The Manhattan DA’s office seems to gather more and MORE information for a state grand jury to charge ex-President Donald Trump and his organization with criminal conduct….
I have thought that such a case would not be brought against a former American President, but I now believe I was wrong….
Trump’s actions , revealed extensively in past NY Times expose’s make it almost impossible NOT indict him…(It appears that a case IS being constructed thru the actions and non-actions of Barr and others that tried to cover for Trump while he was in office)
So?
Law enforcement in Palm County Florida are actually planning on how they would handle a request from New York to extradite Trump back for arraignment ….(I’m sure NY prosecutors would make a deal with Trump’s lawyer to produce him for arraignment)
Sooner of later Trump won’t be worried about 2024….
He’ll be worried about staying out of a cell?
Oh, and there are others he’ll have to deal with in the NY Attorney General , IRS, and Wash DC and Georgia DA’s and the US Attorney in NY going after his old lawyer buddy Rudy….
Republicans lawmakers kissing the ass of a guy fighting to stay out of a cell?
Who could make this stuff up?
PALM BEACH MAKES CONTINGENCY PLANS IN CASE TRUMP IS INDICTED — Law enforcement officials in Palm Beach County, Fla., have actively prepared for the possibility that Manhattan District Attorney CY VANCE could indict former President DONALD TRUMP while he’s at Mar-a-Lago, according to two high-ranking county officials involved in planning sessions.
Among the topics discussed in those meetings: how to handle the thorny extradition issues that could arise if an indictment moves forward.
An obscure clause in Florida’s statute on interstate extradition gives Gov. RON DESANTIS the ability to intervene and even investigate whether an indicted “person ought to be surrendered” to law enforcement officials from another state — which means that as Mar-a-Lago prepares to close down for the season and Trump relocates to Bedminster, N.J., it isn’t just the Florida heat he’s leaving behind: He could lose a key piece of political protection.
“The statute leaves room for interpretation that the governor has the power to order a review and potentially not comply with the extradition notice,” says JOE ABRUZZO, clerk of the Circuit Court of Palm Beach County, the official who would be in charge of opening a potential fugitive-at-large case.
One wrinkle to Abruzzo’s potential role in all of this: He is a former close associate of President JOE BIDEN’S younger brother, FRANK. Abruzzo tells Playbook that despite his friendship with the Biden family, “the full extent of the law will be followed and carried out appropriately, without bias.”
If an indictment comes down while Trump is in Bedminster for the summer, this could all play out very differently. New Jersey’s extradition statute is similar to Florida’s, giving the governor the power to investigate an out-of-state warrant. But its governor is Democrat PHIL MURPHY, who is no fan of Trump’s, and would not likely intervene to stop Trump’s extradition. In the event of an indictment, Trump’s lawyers could also negotiate a condition of surrender, which could cut local law enforcement out. An attorney for Trump declined to comment….
I’m no expert on Florida extradition proceedings ,but ,in many states ,the Governor has the final say in extraditions.Indeed,his signature is often on the document.
I can only imagine how Ron DeSantis would handle an extradition request from New York for Donald Trump.
De Santis would NOT stop Trump from being sent up to NYC….
Come ON….
There would several reasons for him to tell Trump’s lawyers to send their client for an arraignment….
I was simply speculating on an actual extradition request.
Likely ,Trump would surrrnder himself voluntarily in case of indictment.
However, if an actual extradition process was undertaken?Why I’m sure that DeSantis ,for purely political reasons ,would drag it out for a good while and procedurally he could do so.
I assume the Secret Service would HAVE to legally stand aside or technically assist (Federal agents usually have state police officer powers by state statue) the Manhattan DA people and even the FBI if they where executing a state or federal warrant for Trump’s arrest….
Again?
It is NEVER going to go there….
‘If’ indicted….
Trump’s lawyers and the Manhattan DA’s lawyer’s WILL work out a deal…
Jack?
I assume you would NOT wanna be a defence lawyer going before the court with Trump as a client holding out for the Governor would you?
It’s NEVER gonna
You don’t know he’s ever going to be indicted for that matter.
And we all know your uh “record.”
Correct Jack….
As I say in the piece I did NOT think it would happen…
I DO think there is more than 50/50 chance he will NOW….
I picked Biden and Romney….
I did NOT pick Obama….
Nobody got Trump except one person here and it wasn’t U Jack….
I am picking NO Trump 2024….
Just let him flee the country and not come back.
If De Santis Signed the Order he would be Politically Crucified…Liz Cheney got off easy compared to De Santis if he signed the Extradition Order…
Extradition is actually an obligation upon the states imposed by Article IV, section 2, of the United States Constitution.
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“A Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State, shall on Demand of the executive Authority of the State from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the State having Jurisdiction of the Crime.
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But would Donald Trump — by moving to Florida before any charge or indictment (or even a declaration of intent to institute one) —exactly qualify as “[a] Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State” ?
Thanks for info DSD….
I stand by my view that De Santis will do EVERYTHING in his power to NOT be pur in the position to have sign off for Trump to sent back to NYC…
I Have ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT that the Florida Gov WOULD sign off if put on the spot…
Might complain…
And use it for HIS political gain…
But Trump would be going, which is why Trump’s lawyers would deliver him in the first place…
They would wait until he went to his home in New Jersey as planned.
If the FBI was involved he wouldn’t be able to get off the plane once it went airborne without being actually taken into custody on arrival…
Again……
THAT is NOT what is gonna happen…
Trump doing a ‘perp’ walk in cuffs is NOT gonna happen unless he wants to be REALLY stupid and make a scene in the media…
Read the article. *If* he is going to be indicted this summer, it will be after he moves to New Jersey for the season. Mar-A-Lago is shutting down for the summer.
But yes, DeSantis would absolutely make a show of not turning Trump over to New York and that pervert Cuomo.
NJ has a Democratic Gov….
He’d turn himself in….
Though?…With all this coming his way I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump STAYS in Florida…..
He’s back to NYC I think once since he lost his day job…
He wasn’t supposed to retire at the place…
He’s there….
He’s not planning on staying there. Mar-A-Lago will be closed for the season. He’s moving to his golf club in New Jersey. There are reports he might prefer staying there full time, closer to NYC money, etc.
But if DeSantis were to theoretically not turn him over, that would be the biggest issue in the 2022 Fl Gov election.
Might play good with GOPer’s….
But would be a losing voters move for 2024….
I’m Sticking to he’d want Trump to get on a plane and ‘surrender’ to the Manhattan DA’s office in NYC…
He might want that privately but I could definitely see a scenario where he makes a show of “protecting” Trump from the corrupt nursing home killers in New York,
Ok….
Yea…
For about 10 minutes…
Judge ain’t gonna cut Trump any slack….
Under orders one might remand him to the US Marshal’s…..
Again?
Trump is NOT going put himself where he might be dragged back to NYC in cuffs….
IF indicted?
He’ll return voluntarily….
Bitching…
But going back….
Technically, DeSantis can protect him from arrest within Florida. What I am saying is that I can see DeSantis doing so.
CG?
WTF is Trump gonna do this????
The NYC DA gets a Federal warrant for Trump and the Governor is NOT gonna ‘protect’ any fucking body….
The FBI would call the Secret Service and say lets get this done without any bullshit…..
THEN?
AGAIN?
The US Marshall’s might be called to ‘Transport ‘ an ex-President IN CUFFS?
WTF?????
Give it Up❗️
Trump don’t want this….
DeSantis don’t want this…
The Feds don’t want this…
And the DA would have a plus for HIS case with a jury…
Trump LEFT THE White House….
US Marshalls would involve a federal case. He couldn’t protect him from that.
NO CG….
State’s notify the FBI that a warrant is out for a person when they want to arrest someone in ANOTHER STATE or COUNTRY for a crime….
I don’t think you understand how the law works.
If New York State indicts Trump, the Feds have nothing to do with it.
It is not my role to try to educate you though.
When an arrest warrant is issued, it is entered into national law enforcement databases, and the suspect named in the warrant may be arrested anywhere in the United States….
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Under federal law, a valid arrest warrant issued by any state can be executed in any other state, but that does not automatically mean that every person named in an arrest warrant will be hunted down, taken into custody, and extradited back to the warrant-issuing state to stand trial.
Link…
I don’t have to read anything….
As the linked piece I just put says and I KNOW…..
The DA goes to the Feds….
The Feds go scoop up one Donald J Trump…..
ANYWHERE ….
DeSantis balks?
DeSantis HAS TO turn over Trump if it goes to court….
PERIOD….
I’m done with this….
It’s all hypothetical ….
He’d return voluntarily ….
Read the article you linked to on your own blog. It clearly states how DeSantis as the current Governor of Florida has the authority to not extradite a person wanted by another state.
…..Operating word CG….’planning’…..
Jack would ask…
How do we ‘know’ what a man in a alternate universe is gonna do 10 minutes from now…..
He is NOT rational….
His lawyer’s will be…
If he don’t fire them?
“I don’t have to read anything….”
Truer words spoken about onself may be impossible.
I STRONGLY disagree on the DeSantis angle….
For DeSantis AND Trump defence of the charges…
Jack did NOT answer my defence lawyer position question…
Now the ex-President is in a unique Position as he has law enforcement Officers Guarding him 24-7. Could the Secret Service actually custodialize the President if a Warrant was issued by the New York Court System?