They just are a mess according state and local officials……..
And their numbers ARE used by health and government officials , some which look at them unreliable
That leaves us with?
Biden admin people using INTERNATIONAL data numbers to look back domestically….
(*Figures and graph’s in the NY Times and Wash Post are based on CDC data and other inputs , yet show different results?)
As the world experiences new, more transmissible Covid-19 variants, scientists and health officials in the U.S. are still struggling to gather accurate and timely domestic data to help inform policy decisions to safeguard Americans.
Continuing gaps in the CDC’s data collection program, which almost two years into the pandemic still relies on state health departments who use a mix of often incompatible and outdated state systems to identify cases, impedes the nation’s understanding of where and how fast the virus is spreading, according to more than a dozen state and federal officials involved in tracking cases.
The fact that the data gaps have been apparent since the start of the pandemic makes the lack of substantial improvement particularly galling to many infectious disease specialists.
“I think we’ve done a horrible job from day one in data tracking for the pandemic,” said Eric Topol, a professor of molecular medicine at Scripps Research and former advisory board member of the Covid Tracking Project, a team that worked to collect and synthesize local Covid-19 during the peak of the pandemic. “We’re not tracking all the things that we need to to get a handle on what’s going on. It is embarrassing.”
Meanwhile, other Western countries have tapped into their modern health systems that can easily track patient data and seamlessly share epidemiologic information across a broad spectrum of health care facilities and public health departments. Because of the lack of accurate and timely domestic data, Biden health officials over the last eight months have increasingly relied on international sources to respond to domestic surges in part because they believe the information is more reliable, the officials said….
* Those two media outlets have yet to publish anything critical of the CDC data they use….
jamesb says
Breaking
The CDC reports 73% of US virus infections are now the omicron strain……
That would account for the speed of this virus spike
And
Would explain the relative mildness of the infection’s now….
It would also point to the fact that the virus WAS here before they did all the border closing that evidently ain’t gonna work…
Remember…..
The CDC ain’t too good with data numbers also…
But Omicron IS working its way thru America
Ah?
Last week the CDCC had the omicron rate at 2.9%…..
Just pointing out a question mark
The media is NOW in its ‘Hair on Fire’ mode with this…..
Again?
Hospital stays and Deaths are NOWHERE near anything like the CDC’s data’s educated ‘guess’ one would assume and THAT again?
Maybe a good thing
Zreebs says
Back to the GOP’s culture of death, Fox News host Jesse Watters recommended a kill shot to Dr. Fauci for his work on encouraging vaccinations. to the best of my knowledge Watters is not even being disciplined.
Now we will hear that the left is just as bad or worse.
Scott P says
Watters made those comments at Turning Point USA–the gathering of right wing Republicans where Sarah Palin said she’d never get vaccinated and encouraged others to “stiffen their spines” against those who want to stop the virus.
CG says
While there may be plenty wrong with what Watters said and how he said it, like is often the case on here, the above post is severely lacking in fact.
He was not talking about vaccinations at all but about “gain of function research” which I do not really even understand the conspiracy theory that people on the right are on with it, it is something very different.
The “kill shot” rhetoric is way out of line in my view, but of course he was not being literal, but was speaking metaphorically in regards to people asking him tough questions. When these sort of things are said on the left, people on here go to great lengths to defend them.
Zreebs says
I. Expected CG to provide a pathetic response like this.
those sort of things are NOT said on the left. Only CG goes to great lengths to pretend that Democrats do the same. So in this case, CG complains that the need for a kill shot was actually for a different reason, than the one I mistakenly gave. I was not being deliberately misleading. Sorry.
CG says
When Maxine Waters says things involving confronting political opponents, she is being figurative and should be excused for her passion but the similarly named Jesse Watters is held to a different standard.
Both Wat(t)ers are wrong and should no better, but I am the only one who seems willing to say that.
Zreebs says
Is this what is upsetting you about Waters- or something else?
https://www.businessinsider.com/maxine-waters-did-not-incite-riot-saturday-inspired-young-woman-2021-4
CG says
No, this incident in particular, although it should be noted that the Judge in the Chavin trial took issue with her comments and the potential that it had towards an appeal or mistrial.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/25/politics/maxine-waters-trump-officials/index.html
CG says
This was also out of line:
Zreebs says
A clip of the Bears game?
CG says
The announcer said that Justin Fields was dead! He was merely sacked.
Imagine someone only listening to the audio
Zreebs says
I’m pretty sure no one would have thought he was dead. You really think otherwise?
CG says
It’s a meme now…you are being very literal.
Still, it was an example of bad announcing.
And can you elaborate on why the Never Trump wing is as bad as you claimed earlier?
Zreebs says
I don’t recall what I said about GOP never-Trumpers. I think I said that Cruz would appeal to both Trumpers and the GOP Never-Trumpers.
But since you asked, The establishment GOP puts gun ownership over all other tights. It supports military excursions abroad such as Iraq that destroyed a country and killed many Americans for no valid reason. All establishment Republicans supported the Iraq war. Establishment Republicans support massive deficit spending and reallocating wealth so that the wealthy gets a greater share. After all, why shouldn’t Mitt Romney have car elevators at all of his houses? The GOP establishment wants to do nothing about global warming other than building oil pipelines over sensitive areas, subsidizing coal and let Americans pay the price later in multiple ways.
CG says
“And his mean-spirited values and tactics are in line with not only the Trump wing, but with the never-Trump wing.”
Cruz does not appeal to Never Trumpers. He did not the first time he ran.
Mitt Romney had a car elevator in his house because his wife has Multiple Sclerosis.
But ok, continue with your angry rants. The other day you were praising Cheney and Kinzinger and now the people with whom you have policy disagreements with are back to being evil.
Maybe that’s some comfort to you to hold that view.
Zreebs says
Cruz would not be the first choice of the Republican never-trumpers, but I bet at least 2/3 would vote for him.
I had not heard about that reason for the car elevator? Was the reason Romney added a second floor to the house and substantially increased its square footage was so that his wife could do more walking to get around the house?
I just replied to your question. Sorry you consider it an angry rant. I Think you are upset that I don’t see your values as morally defensible. I never have, but at some level you already knew that. There are some issues (including some of the BBB proposals that I think a strong moral case can be made for each side, but I just don’t feel that way about every issue including the ones I mentioned in the previous post.