The Hill does a piece on Vice President Harris that seems to show a person having issues finding a place in the Biden admin and a national political identity ….
She was supposed to be a major player in the Biden administration after being lauded as an historic, consequential figure in her role as America’s first female vice president.
“Harris Has the Potential To Change the Face of U.S. Politics,” read a November 2020 Politico headline that echoed many others at the time. And not long after Joe Biden was sworn in as the nation’s 46th president, the administration insisted she should be known as her boss’s equal.
“Please be sure to reference the current administration as the ‘Biden-Harris Administration’ in official public communications,” a March directive read, emphasizing Biden-Harris in boldface.
Kamala Harris may have crashed and burned as a 2020 presidential candidate, dropping out well before the first votes were cast in Iowa. But Biden chose her as his running mate anyway. It’s not clear exactly what Harris brought to the ticket outside of checking off a few demographic boxes.
Foreign policy credentials? Nope. Business experience? None. A track record of working with Republicans to pass important legislation? Not even close. In fact, an analysis by the non-partisan GovTrack showed that she was the most liberal member of the Senate, even further to the left than democratic socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)….
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If the White House thinks its strategy of keeping Harris out-of-sight, out-of-mind is working, they should think again. Because we haven’t seen vice presidential approval numbers this low so early in an administration since Dan Quayle under George H.W. Bush.
A recent USA Today/Suffolk University poll, for example, has the vice president at 35 percent approval, 54 percent disapproval. Just seven months in, Harris is 19 points underwater. And this is someone who more than a few in the D.C. chattering class hailed as the 2024 Democratic nominee-in-waiting.
With numbers like these, it’s very hard to see Harris becoming the nominee. …
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The piece seems like it could have been in a Republican media home…
But it DOES make a point….
Right now?
Kamala Harris would be a hard choice for Democrats in 2024 if some reason Joe Biden wasn’t gonna seek a second term…
Just saying ?
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If Biden doesn’t run again ,I would anticipate numerous candidates to step forward.
Harris would just be one of many.
There’s some internal debate as to how strong a candidate she’d actually be, with many party polls actually showing her favorability ratings underwater. Don’t know how true that is, but definitely concerning if so.
Personally, if Biden doesn’t run again, I guarantee a ticket of Liz Warren and NC Governor Roy Cooper constitutes their strongest bet. There is scant room for error in the next Presidential race.
At this point, I don’t think Harris is a strong candidate. Too early to say who is the strongest. I would prefer it not be Biden.
He might just be the strongest bet in 24. One thing that springs to mind is that Biden is the closest America has to a Ben Franklin figure. And that is to say nothing of his electoral success last go around in the Sun Belt.
Apart from Biden and Warren/Cooper, the only other prominent names with good prospects that spring to mind is Kyrsten Sinema and Mark Kelly from AZ and CT Governor Ned Lamont. Perhaps also if actor Matthew McConaughey runs and wins as a D in Texas.
James’ suggestion below of Blinken is ridiculous. Lloyd Austin would be a better option of the Cabinet officials.
In retrospect, Biden was the Dems strongest candidate in 2020 largely because he didn’t have to campaign and greet people. Biden Isn’t good at that, but because of COVID-19, giving speeches and campaigning in 2020 wasn’t important.
I disagree SE
Biden was the anti-Trump
Sincere
Gave a Shit
Right now?
He’s suffering for the right decision done in haste
U tell he’s suffering cause he cares
Trump STILL don’t give a damn and is going straight politics
The MORE Trump is pushed up in the media?
The BETTER Biden could be i think
Blinken as a choice IS ridiculous….
I was just playing on the linked piece
Trump’s attack on him writes itself: ” What did he do when the Taliban came for our Afghans? He blinked! I won’t blink, I never blinked a day in my life.”
Uh you do understand that Biden was in essence carrying out Trumps plan to withdraw from Afghanistan .
If the point is that Republicans lie and actually like lying and that Trump will lie and the Republicans will cheer him on?
Then yeah that’s likely.
U DO think Biden is. Gtown man that can think for HIMSELF and change things?
As he HAS dine numerous times
At what time this afternoon is The President addressing The Nation?
2:45 i believe Biden speaks DSD
Reality doesn’t matter in campaigns. I am aware of the actual facts, but that won’t matter when Trump is slinging his arrows.
So far?
Sen Warren seems marginalized…..
Sen. Sanders with a committee chair has more juice…..
Progressive candidate will NOT be the nominee….
No Biden i agree would leave the field WIDE OPEN……
Harris was tagged as this so far in last years primary race….
She just is a bit off politically
Maybe she can recover
Who knows?
President Blinken?
Huh?
Perhaps Chelsea Clinton emerges as a compromise choice in ’24?
Clinton name is STILL toxic
GOPer’s would be squeezing themselves in joy
A target rich enviroment!
I never thought that Kamala Harris was a particularly strong candidate for either President or (demographics aside) Vice President.
Outside the narrow and insulated confines of the District Attorney’s and California Attorney-General’s offices, she has no executive experience and only four years’ record in the U.S. Senate.
Although this may be more personal to me, I never liked her prosecutorial style that much, either.
And there’s the old saw of both history and recent history working against Vice Presidents ascending by election (rather than accidental succession) directly to the Presidency. Never happened between Martin Van Buren (1836) and George H.W. Bush (1988), and hasn’t happened since. [Bush and Van Buren, by the way, like John Adams, were defeated for re-election.]
However, Richard Nixon (1960), Hubert Humphrey (1968), and Al Gore (2000) all failed, although narrowly.
At the time, I had thought that Biden whiffed the VP selection by not picking a more solid, game changing option like Tammy Duckworth. I did not think Harris’ prosecutorial record would play well with minority groups, both younger peoples who tend to sit out elections and older peoples who were more primed than usual to buck the system and vote Trump. As it usually turns out, the election was largely a top ticket affair.
Granted, no matter which lady Biden chose, people around my area would still be wearing those ridiculous ‘Joe & the H03 Gotta Go’ hats. “Christians” do have a special way of being dehumanizing…
Of course they would! Republicans like my uncle were wearing “No Fritz and Tits” ball caps in 1984.
Duckworth being a veteran wouldn’t have stopped these bigoted misogynists.
With Sen. Duckworth, they probably (like schoolyard bullies following the Bully-in-Chief) would also be unable to resist the gorgeous opportunity to mock her disabilities gained in defense of their country.
Funny thing: I don’t remember similar taunts being levelled at John McCain’s female running-mate Sarah Barracuda, although she did leave herself wide open to mockery on other grounds. Probably the worst (from Democrats and her GOP critics) were dark mutterings about trailer-park trash.
Of course, were CG still contributing (I’m sure he’s silently lurking about our must-read exchanges), he’d try to come up with all kinds of counter-examples. a few of them even relevant ones.
I thought Kobachar would have been better…
The rumour was she was close to being the choice….
But again….
A ‘Black’ (mixed) Woman was a twofer……
Exactly my thoughts at the time, James, although perhaps looking back, Amy Klobuchar might not have been so strong a choice for winning the election.
She wouldn’t have excited the base so much, and — although this is great once in office — she might have added too little contrast to the ticket (what did Tim Kaine really add to the Clinton-Kaine ticket?)
If u remember here i NEVER thought Harris would be picked by Biden after she turned so hard on him in the debates
Some one had Jill Biden cursing her out for getting in her husbands ‘grille’
But picking her was a wise move ‘politically’
A Black a East Asian ‘Woman’!
They have time to rehabilitate her ‘brand’
Bit if she’s in this place in the polls come mid-2023?
People gonna looking to replace her and THAT WILL piss Blacks and Women off and THAT is gonna be a BIG MESS for Dem’s for November 2024 that will not need…..
I just hope they work on this
Yeah this whole discussion is pretty silly.
Almost as inane as a thread on Dave Leips Election Atlas forum positing if Biden will drop Harris from the ticket in 2024 for Eric Adams.
Speculation about whether (a) the VP will be on the re-election ticket and (b) will the VP run for President at the end of the first term is so standard as to be entirely predictable.
The last time a sitting Vice President was dropped from a re-election ticket was in 1944, when the incumbent VP Henry A. Wallace was replaced as FDR’s running mate by Sen. Harry Truman.
Thomas Marshall in 1916 and James Sherman in 1912 did run for re-election with their respective Presidents (Wilson and Taft).
Before that, however, it was just as common for the relatively-rare re-election campaign to have a non-incumbent running-mate (sometimes because the VP died during his first term), with some exceptions such as Washington-Adams (1792), James Monroe-Daniel Tompkins (1820) and Martin Van Buren-Richard Johnson (1840).
John Adams (1800), Thomas Jefferson (1804), James Madison (1812), John Q. Adams (1828), Andrew Jackson (1832), Abraham Lincoln (1864), Ulysses Grant (1872), Grover Cleveland (1888), Benjamin Harrison (1892) and William McKinley (1900) all ran for re-election with different vice-presidential candidates.
But despite the predictable and almost-compulsory speculation, no President since FDR has dropped his VP when running for re-election:
Eisenhower-Nixon (1956), Nixon-Agnew (1972), Carter-Mondale (1980), Reagan-Bush (1984), Bush-Quayle (1992), Carter-Mondale (1996), Bush-Cheney (2004), Obama-Biden (2012) and Trump-Pence (2020).
The costs of dropping your running-mate have just outweighed the speculative benefits in each of those re-election campaigns.
On the one hand, there might be a stronger 2024 candidate for VP than Kamala Harris; but on the other hand dropping her would certainly disrupt the party and probably disaffect more voters than it would please. That doesn’t mean she would be the strongest candidate for President should Joe Biden not run in 2024.
Harris has the spot unless she REALLY continues to bomb in the polls and is seen as a drag on Biden…..
I forgot one rather special case which isn’t particularly relevant (as if any of this idle chatter is):
Gerald Ford appointing Nelson Rockefeller as his VP in 1974, but running to be returned (not re-elected) in 1976 with Bob Dole. That was 45 years ago.
“Silly “is the word.