Unlike the Justice Dept. arrests, which number over 600 and counting….
The Commission is digging deeper into ’cause and effect’…..
Donald Trump has been able to sidestep all of the past efforts to hold him responsible for anything….
“We’re moving with great rapidity,” said Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), one of the panel’s seven Democrats and a manager of that 2019 impeachment. “We’re also going to forgo some of the time-consuming steps and where we do meet resistance we intend to push back hard and fast.”
That includes quick subpoenas. In other high-profile Trump-focused inquiries in recent years, lawmakers have taken a deliberate approach that often started with a request for voluntary cooperation and waited weeks before using compulsory means. Such a strategy was meant to guard against legal scrutiny when the subpoenas ultimately ended up in federal court.
But those tactics also enabled Trump to run out the clock on investigations that dogged his presidency, leaving Democrats empty-handed or fighting to obtain materials for years-old probes.
The Jan. 6 panel is hoping to get a boost from the Biden DOJ as it takes a more urgent tack in trying to obtain sensitive information. Where Trump’s DOJ intervened to block House inquiries — supporting executive privilege and immunity claims that Democrats viewed as outlandish — Biden’s administration has indicated it won’t stand in the way….
Select Committee Subpoenas Four Trump Aides
The Jan 6. select committee investigating the deadly Capitol riot has subpoenaed four aides to former President Trump for testimony and documents, Axios reports.
Former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, former communications official Dan Scavino, former Defense Department official Kash Patel, and former Trump advisor Steve Bannon were all in touch “with the White House on or in the days leading up to the January 6th insurrection,” the committee said in a release.
Phil Helsel
Fri, September 24, 2021, 12:51 AM·1 min read
In this article:
Joe Biden
46th and current president of the United States
Maricopa County, Arizona, said Thursday that a draft report from a company in a contentious, partisan review of November’s election has confirmed the winners.
The “draft report from Cyber Ninjas confirms the county’s canvass of the 2020 General Election was accurate and the candidates certified as the winners did, in fact, win,” Maricopa County tweeted Thursday night….
NBC affiliate KPNX of Phoenix said that it obtained a copy of the report and that the review widens Biden’s victory margin by 360 votes…..
https://news.yahoo.com/maricopa-county-draft-cyber-ninjas-041918195.html
Meaningless report. The Cyber Ninjas remain a joke, and should never be trusted.
Maybe Z…
But it WILL at least generate headaches for GOPer’s and Trump….
Maybe more….
I don’t see why?
Republicans don’t care about the truth.They will just denounce this “audit” as fake.Logic means nothing to them.
When are you ever going to understand what the Republican Party has become?
An attorney for former president Donald Trump, in a letter reviewed by The Washington Post, instructed former advisers, including Mark Meadows, Kash Patel, Dan Scavino and Stephen K. Bannon, not to comply with congressional investigators who requested documents by Thursday at midnight.
The group of former White House aides were subpoenaed by the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection last month, seeking records and testimony.
Another round of subpoenas was issued by the committee Thursday for organizers of the “Stop the Steal” rally that preceded the riot….
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Update on Trump & Co trying to duck the House Jan.6 probe…
Congress’s quest for definitive answers about what led a mob of Donald Trump’s supporters to attack the Capitol on Jan. 6 appears headed for a historic showdown between the former president and his successor in the White House.
The battle lines became more clear Friday, when President Biden rejected Trump’s request to block documents from the House committee investigating the insurrection, citing the gravity of the assault on democracy.
“The president’s dedicated to ensuring that something like that could never happen again, which is why the administration is cooperating with ongoing investigations,” White House press secretary Jen Psaki said Friday.
Trump swiftly responded by formally claiming executive privilege over about 50 documents requested initially by the select committee…
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Drama on the House floor developed when Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene confronted Reps. Jamie Raskin and Liz Cheney as the House was voting on the criminal contempt resolution against Steve Bannon.
The conversation with Greene devolved to “Jewish space lasers” and the Georgia Republican accusing Raskin, a Maryland Democrat, of not investigating the violence of Black Lives Matter protests.
“This is a joke,” Greene said in a raised voice to Raskin and Cheney, a Wyoming Republican, engaging in an altercation with the pair in the middle of the House floor….
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Post coming on this thanks DSD….
There were a few Republicans Thursday who surprised observers when they voted in support of holding former Trump adviser Steve Bannon in contempt of Congress and referring him to the Justice Department for criminal prosecution.
Prior to the vote, four Republicans were considered a lock to approve the criminal referral, according to Capitol Hill sources: Reps. Liz Cheney of Wyoming, Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, Fred Upton of Michigan and Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio.
Cheney and Kinzinger are on the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, and have for months stood alone as the only two House Republicans willing to speak out against former President Donald Trump’s continued lies about the 2020 election. They were the only two House Republicans to vote for the formation of the select committee on June 30.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi formed the select committee after Republicans rejected a bipartisan commission that would have been evenly split between five Democrats and five Republicans. Only 35 Republicans voted for that measure when it passed the House of Representatives, and it was defeated by a GOP filibuster in the Senate.
Upton has served in the House for more than three decades, since 1987, and will face a primary challenge next year because of his willingness to stand up to Trump.
Gonzalez is retiring from Congress next year, after only four years in the House. “While my desire to build a fuller family life is at the heart of my decision, it is also true that the current state of our politics, especially many of the toxic dynamics inside our own party, is a significant factor in my decision,” Gonzalez said in September when he announced he would not seek another term.
The remaining five Republicans included three who voted for impeachment — Peter Meijer of Michigan, John Katko of New York and Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington — and two House Republicans who did not vote to impeach Trump: Nancy Mace of South Carolina and Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania.
Only 10 House Republicans voted to impeach Trump in January, a week after he spoke to a crowd in front of the White House on Jan. 6, and instructed them to march to the U.S. Capitol and “fight like hell.” It was the second time Trump was impeached by the House, the first time any president in American history had been impeached twice.
The three House Republicans who had voted to impeach Trump but voted against holding Bannon in contempt on Thursday were Dan Newhouse of Washington, Tom Rice of South Carolina and David Valadao of California.
There was one House Republican who did not vote at all on Thursday: Greg Pence of Indiana, the elder brother of former Vice President Mike Pence, who was hunted by insurrectionists as they stalked through the hallways of the U.S. Capitol, egged on by inflammatory tweets from Trump himself, who blamed Pence for refusing to overturn the election. Greg Pence had voted against impeachment, against the bipartisan commission to investigate Jan. 6 and against the creation of the select committee.
Mace, who represents a moderate coastal district in South Carolina, said that she had voted for holding Bannon in contempt even though she had voted against forming the select committee because it is now a “duly formed” body. “I’m going to fight for subpoena powers … no matter who’s in power, because we’ve got to have the opportunity and the ability to investigate,” she told a Politico reporter.
Fitzpatrick represents the Philadelphia suburbs, a moderate district, and has tried to fashion a bipartisan voting record.
— Jon Ward, ·Chief National Correspondent of Yahoo! News
Thu, October 21, 2021, 6:46 PM
https://news.yahoo.com/9-republicans-voted-to-hold-close-trump-aide-bannon-in-contempt-of-congress-224650016.html
Thank You DSD
It won’t matter to the vast majority of Republicans if this committee could prove beyond any doubt that Trump himself ordered the insurrection.
They would find a way to excuse it.
The Republican Party is now largely simply an instrument to do Trumps bidding.They don’t care about the truth.Much like the Soviet Communist Party ,Republicans just wait for Trump to lay down “ the line,” then they dutifully follow.
Mussolini ha sempre raggione !
(Mussolini is always right.)
And as I said earlier to James, 202 Republicans voted against finding Steve Bannon in contempt as opposed to only 10 who did not.
Yes ,as we all know, James is obsessed with “ proving” that Trumps influence in the Republican Party is waning and he grabs ahold of any action by any Republican that smacks, even remotely , of being in opposition to Trump as a positive Reinforcement of that position.
Here, around 95% of Republican House members support letting a two bit supporter of domestic terrorism thumb his nose at the Congress of the United States in obsequious obedience to their Leadet…
Donald J Trump.
Yeah sure he’s “collapsing.”
Yes indeed DSD….
Props to those who didn’t join them….
A walk of a mile starts with one or even 9/10 steps…..
Amusingly, but uncommented on at the time, James ran an article about some anti Trump Republican group led by former NJ Governor Christie Todd Whitman where she frankly admitted that they were “ losing” the fight within the Republican Party against Trump.
James?He simply ignored that line acting as if the mere existence of the group had some significance.
James’s misreadings and deliberate attempts to find some way to change the narratives to support what he wants to believe is no longer amusing to me, and it hasn’t been for a long time.
Um, Trump is not going away silly.
I agree with Jack and Zreebs, if it isn’t Trump it will be a look alike.
No Romney light or “Logan,” it will be someone just as racist as Trump.
My only disagreement is around the edges. Jack knows the GOP has used race to motivate its base and will again. In fact, every GOP campaign for President since Ford has used some form of racist dog whistle to win.
But now that the demographics of the country are changing, they’ll be cheating too.
James needs to admit he’s wrong and get vaccinated.
Actually?
We ALL agree
No Trump should be a Trump lite
None of the anti-Trumpist would survive
But the replacement would lack certain Trump attributes….
No one here agrees with you James, you’re wrong, obsessed, and a virus spreader.
You really are a Republican!
He, he, he….
Thanks guys for the morning laughs….
Now I have more important things to do here then to listen to u two crying……
More important than being vaccinated?
You irresponsible slug!
The fact remains that there ARE Republicans who see Trump for who he is and stand up and say so…..
That REALLY is NOT complex at all😜
Isn’t that obvious? Why do you insult your readers with what everyone knows? You must be terribly insecure.
Once again ,as I e said before,you don’t even understand what has happened to the Republican Party.
You quote meaningless polls that show some 30% either oppose or have “ no opinion” as to Trump being the nominee in 2024.
Where is the followup question which should go something like this:” Assuming Donald Trump is the Republican nominee in 2024,will you vote for him?
I say that the number would be 90-95% of Republicans would answer that question,”yes.”( similiar to the number who did in 2020.
And quite obviously , as of now ,Trump will easily win the nomination in 2024 if he runs,likely with no serious opposition.
So go ahead with your “pop” analysis and your increasingly desperate efforts to convince yourself,as well as us, that Republicans are turning on Trump ,when even those few Republicans still resisting him admit they are “losing.”
Except Jack?
The 90% or even 80% are no longer mentioned….
Some polls are slightly over 50%….
Thanks for using the words…’quite likely’…..
I still think Biden would do the east against Trump himself….
But ur right is saying ‘if he runs’….
He has legal waves coming at him and of course his STRONG effort to self sabotage anything he does….
He, he, he….
We ALL are ‘pop’ analysts
James is jumbling very different statistics that he should recognize.
80-90% of Republicans would vote for Trump, even if they dislike him
80-90% of Republicans is of course different from ~50% of all voters.
538….
…A Quinnipiac University poll conducted Oct. 15-18 found Trump has an 86 percent favorable rating and just a 10 percent unfavorable rating among Republican adults. And he already dominates early polls of the 2024 Republican primary. A Morning Consult/Politico survey from Oct. 8-11 found that 47 percent of Republican voters would vote for Trump; no other candidate was above 13 percent. And while you should certainly take such an early primary poll with a grain of salt, if Trump is still polling that high come 2023, it actually bodes pretty well for his chances of becoming the nominee. Plus, given Trump’s strong influence within the GOP, few other Republican politicians would likely dare to run against him anyway.
A sizable majority of Republicans also actively want Trump to run again. By a 67 percent to 29 percent margin, Republican registered voters told Morning Consult/Politico that Trump should run again, including 51 percent who said he should “definitely” run. A HarrisX/The Hill poll from Oct. 13-14 similarly found that Republican registered voters supported a third consecutive Trump candidacy 77 percent to 23 percent, including 52 percent who “strongly” supported it. And Quinnipiac found that 78 percent of Republicans would like to see Trump run again, and only 16 percent would not…
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Morning Consult hasn’t found as much support for Trump as Quinnipiac, but in their most recent poll, 63 percent of Republican registered voters said a major role, 19 percent said a minor role and 13 percent said no role. That’s slightly up from 59 percent who wanted him to play a major role in February (when 18 percent said minor role and 17 percent said no role). However, not every pollster agrees that Republicans’ appetite for more Trump has increased: HarrisX/The Hill found virtually no change from their Nov. 17-19, 2020, survey….
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Despite Republicans’ enthusiasm for a Trump comeback, however, the American electorate as a whole is much cooler on the notion. The latest HarrisX/The Hill poll found that registered voters overall opposed Trump running again, 53 percent to 47 percent. Independents were against the idea 58 percent to 42 percent. The margin was even wider according to Morning Consult/Politico (59 percent to 35 percent, with independents opposed 58 percent to 30 percent) and Quinnipiac (58 percent to 35 percent among both independents and adults overall). Quinnipiac also offered some more inauspicious numbers for the ex-president, such as his 39 percent to 52 percent overall favorable/unfavorable ratings and the fact that Americans felt, 51 percent to 41 percent, that he has had a mainly negative impact on American politics….
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(The piece in fact shows trump at a high of 86% among GOPer’s in one poll and respondents at a low of 63% in none poll AMONG Registerd GOPer’s wanting him to run again….That is a more than 20% difference in not ONE poll but several….
I KNOW Jack thinks the guy rates as the second coming for Republicans…But I will continue to show that THAT just isn’t the case so simply…It’s is as I would say….’More COMPLEX’…There ARE GOPer’s with doubts or just aren’t answering the questions truthfully as Jack might think….)
This insurrection, that James told us was in the rear mirror, was a practice session for when the Republicans will try to take the government by force.
It was their beer hall putsch only I think those assholes we’re drinking Red Bull on the 6th.
I saw the piece on the practice for coups
Other places there is no second chsnce
You saw a “piece,” did you bother to read it?
The Putsch was Hitler’s first attempt at seizing power, he succeeded on his second attempt.
So yes, there are second tries. You are amazingly ignorant James.
I repeat
AND ADD
MOST coups do NOT succeed
And
Those who try first ?
usually do not get a second chance
In addition?
America is WELL AWARE of the efforts Trump has promoted and has his followers emulating and of which at 600 have been arrested for trying….
My i remind u that in addition to the 600?
Joe Biden IS PRESIDENT
AND
Georgia has TWO DEMOCRATIC US Senator’s….
Democracy IS holding its own
Only in THIS country can a asshole who lost and lost trying to steal an election have millions of knuckleheads still kissing his deranged ass….
A America!?
Whoa there …
Let’s put this blame squarely where this belongs…
The Republican Party
I suppress the thought because it is so absolutely terrifying — but it’s entirely possible that an oppressive GOP (very similar to the Southern Democrats of old) could perpetuated its hold on power indefinitely against the will of a clear majority of Americans.
As with the beer-hall putsch and the Kapp putsch in (and against) Weimar Germany, the first attempt in the U.S. involved mass violence, but final victory may come not so much by violence (freelance or under color of law) as by corrupting, subverting and manipulating the existing constitutional democratic-republican structure that protects us and has done so at least since the civil and voting rights acts of 1964-65.
The currently polarized and non-proportional Senate, plus the filibuster, gives greatly disproportionate power to 18 or 20 Red States that have only a fraction of the population. A similar, but less-extreme, imbalance in the Electoral College delivered the presidency to Republicans who came second in the popular vote, not once but twice in the last third of a century.
What has always been a potential threat of a reactionary and collusive Supreme Court [not a popularly-elected body] is much closer to reality, given the way the GOP shameless manipulated three of the last four nominations.
And now the whole apparatus and procedure of fair elections is under relentless attack: voting rights, easy access to the ballot box, the independence and integrity of nonpartisan or bipartisan state and local election boards. Some GOP legislatures have given themselves the right to decide elections whose results they dislike.
And, for national office [and I presume for some state offices], the simple mechanics of counting and certifying votes is under attack as happened on Jan. 6th.
What makes this even scarier is the construction of an entire alternate universe, for tens of millions of minds, of misinformation, myth, superstition, bigotry and distrust of constitutional or scientific authority — where what you want to believe is truer than facts.
I still believe that the worst won’t come, and that Trump will not triumph during his active lifetime, but there’s an awful lot of repair and consolidation that democratic forces need to achieve. The miserable, craven cowardice and pandering of the overwhelming majority of Republican officials is hurting rather than helping to defend democracy and freedom.
I would not assume that a likely Trump successor like Desantis, Cruz, Hawley etc would be any different from Trump.
Presumably these people wouldn’t have thought to act as Trump has in the pre Trump era ( prior to 2016).
However ,now that they’ve seen how Republicans have overwhelmingly reacted favorably to Trump and his anti democratic moves? I see all of them and many more as the Trumps of tomorrow.
The Republican Party has fundamentally changed and it’s past time everyone realizes it.
Anyone other than Trump would off course use Trump’s playbook….
He, he, he
Well ALL KNOW THAT Jack!
The problem for them running against Biden might be that they actually do NOT live entirely in Trump’s alternate universe ….
In addition?
If Trump does NOT run?
The media will be crying their hearts out and probably working FOR Biden by continually comparing them to Trump….
I’m still hoping Biden doesn’t run. I don’t have have a preferred candidate to replace him, but I think Biden is a weak candidate. He always was – going back decades. With that said, I easily prefer him over almost every potential Republican candidate.
He ran good AGAINST Trump…..
BECAUSE of Trump….
I would think he’d be that way AGAIN….
So far?
Yes….
Joseph R. Biden seems unimpressive …
But I too would have NO problem voting for him AGAIN if need be….
Interesting, we see no polls asking Democrats would they prefer Biden as their candidate in 2024 or somebody else(as we have seen with Trump).
My view is that such polls would show that Bidens numbers among Democrats are probably similar to Trumps among Republicans.
Once again ,and as usual ,you don’t understand what’s happened to the Republican Party .
“Trumps playbook” as you call it is now essentially the Republican Party.
And anyone who deviates from it in the least will be immediately designated a RINO .
There ARE those who do NOT go ‘along’…
May not be many….
BUT…
Their numbers ARE increasing….
Who cares?
The Party remains dominated by Trump and his supporters ,your insistence to the contrary notwithstanding.
One of the best known Never Trumpers Adam Kinzinger is apparently being thrown into a Democratic leaning district, making his political survival.problematic .
For what they’re worth, trends against Trump (if not Trumpism) from Rich Lowry, chief editor of National Review, who has been quite anti-Trump but not quite Never Trump (forced against his will to choose between Trump and Biden, he said he’d probably vote for Trump).
I don’t find Lowry’s points below to be decisive, or that they give solid support to James’ prediction of a Trump eclipse, but some of them are possible. Even then, we might face Someone Even Worse (all the more dangerous because he or she might be more competent and less flighty).
¶ …. there are reasons to believe Trump’s dominance is exaggerated and that it is slowly degrading, such that by the time the 2024 Republican primaries roll around, he’ll be challengeable and beatable if he runs.
It’s not unusual for a former president to own his party until someone comes and takes it from him — Bill Clinton prior to Barack Obama, for example.
What’s different is that parties typically aren’t kind to one-term presidents who lost their reelection bids, and generally former presidents aren’t so bent on exercising control over their parties once they vacate the White House.
Part of the reason Trump has clung to his fanciful stolen-election narrative is to avoid the stench of defeat of Jimmy Carter and George H. W. Bush. On top of this, Trump has an intact political operation that is paying a lot of attention to his potential endorsements and how they will or won’t enhance his own power.
This obviously makes Trump an important player, and maybe more. But there are indications of an undertow and factors that might increase it in the years ahead.
Trump’s media footprint is much reduced. Data from SocialFlow shows engagement with Trump stories plummeting in March of this year, and it took another jag down in August and September.
As for Trump’s polling numbers, Republicans might tell pollsters they want him to run again as a way to stick a finger in the eye of the media or as a general statement of warm feelings toward him. Even if these findings are based on entirely forthcoming and sincere sentiments, wanting Trump to run is a threshold question that falls short of a commitment to vote for him two and a half years from now.
Trump presumably will be vulnerable to electability questions. He lost last fall in part because Biden outperformed Hillary Clinton among suburban voters and independents. Biden is alienating these voters, but there’s nothing to indicate that Trump has done anything since November 2020 to make himself less repellent to them.
GOP politicians have every reason to do what they can to keep Trump and his voters on board in the interest of a unified base in the run-up to the 2022 midterms. But if Republicans take Congress next year and are worried about keeping it in 2024, they will be wary of once again needing candidates to run better than Trump in swing districts to keep their gavels.
Trump has an increasingly self-referential message. In 2016, he talked of fighting for his voters and hammered neglected issues of concern to them, foremost among them trade and immigration. Now, he urges those voters to fight for him based on the imperative of denying his loss, which is of overwhelming concern to his ego and continued political viability.
At the end of the day, what primary voters in both parties most want is to win. And this is Trump’s true Achilles’ heel. The fact is that he lost to Joe Biden and, despite last-minute changes in election procedures and the media and social-media landscape being stacked again him, it was fundamentally his doing.
His chief vulnerability is that, eventually, someone will put this to him directly, and it will land.
Perhaps if Trump decides to make the plunge in 2024, he will clear the field and sweep to his third consecutive GOP presidential nomination. His surface-level strength at the moment, though, might obscure a weakness that will tell over time.
— By RICH LOWRY
October 22, 2021 6:30 AM
© 2021 by King Features Syndicate
https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/10/is-trumps-power-over-his-party-fading/
In other words Lowery , who has a vested interest in seeing Trump collapse( he’s bad for business over at National Review where “conservatism” is supposed to be about “ideas” of which Trump has few ) says he might!
Wow!Thats enlightening!
Lowery of course wants to believe that if Trump could just be eliminated,then the Republican Party will return to the way it was in 2012 or so with reasonable types like Romney heading the ticket.
The reality though is that almost all those mentioned as alternatives to Trump are merely another version of him.
Where’s the Romney type among the 2024 aspirants?
The problem is that Trump tore the bandage off the Republican Party which for years have covered up the Right Wing nutjobs and goofballs and now made them part of the process.
Whereas a Romney could ignore the kooks ,knowing that he would get their votes because at least he wasn’t one of “ them libruls,” these types have now been empowered by Trump and his would be successors well understand that they must be appealed to and courted and the roles are reversed.
Now,Republican types who read Lowery and the National Review, are in the role of the kooks circa 2012.The Trumpified candidates no longer have to appeal to them ,knowing that in the end(ala Lowery with Trump) they will vote for them because at least they aren’t “libruls.”
The Trump Republican Party 2021
Romney or Logan types will NOT be the choice as WE ALL KNOW…
I don’t know who Logan is and I never said anything about Romney being a candidate.
Another example of your inability to comprehend rather simple posts.
And your general nonsense.
FYI…..
Lawrence Joseph Hogan Jr. (born May 25, 1956) is an American politician serving as the 62nd Governor of Maryland since 2015. A member of the Republican Party…
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Right before our weary and weepy eyes, Larry Hogan, the reputedly moderate Maryland governor and Never Trumper, turned himself into the kind of Republican he knows he needs to be to win the 2024 presidential nomination of his Trumpified party. Hogan, the self-styled champion of bipartisanship, will play as nasty as the rest to establish his right-wing bona fides….
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Love ya Jack!😊