Well?
Maybe?
Rolling Stone is reporting that the Big Guy has told several people he WILL run…
But?
The people he has told are NOT completely sure a guy who lies at will is actually telling the truth ….
They think he could be just trying to keep the spotlight on himself….
Brace yourself: Donald Trump plans to run for president again.
At least that’s what the former president is telling his dinner buddies.
Trump has told at least three people he’s dined with in recent months that he plans to run in 2024, a former senior official at the Republican National Committee tells Rolling Stone. “I have three friends who’ve had dinner with him in the last couple of months. All three reported that his current plans are to run for president in 2024,” the former R.N.C. official says. “Now, whether he does or not is a different issue. We’ve still got three years to go. But he’s telling people that.”
The ex-R.N.C. official says the first two dinners took place in late spring. But the third dinner happened in the last two weeks, the official said. The first two dinner companions came away from their conversations convinced Trump was serious and he’s running, the official adds. The third said he left the dinner “not 100% sure Trump wants to run but he likes being in the conversation, he wants to freeze the field, and he wants his name out there,” according to the ex-R.N.C. official….
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For now, Trump is seemingly having it both ways. By telling his friends that he plans to run and not officially declaring, he can continue to raise funds through his PAC without the restrictions of an official candidacy. The ex-R.N.C. official says such talk could also freeze the field of Republican presidential contenders. That field includes Mike Pompeo, Trump’s former CIA director and secretary of state; Nikki Haley, Trump’s former ambassador to the United Nations; Florida Gov. DeSantis; and U.S. senators like Tom Cotton of Arkansas and Josh Hawley of Missouri.
The ex-R.N.C. official says it’s expected that Trump’s camp wouldn’t respond to questions about what he’s telling his associates regarding 2024. “If they didn’t want that information out there, they’d respond and call it fake news,” the official says. “If they did say yes, then they’d trigger the campaign-finance laws and the clock starts ticking.”
There are, of course, plenty of reasons why he won’t end up running: his old age, say, or the potential legal jeopardy he faces through his now-indicted company. But if the last six years have taught us anything, what fuels him is the attention of the media and adulation of his supporters. …
One things for sure.
The idea that he is going to “fade away” is ludicrous.
Whether he runs or not,Trump will be THE major factor leading up to the 2024 campaign.
Trump IS fading away….
Proof?
His jawboning he’ll run….
I hope ur right Jack….
The party led by a ‘Loser’ is just what Democrats need!
james is saying the quiet part aloud.
Yes Indeed…..
James is the only Democrat I personally know who wants Trump to get the GOP nomination in 2024, but he like CG typically sees issues in very simple terms. So it doesn’t surprise me that they are using the same logic here too.
Z?
DeSantis IS a STRONGER challenge for Biden
It actually is pretty simple. Partisan Democrats want to give themselves the best chance of winning. That would be Trump.
So who can blame them?
It’s easier to blame us than to face rhe fact that in 2021 Trump is selling what the majority of Republicans want to buy.
Nobody is “blaming” you but it is hard for you to ignore the reality that you see your side benefiting from it and are thus acting in ways to maximize the benefit.
I understand and do not begrudge the mindset of “it’s not our problem” (putting aside the fact that it may in some ways be America’s problem and the world’s problem in a macro-sense), but the more he is treated as the dominant opposition force, the more emboldened your opponents will be to back him. That is how politics works.
I wish Trump, Trumpites and Trump toadies any luck at all.
The worse the better has usually proven to be a disastrous strategy (even if Gray Davis used it in the election before his recall).
Stalin said, “in reality, Fascism and Social-Democracy are not opposites, but twins” and the German Communists did a great deal to sabotage the Social Democratic Party of Germany in the late twenties and early thirties. They got their wish: Hitler did triumph over the traditional Right, the Centre, and the Centre-Left, only to shut down the Communists, Socialists and trade unions, putting most of their leaders and activists into concentration camps.
Less tragically, California Democrats were overjoyed when Ronald Reagan (the most conservative, and in their eyes the weakest choice) won the June 1966 Republican gubernatorial primary over the more-moderate former Mayor of San Francisco, George Christopher. Come November, Reagan trounced incumbent Dem. Gov. Edward G. “Pat” Brown, Sr., winning re-election four years later.
I’d be delighted in the highly-unlikely event that a true No-Trumper were to win the 2024 GOP nomination, even if he were harder for Biden to beat.
OOPS !!
“I wish Trump, Trumpites and Trump toadies
anyNO luck at all.”Not to put too fine a point on it DSD but by including “Trumpites and “Trump toadies” in your wishing for”no luck at all?”
You’ve included about 98% of the Republican political class in this country.
Do you seriously believe ,as of now, that the Republican Party would dare nominate for President in 2024 an anti Trumper or anyone that Trump objected to?
No, Jack,
I’m just responding to CG’s obsession that Democrats secretly want Trump or someone as extreme as Trump to continue dominating the GOP because that somehow that makes it easier to elect Democrats in 2022 and 2024
It’s not really a “sccret.”
I have said that I will take Zreebs at his word that he does not want that and since DSD is (presumably by choice) not a voter, and thus not an actual Democrat, I will take him at his word too.
But the overall point stands.
Paul Farhi
@farhip
Not an historian but feel safe in saying that there has never been an ex-president who got as much public/media attention six months after leaving office as Trump.
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Mike Patenaude
@gay_lussac
Replying to
@farhip
To be fair, most ex presidents deliberately fade away and get themselves out of the spotlight. Trump is actively doing the opposite. Also, most former presidents don’t retain a stranglehold on their party after leaving office.
Noted DSD…..
Well if the above ain’t “proof” that Trump is “fading away?”
I don’t know what is!
Trump’s words and actions in 2021 suggests that he will run again in 2024. But 2024 is still a ways away, and lots will happen in the next two years that will impact Trump’s decision.
I disagree on him actually running Z….
While he would like it?
I simply do NOT see him wanting to go thru an actual run….
Especially with what is coming his way in the courts and media….
I think he’ll want to be the ‘King Maker’….
Trying to pull the puppet strings like he is doing now…
Right now Anti Trump Republicans main strategy seems to be to simply hope he doesn’t or can’t run again and the party just reverts to how it was pre 2015
Not a good strategy if you ask me. .
But then again why the hell do I care what happens to the GOP.
The reason you should care is that some kind of effective, responsible opposition party (or parties) are necessary for almost any kind of democratic government.
A quarter-century in the wilderness, essentially confined to one region and some big cities, did not improve the Democratic Party during six successive Republican presidential terms from 1861 to 1885.
Abandoning black support to the Party of Lincoln, the Democrats stayed incredibly racist. Without some reasonable hope of national power, an opposition party can become very impractical and irresponsible since it it won’t reach much beyond its geographical, ethnic, ideological or class base.
[On the other hand, Republicans did learn some lessons from their twenty years out of power from 1933 to 1953. One could hope that the current GOP would follow that example.]
Of course, I might wish that the opposition party was on the democratic left, e.g. Socialist or Green, or that there were opposition parties at both ends as in Canada (with the Liberals wedged between the Conservatives and the New Democratic Party).
Of course I want Trump to go away forever. But what I or any other Democrat “wants” means shit to the rank and file Republican voters who right now would nominate Trump if he runs.
Pure superstition to think otherwise.
I don’t think DJT is going away unless they put him away by the law or DeSantis or someone else
Pit maneuvers him with the base….
The later is not now yet….
Trump is like the Covid virus. As long as he is breathing, he is never going to completely go away, but both parties, and the media, can significantly weaken him by political vaccination efforts.
It makes sense that Democrats do not want this to happen, as demonstrated by james saying the quiet part aloud and all the attention that the left continues to want to bestow upon him.
The media is already cutting his wings……
Which is why O’Reilly is going after the Politico guy……
Trump is and aways will be N entertsiner trying to make money
No more
No less
I believe it when some said he hated being President with the constraints and the BIG number of people he had to deal with..
I just do NOT believe he wants all that back
Me?
I think he’ll just be a outsider as he’s always looked at himself to be…
Remember
Trump’s OVERALL poll numbers are in the garbage…
Shoe’s gonna keep dropping…
— The chair of former President Donald Trump’s 2017 inaugural committee was arrested Tuesday on charges alleging that he and others conspired to influence Trump’s foreign policy positions to benefit the United Arab Emirates.
Thomas Joseph Barrack, 74, of Santa Monica, California, was among three men charged in New York federal court with trying to influence foreign policy while Trump was running in 2016 and later while he was president.
Matthew Herrington, an attorney for Barrack, did not immediately return an email seeking comment. Barrack was due to appear at an initial appearance in federal court in Southern California….
AP
True patriots, all (to Russia, Turkey, the UAE, … )
But if Donald Trump is serving out his second presidential term right now, how does he qualify for a third under the 22nd Amendment?
He, he, he….
Good One DSD!….
But he don’t need the ‘rules’….
Just lies his way thru…
(It don’t work on the judges, though )
But can’t get past a certain point no matter HOW HARD he tries!…
Sorry assed knuckleheads have gotten arrested for his bullshit which WILL continue till the end….
Get ready for Tom Brady to be hated by the GOP