Yup….
You read THAT right….
They had their shots and STILL tested positive for Covid….
My first response is to doubt the testing….
But that seems to not be the case….
One active player and support staff are involved.…
They had Johnson & Johnson shots….
That vaccine is less effective then the Pfizer and Moderna ones…
The story has NOT gone on much Nationally, probably because nobody in charge wants people talking about getting the virus AFTER getting shots….
As advertised though?
You CAN get the virus after getting a shot….
But as in this case?
The infection is very mild one with the vaccine in you….
This from Politico….
Eight breakthrough infections seems like a lot for one baseball team. Why would something like this happen?
There’s a possibility that there were false positives, so there was some problem with the testing. That would be an obvious answer. I think the other, though, and this gets to a more profound question about Covid testing in sports, where we may see a change in guidelines.
I’m maybe getting over my skis a bit, but I think what that may mean is in a short while, we may see that individuals who are fully vaccinated, they may just stop routine testing in Major League Baseball and other sports. Because it doesn’t mean anything. Even if they’re PCR positive, they’re not shedding enough virus to cause transmission.
One of the things we’ve learned now about these vaccines is that the performance features are really good. So not only is it halting symptomatic illness, 95 percent, but it’s halting asymptomatic transmission. And now, there’s some new data coming out of Israel that was just published this month, showing that individuals who are vaccinated have this really deep, big decrease in virus shedding. Just because they’re PCR positive, and they have viruses, it’s not enough virus to cause transmission.
What I hope is the CDC will issue some new guidelines, sooner rather than later, about halting routine testing in vaccinated individuals….
My Name Is Jack says
Sure you can.
That’s been known since the whole thing started .
Indeed the two most prominent vaccines,Pfizer and Moderna, have efficacy rates of around 95% .In other words around 5% of those taking the vaccine will still contract COVID .For example,if 150 million people are fully vaccinated?Around 7.5 million are still going to contract the virus.However most will be totally asymptomatic(as were 7 of the 8 Yankee people) Almost all the rest will have very mild symptoms,almost like the common cold.Only a very small number(.0005%) will end up in the hospital and only .0001% will die.
Indeed one has a greater likelihood of having a serious accident every time they get in their car or even getting struck by lightning.
bdog says
And Jack if you took your numbers in another direction…those without the vaccine probably have a very high percentage of getting the virus, and 1 percent chance of dying…that number of mortality may be less, but when you start talking about anyone over 65…that number is higher than 1 percent…and once you get over 80, your almost talking a ten fold increase of almost about 10 percent…so it seems like the vaccine is a good idea to get no matter who you are…
My Name Is Jack says
I agree.
The bottom line?The vaccines appear to be very effective.Everyone should take it.
Zreebs says
A ninth vaccinated member of the Yankees has tested positive fir COVID-19.
My Name Is Jack says
Assymptomatic.
Eight of the nine were.
The other had very minor symptoms and now feels fine.
But for the Yankees testing?Probably no one would have known they even had it.
Based On the present number of those fully vaccinated (around 122 million) and the efficacy of the vaccine ,around 5% or so of those vaccinated will become infected or between 6-7 Million.
I look forward to daily reports of the vaccinated who become infected ;however, until the number reaches around 6.5 million?My interest will be minimal.
Democratic Socialist Dave says
Anthony Fauci on Face the Nation this morning seemed relatively unconcerned because of the low probability of those positive-testing but vaccinated Yankees shedding enough virus to threaten anyone else (vaccinated or unvaccinated, and everyone in the Yankees organization has been vaccinated).
jamesb says
Actually?
The J&J DID exactly as advertised he probably thinks…
U CAN get the virus after getting a vaccination…
The promise is u won’t get seriously sick of which none of Yankee’s did…
Actually?
Judging by the current virus figures?
Getting the virus these days is unlikely to send u to the hospital either without the shot…
That said?
The shot DOES seem the better option in the ling run for most….
And IS the Biden admin policy and he does work for Biden, eh?
My Name Is Jack says
How about you ,did you take the “better option” or are you rolling the dice?
As to your ridiculous statement that “ getting the virus THESE DAYS(emphasis added) is unlikely to send you to the hospital….?”
It’s always been that way since Day One.So that’s a typical one of your goofy sayings.The vast majority of people who contracted the virus are not hospitalized.Where have you been?
Zreebs says
In order to know whether J&J is performing as advertised, we would need to know how many members of the Yankees were fully vaccinated. Of hand, nine people sounds like a high positive rate, but perhaps there are 200 members of the Yankees?
My Name Is Jack says
The J&J vaccine has an efficacy rate of 72% .
Accordingly for every thousand people who receive it around 280 or so will likely “get” the virus.
As previously mentioned,most will be assymptomatic or have very mild symptoms as happened here.