In exchange for a failed Voting Rights Law effort?
Could Senator’s (Enough from Both parties?) agree on tightening up how the Electoral College works so things DO NOT come down to what happened last year?….
With their drive to secure far-reaching voting rights legislation nearing a dead end, Senate Democrats face a decision they had hoped to avoid: Should they embrace a much narrower, bipartisan effort to safeguard the vote-counting process, or continue what increasingly looks like a doomed push to protect access to the ballot box?
A growing group of Senate Republicans and centrist Democrats is working on legislation to overhaul the Electoral Count Act, the 19th-century law that former President Donald J. Trump sought to exploit to overturn the 2020 presidential election. That effort is expanding to include other measures aimed at preventing interference in election administration, such as barring the removal of nonpartisan election officials without cause and creating federal penalties for the harassment or intimidation of election officials
Democratic leaders say they regard the effort as a trap — or at least a diversion from the central issue of voter suppression that their legislation aims to address. They argue that the narrower measures are woefully inadequate given that Republicans have enacted a wave of voting restrictions in states around the country that are geared toward disenfranchising Democratic voters, particularly people of color.
Still, even if there is no consensus to be found on a bill addressing how votes are cast, proponents say there is a growing sentiment in favor of ensuring that those that are cast are fairly counted….
Some sorts of Electrical legislation is probably gonna get to Biden’s desk……
This is another example of the leadership of BOTH PARTIES working against the basic of a deranged President trying to steal an election….
He WILL keep Losing around the edges….
Plan to Prevent a 2024 Coup Quietly Advances
Greg Sargent: “In a welcome turn of events, a new plan to ‘Trump proof’ the 2024 election is advancing in Congress. Surprisingly, it appears to have some Republican support.”
“And Donald Trump is in a fury over it.”
Politicalwire
Romney Pitches GOP on Reforming Electoral Count Act
Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT) is pushing a bipartisan approach to reforming the Electoral Count Act, Politico reports.
Said Romney: “This has to be something that’s attractive to not 50 on one side and 10 on the other, but instead 30 or 40 on each side. It’s not intended to be a partisan effort at all.”
Politicalwire
Hopefully substantial numbers of members from both sides will support this effort.
Indeed it looks that way……
That vote would be giving the ‘ Big Guy’ the finger by ‘his ‘ party people……
He can pitch all he likes, the GOP, along with Mitt, still supports voter suppression.
This bill makes automatic what Congress did by tradition for the most part. It does nothing to stop Republican legislatures from sending Republican electors even if a Democrat won the state. They have been busy passing laws that give themselves that power.
This bill doesn’t prevent that and in many ways a fig leaf to make themselves look pro-democracy.
The GOP has only won the popular vote once for President in 20 years, but has been in the White House for 12 of them. Do you think they are going to let a statewide vote total stop them next time. They will cry fowl and fix the election results.
The party that is about to throw Cheney and Kinzinger out of the party is anything but pro-democracy. They are only interested in power and will do whatever is necessary to keep it.
Excellent view on the Electoral College process
‘Fix’…..,
But I constantly remind…..
As fucked up as the old way of doing things?
It worked…,..
Push back Republicans themselves and with unanimous judges and court support…..
A desperate loser got NO traction in his efforts….
Heck even the government people’that reported’ refused to heed his request’s …..
As for Cheney
Me thinks she’ll get re-elected as a Republican
Censure ain’t nothing bit a statement on a piece of paper….,,
It’s up to voters back home
Not in DC…..
Maybe she will since all she needs is a plurality ,not a majority ,and it’s a multi candidate field,at least for now.There are ongoing efforts to get it down to a one and one race.
Once again,so she wins?
You do understand that Liz Cheney is a very conservative Republican,was a major supporter of Trumps until the steal ,and her votes in Congress will be very similar to say Marjorie Taylor Greene.
I have no particular interest in Cheney ,unlike almost everyone else here ,and I don’t see where her ekeing out a win in race race in a small state like Wyoming has any real national implications.
Further ,a re-elected Cheney will likely face retribution from Republicans in Congress.Trump stooge ,Kevin McCarthy , backed by the Republican caucus might strip her of committee assignments or possibly even kick her out of the caucus itself.Who knows?
Nothing is too crazy for these Republican extremists.
Yes Jack I do……
I have had to explain same to here that have the same mistaken view u point out….
She IS doing a job for her country and her party members aren’t happy about it it would seem…..
He, he, he
Could U image the McCarthy majority requiring him to ‘dance’ with Cheney?
THAT! Would Be some show ‼️
Right on time Jack from Politicalwire….
Kevin McCarthy Walks a Tightrope
Punchbowl News: “With President Joe Biden and Democrats unable to move their agenda due to Senate GOP opposition, the American public’s frustration with the continuing Covid pandemic and soaring inflation felt across the country, and House Republicans seemingly on the march toward the majority, why would McCarthy want the spotlight on internecine fighting over Trump? The way the GOP leadership sees this, Kinzinger will be gone from Congress after the election and Cheney will lose in November.”
“McCarthy has a tightrope to walk here. If he’s seen as protecting Cheney and Kinzinger, the California Republican risks damaging his relationship with the hard right – a relationship that was once rocky but is now largely under control. However, If he gives in to their demands, McCarthy puts the spotlight directly on his conference at a time when his best move is to keep a low profile.”
She most likely won’t be re-elected, but keep up the fantasy James like this is all in the rear view mirror. Or the notion you understand what I wrote.
It’s all in the rear view mirror! Remember? You had no idea what you were typing then and it’s painfully obvious you still don’t.
“The Electoral College worked?” We learn every day just how close we came to having our government overthrow and the idea that Republicans are working to make that easier to do in the next election is ignored here. But let’s have happy talk.
The majority of the Republican Party voted to overthrow a legitimate election. They are working to make it easier to do the next time. But Liz Cheney is doing her job. Kind of a false equivalency don’t you think. But you obviously don’t think.
And Cheney will be punished severely for this one act, and Adam isn’t even trying to be re-elected. The rest of the Republicans who voted to impeach in the House have run for the hills or aren’t running.
Our host deals in rehashed platitudes, you compliment statements he doesn’t even understand, and he continuously fails to understand the basics of government. No wonder he has only five people who post here.
Pathetic.
I hear ya Keith
Nevertheless the old system worked actually on several level’s….
Joesph R. Biden IS THE US President
The Big Guy is the crybaby loser….
Wow, Joe Biden is President. News flash.
It worked because the other side was too stupid and incompetent to succeed. They are busy correcting that mistake as I type this, but keep looking in your rear view mirror James.
Things are different in the real world James.
We learned last night that the Republican National Committee will vote today to censure Reps. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) and Liz Cheney (R-WY) for the crime of investigating the Capitol riots that threatened to derail the counting of electoral votes on January 6, 2021.
The resolution will say that Kinzinger and Cheney assisted in the “persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse.”
This comes just days after Donald Trump suggested at a rally that he would pardon the Capitol rioters — who tried to overturn the election — if he became president again.
It comes as we learn more details of Trump’s scheme to submit fake slates of electors to Congress. Something this new bill that everyone is praising would not stop because Republican states would certify them no matter the vote totals.
And it comes after we learned of Trump’s push to have the military seize voting machines in key swing states.
It’s worth noting the RNC isn’t considering censuring Trump for any of these clearly anti-American transgressions.
And the RNC isn’t mulling censures of Reps. Majorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), Matt Gaetz (R-FL), Madison Cawthorn (R-NC) or Paul Gosar (R-AZ) for their own anti-democratic rantings.
That tells you everything you need to know about today’s GOP.
The Republican party is the insurrection now.
He, he, he
Romney has the other two’s back
Again
Censure really in nothing and McCarthy could end up needing her vote come next year in the caucus……
He, he…..
The House Caucus has censured two of its members because they are digging into efforts to by people to ‘steal’ an American Election…..
America the ‘ Beautiful’….
Pay no attention to the man behind the screen….
It took a constitutional amendment (the 17th, ratified in 1913) to transfer the power to appoint U.S. Senators from state legislatures to popular vote.
I have no idea of the relevant constitutional case law*, but it seems to me that it might take a constitutional amendment (2/3 of both Houses + [some hopes] 3/4 of the states) to do the same for Presidential Electors — which didn’t happen in South Carolina until Reconstruction in 1868.
Even a rewritten Electoral Count Act amendment passed by 67 Senators and 290 Representatives (dream on!) -might not be sufficient in itself.
* from Article II of the Constitution:
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Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
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The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.
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Last part I’d guess the add the VP CANNOT charge any state todal……
If there is a tie the vote goes to the House I believe…..
A tie in this day and age is virtually impossible
I haven’t had any of the popular vote giys drop in here on their efforts to nail down enough state’s to get ‘around’ the electoral college process….
I don’t know that it’s “virtually impossible” for no candidate to win 270 Electoral votes, thus throwing the choice into the House (with one voter per state, not per seat).
In a three-way or four-way race (as deliberately caused by the minority Dixiecrats in, for example, 1860, 1948 & 1968) it’s not hard to imagine no candidate (as in 1824) winning a majority of the Electoral College.
Even a clean 269-269 break is not inconceivable, I can’t remember if it was in 2000 or 2004 that you could easily find a dozen different plausible combinations of 269 to 269. [Anyone who plays with those historical election calculators might be able to find out.]
Things SHOULD be straight up ‘popular’ vote for President like everything else…….But Republicans would be fucked, eh?
I admit that I am strongly rooting for Cheney to keep her seat.
We have enough Republicans out of office criticizing Trump and it doesn’t seem to make a damn bit of difference. I want the likes of Liz Cheney there on the Hill every day to remind these cultists of the deal they made with the devil.
Actually so am I, but she’s horribly unpopular in Wyoming, and why? She disrespected The Great White Hope. Doesn’t matter what she stood for.
Also, this bill that is being put forward on the electoral college isn’t a reform. It will still work the same way, it only makes it harder for Congress to overthrow the real result. But don’t worry, the local Republicans will do that.
House Republicans have declared the actions of Jan 6 “legitimate political discourse” and have censured Cheney and Kinzinger by a voice vote.
The whole thing took less than two minutes, no one was against, all of us should, but don’t, now know who runs the GOP.
No, guys, it’s not the House Republican Conference (bad though it is — after all they dumped Liz Cheney as a leader for all the wrong reasons), but the Republican National Committee, which has long been (partly from honestly representing their loyal partisan base, even in Massachusetts) a completely-owned subsidiary of Team Trump.
Like, the DNC,, the RNC is composed of each state’s (or territory’s) party chairman or chairwoman, its National Committeeman and its National Committeewoman. We all saw in 2020 how closely the party apparatus clung to Trump: several state parties did his bidding by cancelling popular primaries that might have embarrassed him and picking the convention delegates by themselves.
Here’s the actual text of the resolution, as cited or excerpted by a strongly critical opinion piece by Jack Holmes in Esquire
WHEREAS, The Biden Administration and Democrats in Congress have embarked on a systematic effort to replace liberty with socialism; eliminate border security in favor of lawless, open borders; create record inflation designed to steal the American dream from our children and grandchildren; neuter our national defense and a peace through strength foreign policy; replace President Trump’s “Operation Warp Speed” with incompetence and illegal mandates; and destroy America’s economy with the Green New Deal;
¶WHEREAS, Winning back the majority in Congress, including the United States House of Representatives, in 2022 must be the primary goal of the House Republican Conference (“Conference”) and requires all Republicans working together to accomplish the same…
¶WHEREAS, The Conference must not be sabotaged by Representatives Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger who have demonstrated, with actions and words, that they support Democrat efforts to destroy President Trump more than they support winning back a Republican majority in 2022;
¶WHEREAS, Representatives Cheney and Kinzinger are participating in a Democrat-led persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse, and they are both utilizing their past professed political affiliation to mask Democrat abuse of prosecutorial power for partisan purposes, therefore, be it
RESOLVED, That the Republican National Committee hereby formally censures Representatives Liz Cheney of Wyoming and Adam Kinzinger of Illinois and shall immediately cease any and all support of them as members of the Republican Party…
https://news.yahoo.com/text-republican-censure-liz-cheney-173400849.html
Keith?
It ain’t shit….
Just a press avail for the Big Guy…..
What you wrote here makes no sense James, not an uncommon occurrence, but it shows how much you don’t understand about politics as you attempt to drive your massive ignorance through your pinhole brain. The entire Republican Party infrastructure just censured two Republican Members of Congress because they disrespected Trump and you still insist Trump is fading.
Dancing for the the guy who pimp’s their party
And FAILED SPECTACULARLY IN HIS EFFORTS LIKE IN other shit…..
The list in LONG……
Bit people have short memories
Dumb
“Their party.?”
No “his party””
Republicans have made their choice.Not only is Trump a Republican.He is the epitome of what it means to be a Republican.
Then there’s a clown like you trying to be the arbiter of who is and is not a Republican?
Like I said….
Dumb!
Oh i don’t disagree that most Republicans are prostrating themselves for a lowlife LOSER ……
Nope….
THAT IS
Trump is now more emblematic of the GOP than Reagan ever was.
Their party?
His party.
Why they even pay his legal bills.
He controls the money.
No one, other than the usual suspects have publicly disagreed with him.
This fantasy James is past its sell by date. Way past.
Of course they ‘pay’ his bills
It the way of the pimp
And u guys think I don’t know what I’m talking about…,.
YOU guys don’t get it
This giy has been doing this forever
U make me smile
That makes no sense.
excellent commentary by George Conway
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/02/04/pence-speech-trump-wrong-nr-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/
Sorry, Zreebs, that link is video of Mike Pence before the Federalist Society (which although formally non-partisan and bipartisan, cheered his prediction to when “we win” in 2024). That video is the next one in sequence at CNN from George Conway’s remarks to Anderson Cooper about the RNC and Jan. 6th, here:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/02/05/rnc-legitimate-political-discourse-jan-6-george-conway-ac360-intv-vpx.cnn
It’s also weird to see how Mitt Romney’s niece, Ronna Romney McDaniel, and Dick Cheney’s daughter Liz now face in opposite directions from where Sen. Romney and VP Cheney had ben classed in 2008.
Sorry. Conway essentially said that initially regarding Trump, Republicans could be accused of cowardice. But supporting Trump’s efforts now are a sign of depravity.
Sorry I’m too lazy to look for the original article, but I suspect it could be found.
Conway….
Attorney George Conway suggested that former President Donald Trump is “afraid” of what former Vice President Mike Pence could say.
Trump on Friday evening released a statement taking aim at Pence after the former vice president explained that Trump was “wrong” to claim that he had the authority to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. The ex-president argued this week that Pence should have unconstitutionally rejected the electors from key swing states in a bid to keep him in the White House.
Conway, the husband of Trump’s former senior counselor Kellyanne Conway, has long been a critical of the his wife’s ex-boss. In a Saturday Twitter post, Conway shared Trump’s statement targeting Pence and suggested the former president is “weak.”…
More….