that he “willfully” retained them as a private citizen.
The report says he read the contents of these documents to his g h o st writer and such a thing posed a “sign ifica nt nati onal secu rity ris k.”
When I read the indictment of Trump on the Mar-A-Lago document case, I was amazed at how much worse it was than expected.
This feels the same way.
Most of the country thought Ross Perot was insane. Maybe that is what you meant by “electric”, but his personality did him no favors.
Had he not been so nutty or not dropped out and then gotten back in, he probably would have done even better.
Perot was Trump without the outright bigotry. Which is why Republican hated him.
Yeah people thought he was a bit nutty but in a good way.
Manchin is a boring corporate whore. No one is going door to door to get signatures for him like people did for Ross Perot.
Perot was far more accomplished than Trump and cared about Americans who served in the military far more than Trump.
A lot of Republicans voted for Perot though, especially in 1992, when he arguably played spoiler. The smarter Republicans who cared about character and competence voted for the very non-bigoted George H.W. Bush and then likewise for Bob Dole.
Nonetheless, the bottom line is that there is far more dislike for both presumptive nominees this year than there has EVER been before. It would be impossible to suggest otherwise, and thus, there is a vaccum. As I stated, my speculative baseline is 10 percent.
It is funny including based on what Biden just said in a speech that they are going to be claiming that Hur is a Republican. I do not know if he actually is or not, but attacking the prosecutor is of course right out of the Donald Trump playbook.
“A vicious partisan Republican prosecutor who was appointed by my own Attorney General, and who did not even have the gall to indict me!”
Here’s a former Republican who is actually doing something to keep us out of a potential dictatorship.
https://newrepublic.com/article/178435/biden-great-president-say-it-democrats
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I do not believe Joe Biden has been a good President whatsoever.
If you do, and if you believe he would be for another five years, you should vote for him. I would never try to tell you to do anything otherwise if that is what your conscience tells you.
Yes I do think Biden has been a very good President. But more importantly there are literal fucking nazis who want Trump to win.
Think I’m joking? A Republican running for Secretary of State here in Missouri burned library books in a video and closed it with “MAGA America First” in the same way German officials greeted each other with Heil Hitler 80 years ago.
It’s your choice man.
Joe Biden HAS been a ‘Good’ President…..
Infrastructure money
Extraction from Afghanistan (lousy technique)
Student loan forgiveness
Growing economy finally
Reemergence of America on the world stage
No FUCKING CHOAS‼️
Ranked choice voting could be helpful for results I would like to see in a short-term personal way in our political environment. So, it would be easy to say I am for it, purely for selfish reasons.
However, in thinking of the country as a whole, and our traditional democratic system, I have problems with the concept.
Yes I do think Biden has been a very good President. But more importantly there are literal fucking nazis who want Trump to win.
Think I’m joking? A Republican running for Secretary of State here in Missouri burned library books in a video and closed it with “MAGA America First” in the same way German officials greeted each other with Heil Hitler 80 years ago.
It’s your choice man.
Republican candidate for MO Sec of State is a literal book burner
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I agree with jack on his aversion to pom poms, blinders, and ear-plugs.
Hope I didn’t hurt his rep here by saying that.
Tribalists on both sides will put aside genuine questions over behavior, hypocrisy, judgment, and competence. That is to be expected.
Speaking of pure politics, let us take a breath and see what the polls show in a couple weeks. For those who want to see Trump defeated, I do not think they will look pretty. Maybe I’ll be wrong
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I guess my previous post about the Republican candidate for Sec of State here in MO being a literal book burner got nixed. I’ll try it again. She’s a Not See.
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Ur up Scott
I don’t think young Ms. Gomez will win the primary. According to Politics1, there are zero Democrats seeking that office?
She probably won’t. But I have yet to hear a single GOP office holder– Including current Sec of State Jay Ashcroft who is running for Governor and attended the event qt the Springfield library prior t her bonfire–denounce her.
Biden addressing the nation tonight.
So much for CG’s Newsmaxish “theory” about him being hidden from public appearances.
Is he doing an LBJ?
Wring again. He is coming our firing. Bringing up the death of Beau Biden was a big mistake. Uncle Joe doesn’t cower from a fight.
And anyone who has lost a child or loves someone who has can relate to what he talks about with Beau.
You are seeing what you want to see. I get it. Getting him out there was designed to get the pom pom wavers off the ledge.
In regards to Beau Biden, he probably was the one to have brought it up in the interview. He always speaks about Beau, which is his right but you can’t have it both ways. I have a hard time believing he doesn’t remember the year.. I am more concerned that he did not remember which years he was Vice President.
This speech and chaotic press conference was not a good idea.
He wants people to believe a) the report totally exonerates him and b) the report is complete B.S. It can’t be both. Attacking a prosecutor who just decided not to charge you is a new tactic.
Merrick Garland, the head of the Justice Department needs to answer if he sticks by the work of the Special Prosecutor and the contents of the report. Same standard held for Barr on the Mueller Report.
Biden has always made a ton of gaffes, but in the past week he has been making a ton of them. Tonight, he said the President of Egypt was the President of Mexico.
It’s at the point where I do not feel comfortable even joking about it. People will exploit the situation for political reasons, but this is a huge problem that is not going away.
I saw the Mexico vs Egypt….
But I AM Happy he IS pissed……
This all does feel like Hillary Clinton all over again. I have always said that if she had been charged by Comey, the party would have then been able to pick a different candidate and they would have easily beaten Trump in 2016. Ironically enough, that candidate would have been Biden.
Now, Democrats are apparently stuck with Biden for better or worse going up against Trump. Some of you think its for the better. I cannot really agree from a political standpoint.
I agree CG….
Comey and Hillary redux….
Comey FUCKED UP…..
Is that a Trump Tweet?
If Comey, he did from the perspective of your political party, it was in not charging Hillary with a crime. She probably should have been charged (I don’t think Biden should be charged with a crime from what I know on this.) There would have been some sort of deal cut. She never would have actually been locked up, but she would have ended her doomed candidacy and Trump would have lost by a large margin and would be doing reality shows in NYC now again. He may not even have been nominated either.
It’s funny how Trump keeps getting indicted and always attacks those who investigated him claiming they are motivated by politics only. Democrats do NOT get indicted, and still attack the same way.
Being pissed makes him look like a self-righteous politician who refuses to take responsibility for the established facts that he did something very wrong in regards to classified documents.
What was found contradicts the narrative that he has been putting out there for over a year.He continued to do it tonight.
Hurr, the so called partisan Republican, went out of his way in the report to make clear that what Trump did was worse. But they are still attacking him.
Nonetheless, there are photos of the documents on the floor in his garage in tattered boxes. Are the photos fake? They look similar to the Mar A Lago bathroom photos.
The report makes clear there are tapes of Biden disclosing information from these documents to a biographer who did not have clearance. Also, very similar to what Trump did. I did not expect that to have been the case with Biden. However, he denied it tonight on national television. They have the tapes of him doing that.
He said that he was so distracted by October 7, that he did them a favor by meeting with the Special Counsel. I am sure they could have postponed it if necessary, but Presidents are supposed to be able to do a lot of things at once. He seemed to claim that even though he was under oath, he could have answered questions correctly, but instead did not do so because he was upset he was being asked them. If you are under oath, you don’t have a choice. You are supposed to answer.
So, it’s excuses, excuses. just like Trump. and just Hillary. Those are the last two people to lose Presidential elections. Biden could be the next.