Donald Trump LOST his job
Millions of Americans voted him out of office
Members of his party, under pressure, did NOT try to illegally keep him in office
The ex-us President still seems unable to accept his loss
So?
He continues to travel the country lying and trying to bend history to fit what he would have liked to have happen to have kept him in office
The sad part is how many millions accept his lies….
Doyle McManus: “Eight months after he lost convincingly to President Biden, Trump and his followers are studiously maintaining an alternative reality — and having remarkable success keeping the fiction alive.”
“Almost two-thirds of GOP voters told pollsters in one recent survey that they’re still convinced the election was stolen — a number that hasn’t changed much since November.”
“This isn’t a harmless exercise in political puffery; it deepens the polarization of American politics and weakens democracy. The charge that the election was stolen doesn’t merely flatter Trump; it’s also an attempt to delegitimize Biden.”
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New Open Thread is HERE!
Former President Donald Trump made one of his first public appearances since leaving office (at least outside his rallies) on Saturday at UFC 264, and the reaction was about what you would expect at a UFC event.
Trump was seen walking onto the floor of T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas during the main card, headlined by Dustin Poirier against Conor McGregor. The former president saw a reception not unlike his last appearance at a UFC event: loud cheers mixed in with some audible boos….
https://sports.yahoo.com/ufc-264-former-president-donald-trump-appearance-055212196.html
‘That’s Entertainment’‼️
It is beautiful and exciting to see pro-freedom protestors taking to the streets in Havana. Godspeed to them.
Morning All
Adviser to Pro-Trump Group Also Runs Racist Newsletter
The Informant: “An advisor for the influential conservative youth organization Turning Point USA recently published an essay for subscribers of his personal newsletter that, among other things, said Black people have ‘become socially incompatible with other races’ and ‘American Black culture has evolved into an un-fixable and crime-ridden mess.’”
“It also said white people aren’t racist but ‘just exhausted’ with Black people. It portrayed post-Civil War America as a 150-year-long ‘experiment’ to see whether Black people could be ‘taken from the jungles of Africa,’ enslaved, and then integrated into a majority-white society. It said that experiment had failed.”
Morning people….
Jeff Flake Nominated Ambassador to Turkey
President Joe Biden nominated former Jeff Flake Nominated Ambassador to Turkey
President Joe Biden nominated former Sen. Jeff Flake, a Republican lawmaker who endorsed his 2020 run for the White House, to serve as U.S. ambassador to Turkey, the Associated Press reports. Sen. Jeff Flake, a Republican lawmaker who endorsed his 2020 run for the White House, to serve as U.S. ambassador to Turkey, the Associated Press reports.
Politicalwire
Anti-Trumpists ARE. Getting government jobs
Exactly two thus far? Jeff Flake and Cindy McCain for minor Ambassadorships
Wow.
I ran across this if anyone wants to check it out…..
HE BIG IDEA
Opinion | The Democrats Need a Reality Check
They have a majority coalition. They control the White House. But the Democrats are trapped in delusions of rewriting the rules, while the GOP figures out ways to bend them…
More @ Politico
Morning People…….
Iranian intelligence agents plotted to abduct an Iranian American journalist living in Brooklyn and take her to the Middle Eastern country, possibly via a daring maritime evacuation, the Justice Department alleged in an indictment unsealed Tuesday.
Four Iranians were charged in federal court in Manhattan with conspiring to kidnap Masih Alinejad, an exiled journalist and women’s rights activist who has long been critical of the regime in Tehran. Alinejad was not identified by prosecutors, but she confirmed on Twitter that she was the intended target….
More…
Media excited
FBI takes a hit
Breaking News: FBI made serious errors during sex abuse investigation of Larry Nassar, Justice Department report says
LA Times…
Morning People….
Liz Cheney to Jim Jordan: ‘You Fucking Did This’
Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) told Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) that he was responsible for the Capitol riot while the scene was evolving on Jan. 6, according to a new book, The Hill reports.
In I Alone Can Fix It: Donald J. Trump’s Catastrophic Final Year, Washington Post reporters Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker write about a phone call between Cheney and Gen. Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, in which the Wyoming Republican describes a confrontation she had with Jordan during the riot.
Said Cheney: “That fucking guy Jim Jordan. That son of a bitch.… While these maniacs are going through the place, I’m standing in the aisle and he said, ‘We need to get the ladies away from the aisle. Let me help you.’ I smacked his hand away and told him, ‘Get away from me. You fucking did this.’”
Speculation is that Nancy Pelosi is going to be nominated to be Ambassador to Italy or The Vatican. Katherine Clark from MA now talked about as potential replacement as top House Dem, although Hakeem Jeffries has been very much in the mix previously.
https://www.axios.com/katherine-clark-speaker-house-559b6389-8256-4a18-97e4-91a4fec67602.html
President Joe Biden’s nominations of two Arizona anti-Trump Republicans to ambassadorships will likely be a key part of the president’s strategy to win the state again in 2024, local strategists believe.
Biden announced former Sen. Jeff Flake as the U.S. ambassador to Turkey on Tuesday and named Cindy McCain, widow of the late Sen. John McCain, U.S. ambassador to the U.N. World Food Programme, a diplomatic mission based in Rome, in April. Both of them endorsed Biden before the 2020 election.
The president’s decision to pick two Arizona Republicans — neither of whom are particularly popular among Republicans within the state — shows “how important they were to Biden winning Arizona” in 2020, Mike Nobel, the chief of research & managing partner of OH Predictive Insights, told the Washington Examiner.
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-nominations-mccain-flake-ambassadorship-212600163.html
And DSD?
Both Biden Amb’s jobs are OUT OF THE COUNTRY
Besides Cindy McCain and Jeff Flake , can anybody name one other Biden nominee/appointee who might have voted for Mitt Romney in 2012?
Morning Everybody…..
The crazies…..
Two men have been indicted by a federal grand jury on multiple charges in connection with an alleged plot to attack the Democratic Party headquarters building in Sacramento after last year’s presidential election….
More…
Kyle Griffin@twitter
Breaking AP:
Arizona county election officials have identified fewer than 200 cases of potential voter fraud from the 2020 election, undercutting Trump’s lies.
Only four cases have led to charges. No one has been convicted. No vote was counted twice.
Breaking Judge rules against DACA program but sends things back to Biden admin and won’t hurt the current people….
YouGov Poll….
66% of southern Republicans want to secede from the United States.
The “hot mike” phrase that backfired in the election of 1884* was a preacher overheard declaring to fellow Republicans that the Democrats were the Party of “Rum Romanism and Rebellion”.
What are Southern Republicans now? And will they still hold Lincoln-Roosevelt-Reagan Dinners?
And what appropriate nickname should they bear to parallel “Dixiecrat” ? “Gopfederates”? Elephants in Grey?
Perhaps CG has an idea.
Or maybe James could start a contest.
*[narrowly won by that red revolutionary bomb-throwing demagogue, Gov. Stephen Grover Cleveland of New York (D), generally considered one of the most conservative presidents of the late 19th Century.]
If I would give a name to this Southern movement it would have to be:
SEC-cession
NASCAR-tahere?
alternatively, SEC-youlater
The poll shows 47% of West Coast Democrats wish to leave the Union, as opposed to 27% of West Coast Republicans.
I wonder what percentage of those GOP Confederate wanna bes flipped their kids over black athletes kneeling during the anthem of a country they want a divorce from?
How many of the people who like the kneeling want to leave too?
Why don’t you poll them?
I see now you’ve shifted your response when Jack points out these uncomfortable poll results.
It used to be “that can’t be right”
Now it’s “what about”.
i dont’t know how accurate the poll is, but it shows 20% of southern Democrats and 50 percent of southern Independents want to leave too. There was that whole big Cal-exit movement after Trump got elected (Keith endorsed secession) that almost got on the ballot, etc.
What we know, unfortunately, is that there is a lot of division in the country and a lot of “sore losers” after every election.
Hopefully, everyone agrees with me that America has been and is is the greatest, most exceptional country in the history of Earth and that we should be thankful every day, that be it by birth or circumstance, that we live here.
No states should secede but it’s hard to argue that the Republic of Mississippi would fare better than the Republic of California.
These southern Republicans should realize they’re the pool boy that married the wealthy widow before they demand a divorce
Could be an argument. California is a mess.
I bet you’ve never been to Mississippi–or West Virginia for that matter.
Why would I go there?
Same reason you’d travel anywhere. To enjoy yourself and learn about what the place is really like. I hope to get to all 50 states at some pount
Morning People…..
My guess is that CG’s views would be more moderate if he lived in or extensively visited more states in different parts of the country. Just a guess.
My views are my views and I think I would have the same ones regardless.
I was born in Cook County into a family of Reform Jews and Democrats. Besides for my time at a state University, I have always lived in Cook County. I have personally been around far more Democrats than Republicans. If anything, maybe I would be more right-wing otherwise?
Perhaps. Don’t assume that Cook County is typical.
You might find out that some of your perceptions of people from different states is wrong. For example, you might be surprised at how obnoxiously materialistic some Texans are, or see a more overtly racist side of some white people in the rural south than you expected. Or I think you might be surprised at the disturbing reasons why some evangelicals support Israel.
I am pretty wordly and intelligent if I might say so myself as well as being very secure in my beliefs and values.
But the last thing that can be said is that I grew up somehow sheltered in right-wingness. Quite the opposite.
I would bet that no one (other than yourself) has ever described you as “worldly” – or “wordly” as you likely unintentionally wrote.
What is the extent of your worldwide travel experience?
And we CAN AND SHOULD continue to mske ot even BETTER…..
California is a mess?? News to me. Fifth or sixth largest economy in the World, near full employment, balanced budget, and budget surplus.
We are a donor state paying more in our tax revenue to the Feds than we get back (most of the South are takers of course).
I can only suspect that many folks in California might want to form our own country because, for example, just LA County has more residents than at least five of the plains states combined (ten Senators to two) and those places clearly have a very different view point than we do about the future of our Nation. We’re pretty tired of the regressive politicians who come from those little under populated places and, given what the Republicans are doing on voter suppression, we might really don’t want them having a say in how we conduct our lives.
I have been to Mississippi and, believe me, they aren’t living in the same world the rest of us our. They are literally killing their residents with their lack of virus restrictions (even though we have been told Tate Reeves was doing a great job). Their ignorance coupled with their regressive political convictions will kill lots of folks over the next few months.
But, as long as we are discussing polls, there is one out just today that reports over half the Republicans don’t trust science. That, of course, makes sense given how reluctant they are to be vaccinated. I would say, please proceed, except their illness will still impact innocent people who cannot be vaccinated (at least yet).
So, it’s nice to be patriotic about our Nation and the union, I am a proud American, but until Republicans stop trying to overturn elections and attack our Democracy through acts of insurrection, I will still be very open to going our own here on the West Coast. Because I really don’t want some cracker Senator from Mississippi trying to take my vote and rights away from me.
Flipped their lids
Kid-flipping: some nefarious speculative scheme where you try to make bigger profits each time a child is bought, sold or exchanged? 😉
YouGov Poll….
32% of Republicans believe that it is probably true that the Covid vaccines contain Government microchips .
These Republicans need to be asked why Trump agreed to be monitored via microchip
That’s a great question.
Democrats ought to jump on that !
Dow doubt and discord among the kooks.
Sow
Careful Jack. You’ll be accused of playing politics with the vaccine and some obscure vaguely skeptical comment about the vaccine made by a Democrat 6 months ago will be proof of “both sides”
They don’t know/realize that Trump, his wife, and children have all been vaccinated.
So, if you notice any odd or unusual behaviour from me, it’s probably because THEY have activated the microchip that the Deep State injected into my poor, innocent bloodstream last February.
Trump never talks about vaccinated. I don’t think that’s by accident.
He hardly got vaccinated on national TV in prime time like all those other public figures encouraging and reassuring their hesitant followers.
I doubt that you’ll find a vaccine-promotion site with video of Warp Speed’s champion calmly, cheerfully and triumphantly taking his own well-deserved shot.
The last few posts are about GOPer’s because Biden is off the grid this weekend it seems….
Morning
Good Morning
Chicago over the weekend…..
56 people shot
11 dead….
Jennifer Bendery
@jbendery
Tonight, the Senate voted 63-33 to confirm Tiffany Cunningham to be a lifetime judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit.
She will be the court’s first-ever Black judge.
She’s also Biden’s third appeals court judge confirmed. All have been Black women.
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Jennifer Bendery
@jbendery
Replying to
@jbendery
Ok last bit of context:
Of all 838 people (including Cunningham) who have served as federal appeals court judges since 1789, when the U.S. courts were formed, only 11 have been Black women and Biden has appointed three of them in his first six months in office.
Morning All….
Last night Seam Hannity urged viewers to get vaccinated and yesterday on FOX & Friends it was pointed out that 99% of those dying from COVID have not been vaccinated.
Murdock must be lowering the boom now. Can’t be killing off his viewers and messing with ad revenue.
Also Fox is instituting a modified “vaccine mandate.”
Employees have to go undergo a Covid test faulty to return to work unless they have been vaccinated.
Almost every Republican politician opposes, often vigorously ,any such effort to keep the virus spreaders from infecting others
Florida, where Gov. Ron DeSantis has often bragged about what a great.job he’s done during this pandemic, now has the largest daily average of cases in total number than any other state.
DeSantis is very vocal in opposing vaccine mandates ,vigorously defending the virus spreaders.
He’s even in a row with the cruise ship industry over their efforts to keep virus spreaders off their ships.
Then he’s also adopted some silly slogan,”Dont Fauci My Florida.”
Dr Fauci has become a particular villain to virus spreading Republicans like DeSantis.
More on the muddled vaccine situation and Republicans….
GOP Lawmakers Allow Vaccine Skepticism to Flourish
“As the coronavirus surges in their states and districts, fanned by a more contagious variant exploiting paltry vaccination rates, many congressional Republicans have declined to push back against vaccine skeptics in their party who are sowing mistrust about the shots’ safety and effectiveness,” the New York Times reports.
“Amid a widening partisan divide over coronavirus vaccination, most Republicans have either stoked or ignored the flood of misinformation reaching their constituents and instead focused their message about the vaccine on disparaging President Biden, characterizing his drive to inoculate Americans as politically motivated and heavy-handed.”
The Washington Post has an alternate take: Growing number of Republicans urge vaccinations amid delta surge.
Trump supporting Republican politician and anti vaxx advocate dies of–you guessed it!
https://www.the-sun.com/news/3317614/trump-fan-linda-zuern-anti-vaccine-dies-from-covid/
Stunted, hateful, uneducated people also known as Republicans.
Of course they aren’t getting vaccinated in the same numbers as Democrats. They want to own the Libs.
Well she sure is “owning” me Keith–from inside that casket!
I see that her supporters said she “loved this country.”
I presumed in her warped mind(and theirs) she thought she did.
Her actions though bespeak “hate.”
I can’t think of anything more hateful than encouraging people not to take an action that may save their life and then ,in the saddest irony of all, killed her.
It’s hard to comprehend this type of person really.
Her supporters describe her as a “leader among leaders”. How can you comprehend that? Maybe they still believe that Covid-19 is a scare tactic used by Democrats? What would Q say?
No more vaccine, no more vaccine,
No more vaccine into me (into me) …
And before I’ll get a shot,
I’ll be buried in my plot,
And go home to My LORD,
And stay free….
Meanwhile ,back in Congress, that “prick,” Rand Paul continued the Republican “war” on Dr. Anthony Fauci.At a Congressional hearing yesterday Paul incongruously threatened to have Fauci put in jail for lying to Congress.(this from a supporter of Donald Trump, the most notorious liar in the country) .
Fauci took no back seat though and fired back at the prick that the prick didn’t know what he was talking abouti.e. The prick is a liar.
Not to be outdone, Republican creep Madison Cawthorne in another incongruous statement referred to the well respected Dr Fauci as a “punk.”There was an irony there,apparently lost in this ,well do I need to say the word.
Of all the absurdities of the present day Republican Party this insane “war” on a scientist for reporting on this horrible disease who presents inconvenient truths to these Right Wing nutjobs who simply refuse to acknowledge simply reality is one of the worst.
The GOPer’s are just carrying the water for the Big Guy….
If they ever wake up for the Kool-Aid?
Gonna be a sorrowful sight….
Morning people….
The Kaiser Family Foundation has been conducting demographic studies on COVID-19 vaccinations and vaccination hesitancy. The studies have shown that among all Demographic groups, Republicans are consistently the least likely to be vaccinated. Interestingly, a couple of demographic groups who largely favor Republicans – whites and older residents – are among the more likely groups to be vaccinated. On the other hand, rural and poorly educated residents are also less likely to be vaccinated, but they still are more likely than Republicans.
Is there a link?
I referenced Kaiser a few times this month and posted the link and African-Americans and Hispanics were proportionally less likely to be vaccinated than Republicans.
Sorry. I got an article in the mail today with more current data, but I deleted it before I made the post, and then I couldn’t find the original source. Here is an older Dec. 2020 study – which largely said the same thing directionally.
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/report/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-december-2020/
You are correct that I should have provided the link, but I had already deleted it.
Not a big deal, but I believe the data I had cited was from June.
I got it from a news feed, so I assume what I provided is more current – but I am not sure.
How to watch CNN’s presidential Town Hall tonight:
http://rss.cnn.com/~r/rss/cnn_allpolitics/~3/CDVS3oWY46A/index.html
(From the CNN sidebar on Polly Dog’s main page.)
How did you feel about Biden’s Town Hall [hint to JB: maybe a dedicated thread]
I think he did well, but he did stray and lose his thread (as any of us would on a national stage), and never gave that restaurant-owner a direct and responsive answer about how to find the workers he needs.
On the other hand, Biden did hit a lot of important marks, such as:
* connecting with ordinary voters leading ordinary lives;
* making clear his opposition to autocracy, including the Chinese one;
* supporting more police (not defunding them), reforming police misconduct, encouraging community policing and hiring more mental-health and social workers to help the police;
* emphasizing his support for more gun control
Texas Senate Drops Teaching of KKK as ‘Morally Wrong’
The Texas Senate passed a bill that would remove a requirement for public school teachers to teach that the Ku Klux Klan is “morally wrong,” NBC News reports.
POLITICO
@politico
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6 months into the Biden administration, several Trump-connected firms together are down millions of dollars in fees; one prominent firm with Trumpworld ties has collapsed, and another has withdrawn from Washington entirely…
(More evidence that Trump is in fact fading across the board)
This is consistent with Texas’s new restrictions on teachers talking about racism.
I never did talk about the irony of Republicans passing bills to restrict what teachers can say at the risk of being fired, and then out of the other side of their evil mouths complain about the cancel culture.
No doubt Democratic opposition to restrictions to discussions of racism is one of the things CG thinks is a bad idea.
Republican hypocrisy on this issue goes back years.
One of the Ku Klux Klan’s specific objects was to use terror, force and violence to break up the Republican Party in the South.
But today’s Texas GOP says you can’t call the KKK morally wrong.
I presume that Greg Abbott (a towering example to young Texans of fearless moral rectitude) will sign this, and then someone will appeal this to courts.
Oh, it’s going to the courts ….
But which court?
The ruling will depend….
Politics
Morning….
And so?
Trumpism find Right In, eh?
I would hope that with some reflection, it might be seen that by bringing me into this discussion with an assumption framed as “no doubt” was unnecessary and unfair.
https://twitter.com/RichLowry/status/1417590403272904704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1417590403272904704%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nationalreview.com%2Fcorner%2Fmore-on-the-kkk-smear%2F
The bottom line from the “other side” seems to be that these concepts, such as the history of racial discrimination is already covered by statute set by the State Board of Education and that *new* efforts added by Democrats in the legislature were either redundant or not being done in the proper venue, which is the State Board of Education, not the state legislature.
There is usually complexity in governmental matters that is not always accurately portrayed by partisan voices in the media or online
State Board of Education standards already state that students are expected to “explain how Jim Crow laws and the Ku Klux Klan created obstacles to civil rights for minorities such as the suppression of voting.”
That does not change. By no means is it now disallowed to say that the KKK is “morally wrong.”
The whole “fight” seems to be about if the legislature had the standing to delve into specific curriculum matters or set requirements which are already handled at the State Board of Education.
and the other side of the coin is that it is certainly en vogue these days on the right to inaccurately make claims and assumptions about what is being taught in schools in regards to “critical race theory.”
So, both sides are now playing politics, and using the media and online voices, to amplify factually false or ,misleading claims, all designed to stir up political bases.
and these changes in the legislature that specifically discussed teaching about the Klan and several other specific things were passed in the Texas House, controlled by Republicans, and signed by the Republican Governor.
Now, the Republican controlled Texas Senate, including political rivals of Governor Abbott are objecting on the basis of jurisdiction and are trying to pare down the specifics in the new legislation. This is mostly a battle between Texas Republicans as to who can claim to be the most un-woke, which is dumb in and of itself.
I do not live in Texas and do not really have a position on the merits of what the state law really is as to jurisdiction, but think that the points of contention at least be accurately represented. It is completely false to claim that *anybody* has suggested the Klan not be discussed or somehow framed as the “good guys.”
Some educator’s will CONTINUE to teach the reality of the nation’s racial history and bias’s which has been against blacks, browns, yellows, jews, muslims, women and just about EVERYTHING else….
The facts are that state educational standards in Texas already exist that mandates that public school teachers discuss the role of the Klan and their opposition to Civil Rights.
You got snookered by the agenda-based bias of PoliticalWire, and not for the first or last time.
This link from Texas seems to be a more comprehensive, fact-based run-down of the whole brouhaha as well as links to the (already passed and signed) House bill and the Senate bill which *if passed* would change parts of the House bill.
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/education/2021/07/20/texas-kkk-senate-bill-3-critical-race-theory-texas-schools-racism/8027707002/
You won’t tell us what are your biggest Democratic ideas that you thought were bad ideas and dangerous because you have reason to believe that it would anger some. So it is natural to speculate based on other things you have said. you seem to criticize Democrats over what most (all?) of us believe are trivial things, but I can’t recall you ever sharing your thoughts on this.
It is unnecessary and unfair to single me out in such a personal way. My views, as a conservative, on issues and how they differ from Democrats, on economic, foreign, and social issues should not be a mystery. I do not expect people to have to agree with me but I would expect the recognition that my views are mainstream. Others from this group have conceded that to me before.
Any claim that I am a bigot or in anyway support bigotry is wrong but if someone actually believes that here, there would really be anything I could do to get them to stop.
Happy 98th birthday to Senator Bob Dole