The Republican party is just about a ‘means’ to get what he wants….
Not about Rublicans
A LOT of Republican lawmakers ands establishment types art being draged along by a ‘Movement ‘ guy….
(Trump’s only major thing’s seems to be j the 2027 tax deal that helped the rich and big business and appointing right leaning judges)…He didn’t build much Southern Border wall)
Only now will those running against Trump for the 2024 Presidential nomination beging to attack the ex-President who lost trying to keep his first government job….
They will be trying to get things back thru the party rules….
Trump largely ignored the party’s needs, both electorally and legislatively. Instead, he focused on building his own movement within the party. That made him a different kind of president.
Trump did help remake the GOP coalition, but he didn’t ultimately grow it. While Republicans won more voters of color than at the party’s low point in the Barack Obama years, they still cast their ballots in large numbers for Democrats. The shift by white working-class voters to the GOP sped up under Trump, though that was offset by more middle- and upper-class white voters swinging to the Democrats. Trump has made it far more difficult for Republicans to win in the suburbs.
But as MAGA adherents seized control of the GOP, it became clear that Republican primary voters mostly didn’t care, even as it cost the party. In the 2022 midterms, Trump-backed MAGA candidates like Kari Lake and other swing-state politicians who were the most vocal in their denials of the 2020 election result, and the loosest in their commitments to basic democratic institutions and values, were the ones who lost races that traditional Republicans might have won.
The 2022 elections offered some of the strongest evidence that Trump was a movement president rather than a party leader. His inclination to back a MAGA foot soldier who embraces his grievances and election lies reveals his priorities; he’s more intent on channeling the energies of his far-right base than appealing to swing voters or even party regulars.
Trump hasn’t been a complete failure as a party leader. He remade the GOP in his image and scared off dissenters in the Republican ranks like Paul Ryan and Jeff Flake. No other president — not Reagan, not FDR, not Lincoln — has been able to reshape his party from the top down in quite the same way. As political scientist Daniel Galvin observes, Trump used his public prominence to elevate supporters and push out dissidents from within his own party, and a group of loyalists made a concerted effort to elect Trump supporters in state party elections throughout the country.
But where other presidents have made real change in their parties’ policies or united them under his legislative agenda, Trump faltered. Congressional leaders demurred on funding for his border wall and pursued a typical GOP agenda; the landmark bill of the Trump presidency was a package of massive tax cuts. Trump also notably failed to unify his party around a plan to repeal the Affordable Care Act, a yearslong Republican goal….
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What does this mean for the relationship between presidents and parties, and particularly for presidents after Trump?
Obviously, Joe Biden is a much more traditional party figure than Trump. He’s the clear leader of the Democrats, but he doesn’t dominate them in the same way as Trump — or seemingly shrink the party’s reach like Trump. Furthermore, no one would associate Biden with many of the movements that now animate the Democratic coalition….
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Trump’s time in office shows what can happen from a governance perspective: Less may get done legislatively, but the tools of the executive branch can deliver plenty that a movement demands: the right rhetoric, executive orders and judicial appointments. That’s particularly true for a movement that prioritizes things like tightening immigration restrictions. And as the strength of the MAGA movement holds firm, there may be few Trump skeptics in the GOP left to object…..
Who cares about the Republican Party?
Do you?
Why?
Frankly?
I want them to be so screwed up next year that Biden wins by 20 million votes gaining more electoral votes……
Know ur enemies……
To NOT is stupidity…….
And to give up their House majority and leave Democrats with the Senate……
Not to big democrat majorities cause lord knows what crazy shot they might do to help the GOPers come back 2026…..
Well none of that has anything to do with your obsession that Trump doesn’t care about the Republican Party, Trumps not a “real” Republican etc etc.
Trump has twice been nominated by the Republican Party as its standard bearer and might be for aThird time.He has totally dominated that party for seven years now.He is Overwhelmingly supported by the electorate of that party.
Yet you seem obsessed with this he’s not Republican routine .
It’s old, worn out and superfluous.
Actually?
The piece linked says the SAME THING i do…..
Just in the piece his thing is a ‘movement’…..
I stick to my story
Donald J.Trump has used the Grand Ole Party as a vessel for his own narcissistic means….
He is NOT a True Believer…..
Never was…..
But like before him?
He HAS the ability to sway crowds to his way…
I agree with you
At least 30% of Republicans WILL vote for him even if his a convicted felon times over
He has at least the 2024 and 2028 GOP nominations locked down regardless of the irrelevant fact of whether he is a true believer.
If Trump is nominated as seems likely in 2024 he will be the first 3 time in a row Presidential nominee of a major party since FDR.
He’s also rewriting the history books on getting indicted……
He may get 2024…..
But 2028 IS NOT gonna be Trump……
Describe for me who is a “true believer” Republican and how these “beliefs” differ from Trumps and be SPECIFIC.
Is Ron DeSantis a “true believer “ Republican?
If so, describe in detail all the issues that he differs from Trump on.
Enlighten us as to what is a Republican today .
Trump IS BIG BUSINESS…..
DeSantis is NOT….
Trump could care less about immigration and abortion….
DeSantis WAS a party person….He was House member…
DeSantis HAS flex executive power…
Trump NEVER adjusted to the confines of the government….
Trump has espoused violence…..
DeSantis has NOT….
Trump is 76 years old….
DeSantis is 44 years old….
I could go on but the above is enough…..
Oh, I forgot…..
Trump face’s criminal charges…..
DeSantis has no such issue now or coming at him this fall and next year…
Trump is far more Republican than Reagan or the Bush dynasty at this point.
Yes Scott…..
But?
The party AGAIN is JUST the vessel for his goals…..
No no no!
As usual you try to obfuscate and you didn’t answer the questions at all and of course we all know the reason don’t we?
Where to start.
Trump is “big business?”
The Republicans are all about big business.You say DeSantis isnt?
So Trump must be a bigger Republican than DeSantis ,right?
DeSantis served in the House ?So?You didn’t add that DeSantis won the governorship over the favorite largely due to Trumps endorsement.So Republicans in Florida voted for a Trump endorsed candidate even though Trump isn’t “really” a Republican.I see ,I see.
Then the age difference?Thats an issue stand?Ridiculous.
Trump served four years as President but DeSantis has “flex executive power?” Whatever the Hell that means.
Look it’s nice to know that you admire DeSantis and that he is younger than Trump and we of course all “remember “ DeSantis ‘s outrage over Jan 6?Haha!
You answered my questions no at all.
Unsurprisingly of course because you can’t.
DeSantis isn’t admirable……
He’s a bad politician…….
His state lawmakers have allowed him to be worse
I don’t know who could lose worse in the 2024 Presidential
Trump or DeSantis
On second thought?
As crazy as Trump could be?
He could try to come back to the middle….
But AGAIN
He’s just about himself
Not policies
More idiocy …
No policies?
Yeah that’s why even the anti Trumpers in the Republican Party claim that Republicans “like his policies” but not his personality.
Hell though what do they know?
Right?
How damn dumb!
Donald Trump’s MAIN POLICY is MAKE MONEY….
The guy successfully pimped HIS government out of millions….
And?
His effort to do that with the classified file’s, if true, could verry well cost him a criminal conviction….
Yeah so? The truth is being a “true believer” in political parties has always been overrated.
Former MO Sen. Jack Danforth said when he was filing to run for office the first time he picked Republican because the line was shorter.
The difference with Trump is he picked the Republican party not because the line was shorter but because he saw they were a cult in need of a leader.
Yes remember there was a controversy when Trump first became the nominee in 2016 when It was reported that Trump had once said that he decided to run as a Republican because they were “just dumb enough to nominate him?”
Trump vehemently denied ever saying it and there was no evidence he had.
But to a large extent the sentiment was probably true!
Actually MOST lawmakers ARE ‘true believer’s putting party above their own feelings and beliefs……
We report THAT here every day…….
Donald Trump does NOT qualify for that as we all seem to agree to from different points of view…
Again……
Trump goes whatever way helps his ego
And helps him make MONEY…..
It might surprise you fork but almost all politicians are supreme egotists
Even your latest crush,Nikki Haley.
Once again ,your well known obsession with Trump is present throughout this entire thread.
We’ll see on your former Governor….
I’m NOT counting her out…..
“The Party is just the vessel for his goals.”
No more so than it is a “vessel” for anyone who is the Republican nominee.
Utter nonsense!
Give it up Clarence!
Trump is the epitome of a Republican.The Party has largely adopted his views and your pitiful efforts to “prove” that Trump isn’t a “real” Republican is on a par with most of the other goofy theories you jabber about here daily.
Finally ,I’m sure any Republican would guffaw at you, a non Republican, declaring who is or isn’t a Republican.Ponder that one for awhile Seymour!
Now let’s continue our discussion as to Trump not being a “real” Republican…
Remember the first thing Trump did as President?Proposed one of the biggest tax cuts for the wealthy in history.Mind you one of the first things.Straight out of the Republican playbook.Same thing Mitt, or Jeb or Ted Cruz would have done.But hey Theyre “ Republicans “ but Trump ain’t,so says James.
Then Trump appointed some wild eyed anti Environmental guy as EPA head.Republicans have been trying to weaken EPA for years even though Nixon started it.Hey maybe Dick wasn’t “ really” a Republican either.Who knows?What sayeth ye James.once again right out of the Republican playbook.
Then the Judges. Trump appointed hundreds of them.All Republican and all heartily approved of by all Republicans, including three to the Supreme Court.But a Republican.?That Trumps not,according to James.
Now the one area where Trump deviated from the Republican line was in foreign relations where Trump became chummy with Putin, questioned NATOs existence and started making demands on Europe.Now ,until the early fifties ,isolationist factions had long existed in the Republican Party but had been subsumed by internationalism with Eisenhowers taking over the party(speaking of a non Republican,you ought to check into that James) .However a funny thing happened .Trumps positions are now within the mainstream of Republican thought.Indeed around half of Republicans oppose aid to Ukraine. Thus ,this supposed non Republican Trumps foreign policy views are now a respectable view in the Republican Party.
Are There any real Republicans left?Ronald Reagan, a nation turns its lonely eyes to you!
Trump?He ain’t no Republican.He just tells them what to do.Uh so sayeth James…
Tax cuts that probably earned HIM MILLIONS?????
Water down reegulations and rules?
Right up HIS alley of distiane for Government…..
You KNOW like a good b usiness man’s mantra…..
As you point out….
He ain’t nothing to do with ‘REAL Reagan’ Republicans…
He just borrows a little from them , eh?
Gotta keep up the image…..