While Manchin is splashed across the media….
(He tends to come home in the end)
The first term Democratic Senator form Arizona, that was tight with Sen. Bernie Sanders seems to the one that is giving Democratic leaders a headache….
The decision by Democratic leaders to schedule a separate vote to raise the borrowing limit came after Senate Republicans balked at doing so as part of the stopgap spending bill, effectively stopping both measures in their tracks. It angered some moderate and conservative lawmakers in their ranks who are cold to the idea of taking a politically difficult vote to endorse more federal debt on a bill that is all but certain to stall in the Senate amid Republican opposition.
That opaqueness is now leading to open frustration among progressives and a quieter frustration among many moderate Democrats and others close to Biden’s administration.
Sinema has refused to deliver specifics about what she would like to see in a reconciliation package, and the comments that have leaked ― a resistance to any and all hikes in the corporate or personal income tax rates ― aren’t considered by her Democratic colleagues as serious starting points for negotiation. (The existing plan for the Build Back Better Act would spend roughly $3.5 trillion over a decade, raising the money from tax increases on people making more than $400,000 a year and on corporations.)
“This is basically the entire House Democratic Caucus on one side, 48 senators on one side, the president on one side, and really the obstacle is Sinema. I mean, it’s really that simple,” Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.), a progressive lawmaker, told HuffPost on Tuesday.
“The president’s leaned in on Sinema to give a number, she hasn’t. He’s leaned in on giving a framework, she hasn’t. Leaned in on discussing it in detail, she hasn’t,” he added…
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Sinema and Manchin are often paired together, but Manchin has worked with many of his Democratic colleagues for a decade or more and has consistently been there when his party has needed him. Democrats are more willing to give Manchin room to maneuver because he is a Democrat who represents an overwhelmingly Republican state.
….Ms. Sinema is facing a growing political revolt at home from the voters who once counted themselves among her most devoted supporters. Many of the state’s most fervent Democrats now see her as an obstructionist whose refusal to sign on to a major social policy and climate change bill has helped imperil the party’s agenda.
Little can proceed without the approval of Ms. Sinema, one of two marquee Democratic moderates in an evenly divided Senate. While she has balked at the $3.5 trillion price tag and some of the tax-raising provisions of the bill, which is opposed by all Republicans in Congress, Democrats in Washington and back home in Arizona have grown exasperated….
image….CNN
James continues his hatred and his disinformation campaign against Bernie Sanders.
Sienna may have started her career in the Arizona house as a progressive with Green Party support, but once she was elected to Congress she promptly joined the Conservative blue dog coalition in 1994. She has amassed one of the most conservative records among Democrats in Congress. So saying she was tight with Sanders is pure nonsense.
My mistake. Sinema entered Congress in 2012 and then joined the blue dog coalition. The rest of what I write was accurate.
Again?
Your description of my feeling about the Indie Senator from Vermont are your OWN.….
Not mine….
I do NOT hate the guy….
I just do NOT support me paying more taxes for his handing out FREE stuff…..
Simple…..
Nope, you are still confused. you support the Biden bill which increases Taxes to pay for a massive increase in governing spending. Sanders wants the wealthy to pay their fair share. Biden places a greater burden on increasing corporate taxes which are much more likely to be passed on to the consumer and people like you.
Biden taxes are aimed at HIGH earners ….
The House is NOT repealing the GOP elimination of my SALT deductions….
I am NOT confused at all…..
You seem right often be confused or lying. You have been making shit up for years. You can’t say that about anyone else on this site. Like your accusation that Sinema was tight with Sanders.
I was specifically referring to the corporate tax which is not necessarily paid by high earners. You are correct that Biden income tax increase only impacts the top 1%, but the corporate tax increase directly or indirectly impacts most people. The corporate tax might be politically popular, but If one cares about fairness, there are more effective tax increases – such as the income tax.
Z?
I pay enough fucking income tax’s
Worst?
Rich people and Big companies don’t
Worst?
They get fucking REFUNDS!
Yes. You have complained in the past that Sanders wanted to “soak the rich” and you even got praise from CG for that position. If now you want the wealthy to pay a much larger share of taxes, then you are much more allied with Sanders than your hatred of him would indicate.
Zreebs ,you are making logical points.
James isn’t a logical person.Instead, he argues on pure emotion with a dose of cynicism thrown in.
Thus,yes he theoretically agrees with Sanders on taxing the rich more,but he won’t believe that could ever happen,So that means,to him, that the benefits will flow to the laggards while he will have to pay for it because the rich will never be taxed more.
Accordingly better to oppose anything new, any changes ,because the rich just aren’t going to pay more no matter what.Thus,while he agrees with Sanders on the issue,he will still oppose him because it just can’t happen.
Confusing?Yes
Illogical?That too
But very very James like and no matter what we might think?
It makes sense to him..
He marches to his own drummer and never shall logic interfere!
Most people vote on ‘emotion’
What’s good for ‘them’
It’s human trait
If Sen Sanders wants to tax the rich and big business and NOT the middle class to get ‘free stuff’ i’ll be happy to support him!
I KNOW he wants the first thing
But the middle class taxing loses me
BYW?
Sanders is against defunding the police
I’m unaware f Sanders advocating for middle class tax increases so please enlighten us.
As “defunding the police?”
Who here has advocated that?
I notice you often throw that out there in your juvenile manner as if challenging someone here.Come on, name names.Otherwise?
Can the corn Homer.
Jack?
I HAVE pointed out such SEVERAL TIMES here
Google it……
During the campaign and at other times he advocated it……
James is just wrong about Bernie Sanders and Defund the Police.
I don’t know how James did his search, my first result on Bing for Bernie Sanders defund the police produced this result (quoting CNN) from — of all places — The New York Post (April 15, 2021). [I might add that he’s also said that he’s not for Open Borders.]
Top progressive pol Sen. Bernie Sanders is breaking with his left-wing protégés over their calls to defund the police in the wake of the killing of Daunte Wright.
Speaking to CNN Wednesday, Sanders (I-Vt.) said he did not agree with Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) over her call for “no more policing, incarceration, and militarization” after the killing of Wright, a black man who died at the hands of a white police officer.
“No I don’t,” Sanders replied when asked if he concurred with his fellow progressive, who has been joined in her calls by fellow Squad members Reps. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) and Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.).
“I think that what we need to do is to understand that there needs to be major, major police reform all across this country,” the Vermont senator continued. “We are tired of seeing the same thing, week after week and year after year. We do not want to see innocent African Americans shot in cold blood.”
“So I think that’s an area that needs significant amount of work and I hope that Congress begins work on that immediately.”…
https://nypost.com/2021/04/15/bernie-sanders-breaks-with-the-squad-on-defunding-the-police/
I rest my case…….
Good – I assume that means you are finished.
If you “rest your case”, James, in the face of FLAT and TOTAL DISPROOF, then either you have a Trumpian refusal to accept contradictory facts, you are somehow unable to understand logic, or you know you’re wrong and rest your case because it can’t be won.
I ungracefully accept your concession.
All of us here have made errors and mistakes, but if we don’t explicitly acknowledge and correct them, at least we have the grace to stay silent rather than persist promoting Error.
I say when i ‘think’ i’ve made a mistake here….
As i have said before….
Some people here when confronted with their error simply slip away…..
Frankly?
It’s not really that important to me anymore
When i offer proof?
People change lanes on me
It’s all good….
And if this is about Sanders?
People here need to get over it….
He’s not Bad or Good….
He’s just a Socialist US Senator from Vermont by way of Brooklyn NYC….
Some of his views I like…Some I don’t….
Nate Silver
@NateSilver538
I think Sinema is pretty irrational—she’s greatly increased her chance of losing a primary challenge and I don’t know that she’s helped her general election chances one bit—but one problem with a 50:50 “majority” is that one irrational actor can foil all your plans.
The US healthcare system is the most expensive on a per capita basis in the world. Yet despite how expensive it is, the US does NOT have good healthcare outcomes compared to the rest of the developed world.
There are a lot of reasons why a private healthcare system is so expensive. Under a private system, there is little standardization across companies, so Providers have to deal with multiple insurance companies who have their own unique processes and forms. Under a private system, the price includes a profit surcharge, and the CEO’s salary which can be In the millions of dollars must be paid. Of those countries that have universal care, there is no significant movement to go to a private healthcare system. For example, the Conservative Party in Canada strongly supports universal care in Canada.
Sanders only talked about a tax increase when he was asked about how he would pay for universal healthcare. He also said that the tax increase would be less than the amount that we currently pay for our private healthcare. That is not an unimportant caveat, and it is very believable. I have already paid about $10,000 out of my pocket alone in healthcare costs this year.
The Biden spending plan is more progressive than I personally would prefer. How ironic that James supports it while he aggressively attacks progressives – who are among the biggest defenders of the Biden plan.
The fact remains that private healthcare options are NOT going away…….
And?
We do in fact have ‘free’ medical programs already…..
You REALLY do NOT get it Z
I and other middle class American’s do NOT want any INCREASE in TAXES
Yes. technically, we do have free medical coverage in a way. If you do not have any money, a hospital won’t let you die. They then have to charge other people more to make up that some people don’t pay anything.
One of the Best things Biden did was to make the vaccine free for everyone. Ultimately, that actually saved a lot of money because preventative care is less expensive than care once you actually have a disease, and that is especially true in a pandemic. But right now, preventative care is not free for many things other than the COVID-19 vaccine. And that is one of the reasons healthcare is so expensive in the US and why a national healthcare program is needed.
Just because you want to pay premium dollars to buy healthcare in the private market (which probably covers less than you think) doesn’t mean that is rational that you want to pay more in insurance costs than taxes.
Or perhaps you already get Medicare and you think that only very old people and the poor should get medical care for free?
He doesn’t want the “guvmint” messing with his medicare!
Sinema is upset that Pelosi and Biden pulled the infrastructure bill…….
Interesting…….
Why?
Progressives want a BIGGER package
She does NOT
WTF would Biden and Pelosi allow her to get something ‘she’ wants that would screw them first?
She is now under pressure in Wash and back
Home…….
Manchin is NOT the issue