Right Now?
And maybe NEVER….
The Democratic US Senator for New Jersey isn’t going anywhere after the Feds have indicted him AGAIN….
Again?
Democrats want their stray’s to quit RIGHT AWAY….
Republicans hang in there and keep GOING TO work…..
House Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ) should resign, adding the weight of one of Washington’s most prominent Democrats to the lengthening list of party members urging the embattled New Jersey senator to leave office, Politico reports.
Sen. Jon Tester (D-MT) called on indicted Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ) to resign his seat.
Third Senator Calls on Menendez to Step Down
Sherrod Brown Calls on Menendez to Step Down
Fetterman Will Give Back Menendez Donation In Envelopes
“As Phil Murphy has skillfully navigated New Jersey Democrats to separate themselves from this debacle, the Senate caucus needs to do the same. Otherwise you’re going to get candidates in competitive states like Montana and West Virginia having to answer questions about Menendez and whether he represents a problem in the party.”
— Former Sen. Robert Torricelli (D-NJ), quoted by Politico, urging Democrats to push Sen. Bob Menendez to resign.
Playbook: “No relationship has pitted Booker’s loyalty against his politics like his friendship with Bob Menendez. Despite rising to prominence as an enemy of Jersey machine politics, Booker was the face of Team Menendez as soon as the latter was indicted on corruption charges in 2015. When Menendez’s trial ended in a hung jury in 2017, it seemed to vindicate the decision to stick by him.”
“The largest swarms of reporters today will be buzzing around Booker for a good reason. Menendez might stick around no matter what Booker says, but if Booker calls for Menenedez’s resignation it will make it safer and easier for every other Democrat who has remained mum to do the same. On the other hand, a supportive statement from Booker will be worth its weight in gold.”
Note…
As someone pointed out yesterday?
If a whole LOT of people jump in to primary Menendez?
He’s gonna be the winner to keep his job with a split vote….
The list keeps growing….
More Senators Call on Menendez to Step Down
Sen. Martin Heinrich (D-NM) called on indicted Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ) to resign from the U.S. Senate.
Sen. Bob Casey also called on Menendez to step down.
And Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) too.
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Cory Booker Calls on Menendez to Step Down
Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) in a statement:
“Stepping down is not an admission of guilt but an acknowledgment that holding public office often demands tremendous sacrifices at great personal cost. Senator Menendez has made these sacrifices in the past to serve. And in this case he must do so again. I believe stepping down is best for those Senator Menendez has spent his life serving.”
Earlier this morning, several vulnerable red-state Democratic senators also called on Menendez to step down.
Another Bonus Quote of the Day
“This week, I hope to see my colleagues fully address the alleged systemic corruption of Senator Menendez with the same vigor and velocity they brought to concerns about our dress code.”
— Sen. John Fetterman (D-PA), in a statement.
MSNBC says the count is up 18 ….
He’s expected back at work in the US Senate today….
Booker is one of 24 Democratic senators who have publicly called on Menendez to step down. Several senators — including Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, Martin Heinrich of New Mexico, Jon Tester of Montana, Sherrod Brown of Ohio, Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin, Jacky Rosen of Nevada and Bob Casey of Pennsylvania — are up for re-election in 2024, as is Menendez.
Of the group up for re-election next year, Tester, Brown, Baldwin, Rosen and Casey face competitive contests in crucial swing states that Democrats are counting on to maintain control of the chamber.
Sens. Mark Kelly of Arizona and Raphael Warnock of Georgia, who won tough Senate races last year, also called for Menendez to step down. Sen. Gary Peters of Michigan, who leads Senate Democrats’ campaign arm, urged Menendez to resign, saying that the “serious nature” of the charges “undermined the public’s faith.”
MSNBC
No doubt he ain’t clean as the first snow ….
BUT?
I hope he hnags in there and stays the course….
I’m TIRED of Democrats giving up while Republican’s hang in there and get OVER….
Just when I think you can’t top yourself with dumb, idiotic statements?
You prove me wrong.
“ Ain’t clean as the first snow?”Hes a damn sleazebag liar and crook who should have been in jail years ago!
But it’s your uh “reasoning” that I like.We Democrats need to be as slimy as the Republicans by urging crooks to stay the course.
If Menenedez quit ,his replacement would be appointed by a Democratic Governor so we wouldn’t lose the seat. Your “ logic” though is to keep the crook by all means so we can act like Republicans!
How damn dumb!
Losing the seat is a key point. Republicans have overperformed in the state in major elections over the last two years, and the Senate map is brutal for Democrats this year. Menendez is a dicey bet at best next year, and could juice Republican enthusiasm to the point of winning this race, plus key House races. At the moment, I’m not cynical enough to think Biden can lose NJ even with the party in a mess, but we’ll see.
And as CG predicted, he has Trump’s full sympathy.
James proves again that he doesn’t understand how politics works.
Another what about deflection from Corey Gross.
Not one Senate Republican has called for this crook to resign, not even Saint Mitt.
Why? Because if they did they would invite questions about why Trump is running with 90 plus indictment charges against him.
His eccentric response to the use of his given name, something we’ve all known for over a decade, is so very Republican. Say something is so even though the truth is clearly obvious to all.
Nathaniel Reed
@ReedReports
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But no Republicans as the GOP unites with Trump.
Do we think this question will be put to the “innocent until proven guilty crowd” at the Republican debate?
Guys?
I REPEAT…….
A GOPer gets caught?
They hang in and FIGHT…….
A Democrat gets caught?
They get thrown OVERBOARD
I’m tired of this shit
Same with Biden
He’s TOO FUCKING OLD
Cept Trump is only THREE years his junior
Democrats ain’t got ANY BALLS
Anyone here that dances with the throw the New Jersey senator out should be ashamed of themselves……
If there is a impeachment proceeding for President Biden should he quit?
I see this in these terms and I KNOW I’m NOT THE ONLY ONE…..
We’re talking about politicians
Not a one is on the level
But Democrats need to NOT JUST KEEP throwing their people overboard so fast
Paxton
Santos
Trump
Jim Jordan
Bush II
The is list long…….
And WORSE?
This damn thing is giving cover fire to the House GOPer RightWingNuts shutdown ‼️
Monkey at keyboard.
One thing you are right about…” I’m not the only one.”
There are millions of dumbasses just like you and that’s the major problem in this country.
But we ARE calling out our Democrats…..
They NEED TO ‘man UP’…..
Menendez ain’t a good guy….
But don’t just give shit up….
More asinine drivel.
What’s this “ man up” garbage?
What do you think this is dumb dumb?
A strongman contest?
Such stupidity!
Menenedez is a two bit crook.Maybe you like crooks. Hell,maybe you’re one yourself?
And this absurd goofiness that Democrats should be more like Republicans?Shows that you apparently admire the Republicans!Why don’t you join them then?
Unlike that motley collection of crooks, terrorists, thieves and neo Nazis who steadfastly support a piece of fi,th like Trump,,Democrats are saying yeah we think this slime bag ought to go and you criticize them for that?
What a damn idiot you are!
I agree Jack!
I agree he’s no good
But i HAVE to repeat AGAIN
Democrats throw their people away with OUT a fight
GOPer’s hang in and often prevail….
Simple
And all this is helping GOPer’s on Trump and the coming shutdown
It’s good to see a Democrat fight for once
It’s NOT goofy
It’s about fighting
Something Dem’s are doing about abortion and trying to nail Trump
The Senator needs to have his day in court and be convinced or not no different than Trump, Santos or Paxton……
U guys and the others forget this?
Oh Wait?
Democrats don’t have the same ‘Rights’?
How fair are u for your own
U guys should be ashamed of urself’s
Jack?
U more so from were U work and signed up to practice….
There are a lot of concrete examples that could be provided to dispel a false narrative of “scandal plagued Democrats always quit” and “scandal plagued Republicans never quit.” As it relates specifically to the U.S. Senate over the last 30 years or so, the number of Republican Senators who have either resigned under a cloud or dropped a reelection bid under a cloud outnumbers that of Democrat Senators.
A sitting United States Senator under indictment (and not even for the first time) for a charge of accepting a bribe from a foreign government to influence policy is pretty unique. Right now, Menendez is saying he will not resign and is still running for reelection. Again, the charges against him are pretty unprecedented for a sitting U.S. Senator.
The only Senator who was under federal indictment anytime remotely recently was Ted Stevens in 2008. His refusal to resign or not run for reelection cost Republicans a Senate seat for six years in a state they would otherwise not have lost. (Stevens was eventually exonerated on the charges.)
Putting all of this aside though, the idea that someone who might want Democrats to succeed politically thinks Menendez sticking it out and “fighting” is somehow going to reflect well on his party as well as thinking that people in his party insisting that he abide by basic standards is somehow to be looked upon poorly is pretty lacking in common sense, not to mention very unprincipled.
Glad to have ya drop in CG….
The ‘principal’ IS MY WHOLE point….
Menendez is no stranger to position he’s in
So far?
Like Santos
He ain’t going anywhere
My beef isn’t about guilt
It’s about the process for Trump should be the same for Menendez
And this will be about the poll numbers for the guy bak home in Jersey
And the trial if ot gets that far
Process for Trump.?
He does not hold political office.
Any principled person, in either party, has already long called for Trump to not seek another term or will refuse to support him for another term.
However, you have made it very clear that you DO NOT want Trump to step down and that you WANT him to be the Republican nominee.
Whether it is Trump or Mendendez, you sure want to help advance the careers and ambitions of accused criminals. You are a big part of the problem.
What jack says about you is correct in concept. However, if jack sees this, I also think he should know to be careful with some of the specific insulting words that he sometimes levels against james. “jack” may be unaware but james is African-American and I doubt he would use some of those specific derisive terms if he knew that.
Yes I AM and have been for my entire life…..
I have long ceased to rise to baiting here for a response…..
On Trump……
I HAVE made it VERY CLEAR that i have no problem with Donald J. Trump being the GOP NOMINEE……
I believe that Joe Biden BEAT the giy once and Trump HIMSELF is working HARD to help Biden beat him again…….
Again……
Menendez should get the same ‘Rights’ as Trump who i believe IS GUILTY AS HELL…..
Menendez has and is being given the same Constitutional rights as Trump. When all is said and done, after a trial, he is likely to be sentenced to several more years than Trump will. The right to be a U.S. Senator is a guaranteed right. Neither should hold office. It should not be difficult to say that or believe that.
I’m fine with THAT CG……..
I’m NOT saying he’s NOT guilty……
And unlike being President?
He’s gone with a felony conviction…..
How do U justify saying Menendez should quit but Trump should keep running??????
I don’t. Mendendez should quit his job and Trump should leave public life forever. Both should be locked up (once given a fair trial of course.)
You are the one ROOTING for Menendez and Trump both, because you put politics ahead of principle and winning/losing/owning the other side above what is best for America.
You, and the Democrats like you, are just like the MAGA crowd.
The disconnect is that your average rabid Democrat who thinks the ends justifies the means can at least recognize that Menendez sticking around is hurting Democrats and helping the MAGA crowd.
CG?
The MAGA crowd are digging their own holes
They don’t need any help…..
They can only HELP Democrats get out the vote….
And I’ve never been to Africa
I’m Black……
And a proud American…….
Born in Brooklyn…..
And a old assed Political Dog
I suppose ur White CG?
It don’t matter to me
Ur still a Republican…….
He, he, he😌
Of course your race does not matter to me and I have known you were African-American for years. Since you post so much here, you should mention it as it is something that impacts life in America and your experiences/views, just as I have always talked about how being Jewish impacts me in America and as it relates to politics.
jack uses some specific words/nicknames to insult you that I do not think he would if he knew you are black because I do not believe jack would ever want to be perceived as making a racial insult. So, I am just giving him the opportunity to find other words to insult you with. Everyone should be judged by the content of their character, not the color of their skin, and I do not think a lot about your character.
You are being both unsavvy and unprincipled. The latter is worse,but it is amazing that you think that Menendez is not HURTING what you claim to be YOUR party by NOT resigning.
Now, in regards to George Santos.Of course, he should resign. Just about every Republican in New York has said he should, but there are also differences. For one thing, the charges against him and the potential time he may serve behind bars is nowhere near as significant as what Menendez has been charged with.
Unlike a House vacancy, a Senate vacancy in NJ can be filled immediately by the current Democrat Governor.A new Democrat could be in the Senate tomorrow and serve until 2025 if Menendez resigned today, so, it should be a slam dunk for Democrats to want to see him go.
Santos’s fellow Republicans in NY want him out because he hurts them by association. Menendez hurts Democrats by association as well. Santos is almost certain to be defeated in a primary. if not, the seat will go Democrat.
Mendendez not resigning makes it more likely than would otherwise be the case that the Senate seat in NJ could be won by a Republican next year.
Update……,
Please read this……
Schumer Declines to Call for Menendez to Step Down
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) on Wednesday “declined to call on Sen. Bob Menendez to resign — gifting a bit of breathing room to the indicted New Jersey lawmaker,” Politico reports.
Meanwhile, Politico reports Menendez has asked to speak to the Senate Democratic caucus on Thursday as he faces mounting calls to resign.
Shame on Schumer and shame on McCarthy.
Hudson county Menendez’s base is NOT going to abandon him…..
If he’s around by next November?
A large primary field will assure him in his efforts to hold on
Again?
Santos has been indicted
He’s STILL going to work…….
No matter what….
Santos should resign. You seem to think he should not.
Santos is a nobody in Congress. Menendez is not and can now be considered a national security threat to America if these charges are true. What Santos has been charged with are serious crimes, but they pale in comparison to what Menendez has been charged with and
I REPEAT…….
These guys get indicted?
They go to trial where they can get a chance
Not like Trump wants to make his escape through politics……
I have made a DISTINCTION HERE……
Other’s have simply followed like lemming’s calling for the Senator to quit something ur party people DO NOT DO CG…..
Different standards, eh?
There are practical differences between a House Member getting indicted and a Senator getting indicted. It happens far less frequently in the Senate.
Senators to be indicted since 1981 at least:
Harrison Williams- NJ
Ted Stevens- AK
Bob Menendez- NJ
Bob Menendez- NJ
That’s the whole list. Menendez is accused of taking bribes from Egypt to influence policy (and for the record, I have agreed with Menendez on many foreign policy matters.)
If a House Member quits (which they should when appropriate), the people are of the district are temporarily without a Representative.
If a Senator quits in NJ (and most other states), the vacancy can be filled immediately. Since Murphy won narrowly in 2021, he would appoint a Democrat. Every single Senate Democrat, including Schumer, is wanting this to happen, whether they have the guts to say so publicly or not.
Schumer hasn’t said anything
And Menendez replacement will be a STRONG DEMOCRAT……
The seat ain’t going anywhere…..
This whole thing is a diversion
You said a few minutes ago that Menendez will be nominated for another term and are rooting for that, even though you also think he is guilty.
So, now you think he will be replaced? Odd.
If that sounds like what i said then its wrong..,..
I feel his chances are fairly good if there are a lot of people primarying him
I would NOT vote for the sucker if I lived in Jersey
If Menendez is on the ballot next November, he will lose to a Republican.