The actual vote for the nomination starts 4-5 months from now and runs for another 5-6 months….
During the time involved Donald Trump is gonna be doing court time….
No matter….
54% of Republicans in the NY Times poll say they’ll vote for Trump to run against President Biden AGAIN….
BUT?
There ARE Republicans who do NOT actually ‘like’ Donald Trump and are NOT Solid Donald Trump voters…..
MAGA Base……37%
Persuadable…..37%
Not open to Trump….25%
Deep diving into the poll numbers shows a Trump with Good support….
But?
Not a ‘Lock’ so far…..
Today, Donald J. Trump’s lead over Ron DeSantis is nearly twice as large: 37 points, according to a New York Times/Siena College pollof the likely Republican primary electorate released Monday morning.
Of course, there’s still plenty of time left before the Iowa caucuses in January. The candidates haven’t even set foot on a debate stage. And while no candidate has ever lost a nomination with so much support, no candidate with so much support has faced so many criminal indictments and investigations, either.
But even if it might be a mistake to call Mr. Trump “inevitable,” the Times/Siena data suggests that he commands a seemingly unshakable base of loyal supporters, representing more than one-third of the Republican electorate. Alone, their support is not enough for Mr. Trump to win the primary. But it is large enough to make him extremely hard to defeat — perhaps every bit as hard as the historical record suggests.
Here’s what we know about the depth of the support — and opposition — to Mr. Trump from our poll, and why it’s so hard to beat the former president.
The MAGA base, defined
It’s populist. It’s conservative. It’s blue collar. It’s convinced the nation is on the verge of catastrophe. And it’s exceptionally loyal to Donald Trump.
As defined here, members of Mr. Trump’s MAGA base represent 37 percent of the Republican electorate. They “strongly” support him in the Republican primary and have a “very favorable” view of him….
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Perhaps Mr. DeSantis or another Republican will peel away a few of these voters, but realistically this group isn’t going anywhere, maybe not even if Mr. Trump winds up being imprisoned. This group is probably about the same as the voters — 37 percent — who supported Mr. Trump in the polls on Super Tuesday in 2016. It’s probably about the same as the group of Republicans — 41 percent — who supported him at his low point in January, in the wake of last November’s midterm elections.
This is an impressive base of support, but it still is not quite a majority of the Republican primary electorate.Most of the Republican electorate either doesn’t strongly support Mr. Trump in the primary or doesn’t support him at all. Most don’t have a “very favorable” view of the former president, either. In theory, it means there’s an opening for another candidate.
But with so much of the G.O.P. electorate seemingly devoted to Mr. Trump, the path to defeating him is exceptionally narrow. It requires a candidate to consolidate the preponderance of the rest of the Republican electorate, and the rest of the Republican electorate is not easy to unify….
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There’s the group of voters who may not love Mr. Trump, but who remain open to him in the primary and in some cases support him over the alternatives. It’s a group that’s broadly reflective of the Republican electorate as a whole: It’s somewhat conservative, somewhat favorable toward Mr. Trump, somewhat favorable toward Mr. DeSantis, and split on whether to support the former president, at least for now.
There’s also a second group of voters who probably won’t support Mr. Trump. They represent about one-quarter of the primary electorate and they say they’re not considering him in the primary. These voters tend to be educated, affluent, moderate, and they’re often more than just Trump skeptics. A majority of these voters view him unfavorably, say he’s committed crimes and don’t even back him in the general election against President Biden, whether that’s because they actually prefer Mr. Biden or simply wouldn’t vote….
jamesb says
Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
If 25% of Republicans aren’t open to Trump in the primary, and 29% of those say they’d vote for Biden– Biden would take ~ 7% of Rs in the general.
Two notes:
1. That’s similar to 2020. BUT: Will Biden do as well with indies and Ds as in 2020?
2. Jan 6 has had no effect on Rs.
jamesb says
More on this poll….
The media talking heads ARE gonna singing that President Biden is tied with Trump for next yuears election….
They aren’t……
Two polling outfits that run averages and trends actually have polling showing Biden is AHEAD of by a small margin…..
Most of the polls they have show Biden tied or ahead by as much as 7% points….
In addition?
Biden’s favoribies are also slightly higher than Trump….
Remember ….
Donald Trump under incitament has been campiagning and is ALL over the media….
President Biden has not and he’s ahead…..