It ain’t enough to get the money….
Democrats NEED to sell the program for ALL it’s political worth….
President Joe Biden and top officials in his Cabinet are hitting the road to promote the $1 trillion infrastructure bill passed in Congress last week, as they explain when and where Americans can expect to see some of the funds in their own communities.
White House aides are planning a bipartisan signing ceremony for the infrastructure bill as soon as this week, after it gained final passage on Friday night when Democrats who control the House of Representatives ended months of bickering and approved it…
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Biden heads to the Port of Baltimore on Wednesday to promote the infrastructure bill and will travel to places where the “need is and the action is,” Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg told the White House daily news briefing on Monday.
Buttigieg and Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm, Interior Secretary Deb Haaland, Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Michael Regan and Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo are fanning out across the country as well…
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The White House victory lap will include messages on African-American and Spanish-language media and partnering with labor unions, business groups and state and local leaders….
New Open Thread is HERE….
Good Morning All….
I fancy myself moderately progressive with somewhat an independent streak. When the likes of AOC, Omar, Cori Bush, etc were elected, I hailed that as a positive development as we need new blood in Congress. Even pulled for Nina Turner in Ohio, though that was never destined to work out. The Infrastructure bill passing solely due to the votes of Republicans crossing the aisle over the objections of aforementioned Squad members, though, buttresses the need for working with those few saner voices on the GOP side as opposed to caving to the more pie in the sky adventurers in the D Caucus. Likewise in the Senate with corraling Murkowski(maybe Richard Burr can be swayed by Biden if the President offers to have the DOJ drop the Insider Trading investigation into Senator Burr’s pre-Pandemic stock decisions) to offset the loss of either Manchin or Sinema.
And it should be said that BBB will likely also get passed, albeit by a considerably slimmer margin in bothHouse and Senate.
It’s the Economy Stupid!…but in reality…check this graph out on corporate Profits…80 year time span…so no matter who is in the drivers seat corporations are doing pretty well…
https://awealthofcommonsense.com/2021/11/the-inexorable-march-higher-in-profits/
Morning Everyone….
YES Bdog….
THAT IS the #1 Issue….
Biden and Democrats NEED to work one THAT and their ‘perception’ machine…..
Israel has said it will not approve an American consulate in Jerusalem for Palestinians – which had been brought up by Blinken.
I don’t see why so many politicians of both parties consider that apartheid state to be an ally.
Maybe the Jewish vote in America Z?
The Jewish vote is no longer a monolith; most American Jews support (as does the US government and most its allies) a two-state solution.
J Street is now as close to the American Jewish mainstream as AIPAC used to be.
Maybe not DSD on the Jewish vote
But few lawmakers dare to mess with it
Mess with what?
Morning
And Thanks to those who have served
Governor elect Youngkin lining up a bipartisan transition team.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/youngkin-virginia-transition-team-governors/2021/11/10/6e31e53a-4274-11ec-a3aa-0255edc02eb7_story.html
Moody Blues drummer and founding member Graeme Edge dies at 80.
https://www.yourerie.com/news/moody-blues-drummer-co-founder-graeme-edge-dead-at-80/
‘Knight’s in White Shadow’s’
That’s “Nights in White Satin”.
I’d always misremembered that myself as “Knights …”
He, he
Thanks DSD…….
We ARE showing our age on this one……
Did they do
‘Ride my SeeSaw’ also ?
Yes.
My first real favorite of theirs, though I remember being blown away when I was asleep with the radio on and hearing ‘Nights’ for the first time fully in a dream state. Quite something.
‘And I Love Youuuuuu….’
‘Oh how I love youuuuu”
The Moody Blues’ original version, B side of Ride My See Saw, of a song later to be a minor 70s hit for the Four Tops:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FC3Ngeqzr98
I loved the Moody Blues growing up. I had several of their albums.
Saw them back in the 70s ,then again in 1994 with a full orchestra.
Always did want to see them live, but I was too cheap to foot the concert fare. They came around the Atlanta, GA, and Greenville, SC, area at least three times in the 5 years leading up to their ceasing touring in 2018.
At least I have two expansive live CD’s of theirs, plus audio files from one concert at Red Rocks in Colorado from around the time you saw them with the orchestra.
I actually saw Jimmy Hendrix in Queens NYC
Back in the Day
‘All along the Watch Tower’ my favorite!
I Always liked the Rolling Stones over the Beatles
You could make a solid argument that their 60s material compared quite well to the Beatles in that era. The Stones’ last four decades reminds me of the old quote Billy Joel often throws at Elton John: “At least I knew when to quit making albums.”
He, he, he….
Not like fine wine, eh?
I saw Jimi Hendrix at the Atlanta Pop Festival in 1970.
He, he, he
We ARE showing our ages here….
He was an intense and gifted performer
I am familiar with that actual watchtower in Austin Texas
They are a definite ‘Holy Grail’ band for me, alongside the likes of the Beatles, Tom Petty live, ELP, and Gordon Lightfoot. And I’ve grown over the years to not really compare and contrast different music groups, so that does say a lot. I have all their LP records plus the solo and side group LP’s, which provided many a memorable trip to Antique stores and flea markets across North GA. Tuesday Afternoon, Ride My See Saw, Legend of a Mind, Lovely to See You, Floating, Story in Your Eyes, You & Me, and Your Wildest Dreams are all great classics.
Fun story(in my mind, at least): I on my last vacation heard one of their dustiest, moldiest, most obscure songs ever, one off the “Every Good Boy Deserves Favour” LP, on a low wattage and what sounded like a house run radio station around Mountain City, TN, as I was filming big road blocks on my camera. That song plus several others I heard on that rinky dink station made it onto my tentative set list for when I actually get around to cutting those road videos.
Gordon Cook evening.Lightfoot…
Haven’t heard that name in years.Saw him back in the early seventies when he did a show here in Charleston.It was really informal .He just sat there and “rapped” (that’s what they called talking back then) and played his songs.
The”cool evening” should have gone at the end of the comment.
How the word live got into the band name section of the last comment I have no idea. A strange typo, though my year old phone likes to spit some interesting stuff out.
Welcome to the club….
I just did an iPhone update….
Requires learning a new language almost!
The Moody Blues had a big come back in the summer of 1986 with “Your Widest Dreams”. I was 14 then and remember that song was everywhere.
The Moody Blues are an English rock band formed in Birmingham in 1964, initially consisting of keyboardist Mike Pinder, multi-instrumentalist Ray Thomas, guitarist Denny Laine, drummer Graeme Edge, and bassist Clint Warwick. The group came to prominence playing rhythm and blues music. They made some changes in musicians but settled on a line-up of Pinder, Thomas, Edge, guitarist Justin Hayward, and bassist John Lodge, who stayed together for most of the band’s “classic era” into the early 1970s….
More @ Wiki….
Biden to Appoint Infrastructure Chief
“President Biden plans to install a point-person in charge of infrastructure to ensure his administration properly implements its trillion-dollar legislation,“ Axios reports.
“Biden and his top aides know they need to flawlessly execute on their mammoth plan. It may be Biden’s best — and, perhaps, only remaining — opportunity to show voters Democrats can deliver major changes to improve people’s lives.”
“It’s not yet known who Biden will pick to fill the job, but if history is a guide, it will be somebody he’s known for a long time and trusts implicitly.”
(Maybe a former Democratic Governor he knows???….Who?)
Another attempt at ILLEGALITY?
Trump Claims He Has an ‘Envoy Ambassador’
Former President Donald Trump claimed in a statement his “envoy ambassador” Ric Grenell visited the Kosovo-Serbia border to highlight an agreement brokered during his administration.
I got the call on the Biden Infrastructure Czar….
Not the name…
But it WILL be Governor Mitch Landrieu, a former mayor of New Orleans and a former lieutenant governor of Louisiana, to oversee $1 trillion in infrastructure spending from the bipartisan legislation…
More…
Another ‘holy grail’ songwriter I mistakenly left out: Al Stewart
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak_MTXQALa0
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u8O4NWBYgwg
Afternoon All
For anyone interested, I will be one of eight guests on Mark Halperin’s Focus Group tomorrow (Newsmax) at 4:30pm eastern, 3:30 Central. I will also be on Halperin’s Focus Group on December 4 (for a different show with different topics) same time, although I was warned the time is subject to change.
The taping was done yesterday. I haven’t seen it yet.
How was it?
I think I did better last time than this time.
We don’t know what topics will be discussed, and when I had a chance to think about my answers, I realized I could/should have been more articulate than I was. And it is hard to listen to others, and to think about your upcoming answer simultaneously.
So right now, I’m not feeling too good about my performance, although I haven’t seen the final product yet. We’ll see what gets edited out. Last time, I thought they edited out some of my best comments.
Ya did the best U could Z…..
They keep bringing ya back….
Morning All….
Haha,
The Dog is still alive but your Party will get clobbered in 2022!
Well Look who is BACK😳
Hello Daniel…..
If CG returns to back up Daniel?
It’s ON!
(Doubtful?)
Daniel has returned.
Personally, I’d always hoped GOPBS and/or Godless Communist would find their way over here. Talk about a Truck Stop instead of St. Peter’s.
The Dog Never Quits !
The Dog Never Dies !
And there’s always Kentucky Republican. And Ragnar Danashold.
Morning Everyone
Will this be a return of the ‘Right’?
Oh Boy
Jack and Keith will have targets here
Hope all is well with ya Daniel
Hope u eill join us on the regular
We can always use a extra extra here
The rundown on Daniel, for those who’ve fallen behind…
Clinton Obama 08, then GOP in the 10 and 14 midterms with Santorum/Gingrich as a preference in 12(His Christofascist cult told him to not vote for a Mormon), then flipped back to Clinton in 16 before joining the Q-Trumps.
jamesb,
Assuming the new ABC/Washington Post Poll is correct you will have 2010 all over again.
The “Built Back Better” Bill is an absolute TRAINWRECK of a Bill. It will cost the US almost 9 Million Small Business Jobs with the hilarious bad Regulations in it. This is worse than Dodd – Frank!
I’ll do that post a bit later
Yes
Democrats ARE sucking wind off the ‘Inflation/Economy
Yes
Things do NOT look good for the midterms
But Obama got a second term
If ur giy Trump runs again?
Biden should be a lock
And if Trump runs again?
It will bring pit a MASSIVE DEMOCRATIC vote
Something for u to contemplate
While Jack’s point about Trump being the Pied Pipper still rings true for the most part
More and GOPer lawmakers are waking up from their brain washing to realize that Trump is ALSO a political liability ……
My hope os that in the coming year or two they allow him to bring their WHOLE party down with him….
The problem for Democrats is NOT gonna be ‘loser’ Trump
It will be the new and improved version like a DeSantis
Mark my words on this
I disagree with you james,
TRUMP is going to bring out the Vote on BOTH SIDES. The guy got 74 Million+ Votes, more than any other Republican Nominee in History.
Higher Turnout is no longer neccessarily an Advantage for Democrats. Look at Virginia. They had a Record Turnout Election on Nov 2. In 2017 the Turnout was 2.6 Million between Northan and Gillespie. In 2021 they had almost 3.3 Millon. Youngkin squeezed even more Votes out of Rual Southwestern Virginia than Trump did in 2016 & 2020.
Daniel….
Joe Biden BEAT Trump by 7 MILLION votes….
In Virginia?
McAuliffe had a depressed turnout with NO Trump…
LOL,
3.3 Million Votes in VA in an Off-Year Election isn’t depressed Turnout.
Read what Harry Enten said on CNN!
Daniel, just out of curiosity, where are you living these days?
Moved to Germany! We have huge Problems with COVID-19 here!
How many REGISTERED DEM’s in Virginia?
Harry Enten’s Analysis regarding Virginia
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/07/politics/turnout-republicans-analysis/index.html
The notion that high Voter Turnout is just helping Democrats is bogus.
If you look at the Counties McAuliffe carried like Fairfax, Loudoun, Alexandria, Arlington, Henrico, Richmond City, Portsmouth City, Norfolk…they all had higher Turnout compared to 2017 and he still lost.
NPR book editor Petra Mayer dies at 46 from pulmonary embolism.
https://www.npr.org/2021/11/13/1055585327/npr-books-editor-petra-mayer-has-died
BREAKING NEWS
Vermont Senator & Senate Pro Temp Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont) will make a Political Announcement tomorrow at 10am in front of the Vermont State House in Montpelier
https://twitter.com/andrewsolender/status/1459931217755885575?s=21
Good Chance Leahy is announcing his Retirement at the end of his current Term!
Morning People…..
Sesame Street is introducing a new Korean American character.. I bet some conservatives are not happy.
Especially if the character gets vaccinated.
Oh my God! Cruz will need to vacation in Cancun if such a crisis occurs.
I don’t know about the xenophobes that followed Trump into the GOP, but Cold War Republicans usually welcomed votes from Korean-Americans, just as they did those for Americans with ancestry in Viet-Nam, Cuba and Taiwan (and now those with ties to Venezuela and Nicaragua). Why do you think that “Socialism!” was such a powerful anti-Biden message in 2020?
There’s already been at least one Korean-American Republican Congressman from California.
I’ve always been a democratic socialist (or social democrat) but I can well understand the anti-Communist sentiments of those who’ve fled from Mao, the Castros, Ho Chi Minh, Hûgo Chávez, Nicolás Maduro and the Kims. (Not my comrades.)
In California, by contrast (as Keith might be able to elucidate further), Japanese and Filipino American voters tilt more to the Democrats.
Asian Americans are now tending to vote Democratic in most, but not all elections. And of course the GOP has become more xenophobic in the last few years.
https://theconversation.com/asian-americans-political-preferences-have-flipped-from-red-to-blue-145577
Tough on them Z
Breaking
Biden signs $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill, fulfilling campaign promise and notching achievement that eluded Trump….
Morning…
VERY INTERESTING POLL OUT OF WEST VIRGINIA (Senator Joe Manchins Home State)
President Biden Job Approval 33/65
Senator Jo Manchin Job Approval 61/37
Governor Jim Justice Job Approval 70/28
West Virginia Voters want to keep the Senate Filibuster in place by a wide 67/26.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/wvmetro-uploads-prod/2021/11/Polling-MBE.pdf
Looks like Manchin knows his State, Hopefully he torpedoes the BBB Crap!
Question – “Senator Joe Manchin has said he opposes President Biden’s current multi-trillion
dollar spending proposal before Congress. Senator Manchin says the country cannot afford to
spend that much money and instead favors proposals that better control government spending.
Do you agree or disagree Senator Manchin should oppose President Biden’s multi-trillion dollar
spending proposal?”
AGREE 61 / DISAGREE 37
Now we know why Manchin doesn’t want to vote for BBB!
Your problem Daniel is that in the end?
The Democratic Senator from West Virginia WILL find a way to NOT embarrass his President while cutting some of the final amendments …Biden, Pelosi , Schumer and Yes Progressives know this….
Manchin is NOT gonna sink the whole bill….
He might not sink the whole bill but it will be significantly watered down james. All this Progressive Amnesty Stuff that’s inside will be cut.
Also there are other things the Senate will have to content with. They have to continue fund the Government + raise the Depth Ceiling. Maj. Leader Schumer will have to make massive concessions to get Manchins Vote.
Manchin doesn’t care about President Biden. He cares about the Voters back home in West Virginia.
Stan Van Gundy
@realStanVG
President Trump said he would fix infrastructure and get us out of Afghanistan, but in 4 years he couldn’t get either done. President Biden has been in office less than a year and he has gotten us out of Afghanistan and signed an infrastructure bill. Talk vs. action.
Gosar Update
The House will vote Wednesday on a resolution to censure Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.) and kick him off the Oversight and Reform Committee for posting an anime video that depicted him violently attacking Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and President Biden….
The Hill…
Yes Daniel….
Sen Manchin does not have President Biden’s Political Poll numbers worries….
Covid cases are on the rise all over the country even in parts of the south where they had been declining.
Until far more are vaccinated we can expect continuing problems
Contrary to ill informed reports here, this pandemic is far from over.
Also that little myth that was floating around that Covid rises for two months ,then falls dramatically has been shown to be must just that,a myth.
The current “wave” is well into its fifth month.
Unrofortunately, since I wish it were otherwise, even Northeastern states with better compliance are seeing a rise in cases.
Rhode Island has one of the country’s highest vaccination rates (somewhere in the neighborhood of 80%), but still saw an infection rate of 5.1% yesterday.
From The Boston Globe’s RI newsletter:
Coronavirus updates
Rhode Island has a high level of transmission:
243.3 total new cases per 100K population in the past 7 days
Fully vaccinated: 752,133 (of about 1.1 million residents)
New cases: 516
Test-positive rate: 5.1 percent
Currently hospitalized: 106
Total deaths: 2,901
More stats from the R.I. Department of Health
Globe Rhode Island COVID-19 news and resources
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Leading off
Yesterday’s edition of Rhode Map focused on the good news that COVID-19 vaccination rates for nursing home staff and residents in Rhode Island are among the best in the country.
Today’s edition is a good reminder that the virus is still very much a factor for all of us.
The 516 new cases reported on Tuesday was the fourth-highest single-day total since Governor Dan McKee took office, and the most since April 9. During a press conference on Tuesday, Health Department Director Dr. Nicole Alexander-Scott also noted the state’s test-positive rate was above 5 percent, and said the increases are similar to other states in the region.
“As we move back indoors, as winter sports start to happen, we need to double down on those mitigation measures that we know work,” Alexander-Scott said.
Something to watch: Since Rhode Island started tracking COVID-19 cases, nine of the 10 highest single-day case totals came in December 2020 (the other was last November). Alexander-Scott said it’s important to continue getting vaccinated, getting tested, wearing masks, and keeping your distance from others, especially indoors.
Important context: The glaring difference between November/December 2020 and November/December 2021 is that the vaccine is now widely available, and Rhode Island is among the country’s leaders in vaccination rates.
Alexander-Scott also announced on Tuesday that everyone age 18 and older is eligible for a booster shot of the vaccine.
Yeah. I saw that Vermont had 3 deaths today, which is only remarkable because up to yesterday, they only had 395 deaths in the entire state since the start of the pandemic. Vermont has outperformed every other state in the country in controlling the epidemic.
I will also note that as the news on the virus front worsens our “virus updates” tend to disappear from the site.
I’m sure it’s a mere coincidence!
Beyond James, I’m curious if Daniel has been vaxxed. If not, I’m also curious what he’s been told about it by “authoritative” people.
My thought exactly Jack. Cases are on the rise and the virus is spiking, especially in James’ neighborhood. Time to get the vaccination James.
As far as Daniel is concerned I am sure he did what that cult Hillsong told him to do. Or is he even a member any longer now that the founder has been accused of concealing child sex offenses. Sex offenses committed by his own father.
You can’t make this stuff up.
I had forgotten that Daniel joined that cult. Maybe Daniel can comment on his status? The need to feel you belong to a group is very powerful for people who otherwise are alienated from society. I’m hoping he had the courage to leave the group,
I encounterd a few of those types back when I still has a Twitter account. Vatican City level hubris would be a very apt description. And the pictures I’ve seen used as album art on CD’s of theirs I’ve seen at Walmart gives me the creeps and smacks of something more than just mere devotion.
Marjorie Taylor Greene announced she is unvaccinated. Surprise!
And another House Democrat bites the dust.
NC-1 Rep. GK Butterfield to retire and has informed House Speaker Pelosi!
I haven’t seen anything about Matt Gaetz’s personal life in months. I must say I am disappointed as few if any politicians have such an unusual and entertaining personal life. As his new wife’s sister announced
“Matt Gaetz is creepy and weird and is a “literal pedophile”. She also wasn’t happy about Gaetz yelling at her mother.
To the best of my knowledge, his adopted son hasn’t made any news of interest lately. No more introductions by Gaetz to Fox News. What is going on? Inquiring minds want to know.
Afternoon….
Hello joke James because you are biggest joke with your leftist thinking!
Of all the regulars here, James is the most conservative.
The most conservative and unvaccinated.
Try not to confuse Daniel now Zreebs.
Joe Biden overstepped his Authority as President by issueing a Vaccine Mandate. It will get strucked down by the SCOTUS.
I am vaccinated but we shouldn’t be forcing it on other people. That’s my view on it. Every person should be able to make their own Decisions.
People should not have the right to endanger other people. The unvaccinated are a threat to us all.
If you want to complain about seat belt laws, where a parent can endanger themselves and their family because of their moral indifference, perhaps you can make a case because other drivers are not really at risk. (although I would still disagree with that logic.)
Conservatives just don’t value life. And their belief in the right to own all types of guns is another example where they put what they perceive as their personal interests among all other rights of other people. In my mind, it is part of the culture of death that conservatives believe in.
No, you belong to the culture of these leftist morons like AOC!
The issue raised is can the Labor Dept thru OSHA issue a nation wise ‘health mandate’?
Health mandates issued by Governors have been affirmed by the courts
Biden’s has an escaped clause
Testing in place of vaccine’s
BYW?
OSHA HAS rescinded its order due the court stay or its order ….backing away from earlier advice to disregard the court stay and enforce the reg….
In Red states?
The mandates are POLITICAL issues not Health issue’s
James and Faniel are similar in some ways, but not in others. To the best of my knowledge, James does not belong to a cult. Unless he states otherwise, I assume Daniel still does.
James also has some popcorn kernels worth of political principle. To put it mildly, Daniel has cycled through political principles like most people go through socks.
And I always just assumed Jimmy was a Mormon or JW, one of those door to door campaigning type groups.
I DO have political ‘principal’s’😁
They make the conversation interesting here!
I don’t recall James sharing his religious beliefs. If I had to guess, I would guess Protestant, but not an evangelical fundamentalist.
My mother was Methodist……
So you will tell us your mom’s religion, but not your religion? That is odd. Are ou unaffiliated?.
I use that as answer
I only go to church’sfor weddings
I’m not a practicing
My prayers are my own
Got it
Daniel?
You ain’t gonna sell me as a lefty here
Moderate in my mind on most things
James is as bad as JOY REID who should be thrown out in any Media Capacity. Democrats like her are Racist in my view
Comparing James to Joy Reid is as ridiculous as comparing Chris Wallace to Whoopi Goldberg.
Thanks SE
A BIT OFF THE HOOK I’d say
I seem to bring out the beast in people here
I have seriously thought about this prospect, oil companies and convenience store proprietors artificially jacking up the prices just to make Biden look bad.
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/581933-biden-asks-for-investigation-into-whether-oil-companies-are?amp
NO SHIT SE?
That woukd be AFTER make some profits like EVERYONE else off the pandemic‼️
Easy solution is that McBath runs for Governor in place of Abrams, who gears up to succeed Biden in 24.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/17/redistricting-georgia-democrats-522905
Stacey Abrams is NOT gonna be the 2024 Democratic nominee for President….
NO WAY….
Even if Biden dropped out…
She’s just a media icon …
But didn’t even mage to win the Ga Governorship, which is were she SHOULD be looking to strengthen up her resume if she actually wants to SERIOUSLY run for President…
No, Stacy Abrams, while talented, won’t be the 2024 nominee. She would have less experience than Obama, without his enormous charisma.