No surprise….
The reason given was her comments about Donald Trump where negative and a distraction….
Maybe…
But the Republican lawmaker was telling the truth….
She loses her leadership job for doing that…
It IS the Grand ole’ Parties loss….
Cheney will NOT go quietly….
Cheney has called her decision to publicly fight Trump a matter of principle, warning that allowing him to falsely claim the election was stolen amounts to an attack on Democracy and is destructive to the GOP and its values.
“If you want leaders who will enable and spread his destructive lies, I’m not your person, you have plenty of others to choose from. That will be their legacy,” Cheney told her Republican colleagues Wednesday morning, according to a person familiar with her remarks who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record. “But I promise you this, after today, I will be leading the fight to restore our party and our nation to conservative principles, to defeating socialism, to defending our republic, to making the GOP worthy again of being the party of Lincoln.”
Her colleagues, including House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), have said that her fights with the former president have become a distraction and that she should not serve in a leadership position where the job is to unify the party as it seeks to combat President Biden’s agenda and win back the House….
Cheney’s speech on the US House floor in defense of her views and asking for the ‘truth’ about Donald Trump and their party…
Cheney in her floor speech called on Republicans to “speak the truth” and “stand above politics.”
Here’s the link for the speech….
I agree with Z….
McCarthy has to watch his back with Trump….
It should be noted that I and all Democrats who post here were “rooting” for Cheney to keep her position
Just in case that is brought up later.
Indeed Scott!
That link to Liz Cheney’s speech doesn’t work.
Try this (on her own Congressional web site):
https://cheney.house.gov/2021/05/11/cheney-our-freedom-only-survives-if-we-protect-it/
See also her remarks to reporters (sounding rather like Jack) this morning:
REP. LIZ CHENEY:I have had the conference meeting. I am absolutely committed, as I said last night, and as I said just now to my colleagues, that we must go forward based on truth. We cannot both embrace the big lie and embrace the Constitution. And going forward, the nation needs it. The nation needs a strong Republican Party. The nation needs a party that is based upon fundamental principles of conservatism. I am committed and dedicated to ensuring that that’s how this party goes forward. And I plan to lead the fight to do that.
REPORTER:How concerned are you that former President Trump might end up back in the Oval Office?
REP. CHENEY:I will do everything I can to ensure that the former president never again gets anywhere near the Oval Office. We have seen the danger that he continues to provoke with his language. We have seen his lack of commitment and dedication to the Constitution. And I think it is very important that we make sure whomever we elect is somebody who will be faithful to the Constitution.
REPORTER:Congresswoman, do you feel betrayed by today’s vote?
REP. CHENEY: I do not. I think that it is an indication of where the Republican Party is. I think that the party is in a place that we have got to bring it back from, and we’ve got to get back to a position where we are a party that can fight for conservative principles, that can fight for substance. We cannot be dragged backward by the very dangerous lies of a former president. Thank you.
https://cheney.house.gov/2021/05/12/cheney-we-must-go-forward-based-on-truth/
Thanks DSD….
I’ll change it….
Rep. Liz Cheney
@RepLizCheney
Freedom only survives if we protect it. We must speak the truth. The election was not stolen. America has not failed.
This twitter post has 63.7K likes and 14K Retweets as I type this….
“I think is is an indication where the Republican Party is.”
Read that again James next time you try to convince those here with some irrelevant anecdote that the Republican Party is “moving on “ from Trump.
Liz Cheney gets it.
Long time past when you do too!
Some more for you James…
(The vote to remove Cheney “…underscored that the party will not tolerate disagreements with Trump…”
The Washington Post
Oh I get it…..
He, he, he…..
I’m just gonna sit back and enjoy the Trump result work it’s way thru like it almost does…
This is NOT gonna sit well with Trump
“I don’t think anybody is questioning the legitimacy of the presidential election. I think that is all over with. We’re sitting here with the president today.”
Politicalwire
In fact Donald Trump IS doing THAT very same thing..
Yes….
This IS CRAZY
Oh catch up James,that was “good” Kevin for the media onlookers.
Here’s real Kevin for the kooks who make up the vast majority of the Republican Party:
“I just met with Cortupt Joe Biden and he’s STILL planning to pus his radical Socialist agenda onto the American people.”
Kevin McCarthy in a campaign text to supporters seeking to raise money.
He’s channeling Newt Gingrich.
U fail to notice the nuance Jack
McCarthy does NOT Mention Trump….
He goes the general Republican message….
U REALLY have open ur eyes to the fact that in the end?
The GOPer’s will HAVE TO walk awY from Trump
They have NO choice and YES…
The Cheney move is NOT gonna stop this…
Cheney IS A Republican
Her voting record shows it
Removing her because she wants her party to NOT be owned by a person spewing lies tjat McCarthy just refuted makes a Lot of sense?
I heard it was a voice vote not a secret ballot…all the knives in the room wanted to see who vote against Trump and support Cheney. The Republicans are so far off base it is crazy…I was not able to find the final vote numbers, did they indicate how many yes vs no votes there were?
No. There was no tally of yes vs. no. I took that to mean “All in favor, say “yes”. all opposed, say “nay”.”
I trust someone will correct me if I am wrong.
I wonder if caucus members would have voted differently had not every other member (and leader) seen how he or she was voting.
I do think many Republicans would not want to anger Trump because he is a threat to their power.
James unfortunately you are missing the fact their message is not nuanced at all. Every actor taking part in the ousting of Cheney did it as the Litmus Test for Trumpism (the can say Republican all they want but they should say the new Republican the Trump Republican)…You have a member of congress who the Republicans (Trumplicans moving forward) are saying can’t be in leadership because she is conveying Democrat Talking Points…Lets break those talking points down
1. the election was not stolen, it was free and fair
2. Donald Trump is a danger to America and bears responsibility for the January 6th
Now I can see the Trumplicans not liking the second talking point because though I agree he does bare a large part in January 6th he didn’t start the movements and sentiments that were displayed on that day, he just inflamed, emboldened and legitimized them…they can argue that those folks acted on their own volition and Trump didn’t tell them to storm capital, he told them to be peaceful, etc…bullshit, but that is their argument…
the first point is where the Trumplicans are one hundred percent sticking to an idea espoused by their leader that most know is false…regardless they are willing to follow this ideaology down the path…so if McCarthy doesn’t mention Trump in his speech, it is not because he is being nuanced and getting away from Trump…it is probably quite the opposite he doesn’t have to mention Trump because it is already understood this is a Trumplican message…
Bdog, I think Trump deserves most of the blame for the republicans believing the election was stolen by his statements leading up to Jan 6. He was saying he won the election the day after the polls closed. So yes, I do think he started the movement and sentiments that were displayed on that day.
When I say movements…I mean the Proud Boys, the bugaloos, the right wing extremists in the military…Trump didn’t start those groups, he emboldened them to act…
I agree with you that his actions and his statements about the election were a major cause a January 6, but I was taking the perspective of a Republican apologist when I wrote my comment..I can see their argument that he wasn’t responsible for the Jan 6, that was those groups mentioned above…They are wrong, but I understand their point of view (and why they would have that view)…the other talking point about the election being unfair and rigged is the point where even a Republican apologist can’t explain away cause there is zero evidence except for what Trump says…
And I do have to agree with Jack…yes some day the Republicans will have to walk away from Trump…but when…two years from now six years from now ten years from now or when he is dead in the grave (though I am sure there is Q-non conspiracy that he will be put on ice to rise again, etc)…(so at that point you will be right, but we are talking about the near future and in the near future you are dead wrong)
The vote is now over, but the Cheyney story is not. I would take her at her word that she is not finished talking about this because the issue is too important. Republicans will likely choose to not listen to her, but Republican legislators crave power above all else, and while Cheyney might not represent a lot of GOP voters, it is not the proud boys who are contributing $millions to GOP campaigns. And even if she only represents 5% of the GOP vote, that 5% is more than enough to change an election. It did in 2016, and then it did again in 2020.
I don’t know the next chapter in Cheyney’s life, but I’m betting it will be impactful.
Cheney says she will run for re-election to Congress.
A story was posted here a few days ago claiming she has a “good chance” of winning because there are presently multiple candidates and one has only to win a plurality in Wyoming.
Suoerficially?A good possibility.
However, several factors are missing in that analysis:1) While several candidates say they are running,how many will actually file when the time comes?Wyoming is small state ,population wise .Can all these would be candidates raise the money to conduct a real campaign? 2) Already it appears that Right wing groups like the Club For Growth are moving to solidify their fund raising prowess behind a single anti Cheney candidate. 3) Wyoming political observers are speculating that Lizs outer limits of electoral support is around a third of the vote(lower 30 something percent) and finally the real gorilla in the room 4) Will Trump openly support a particular candidate and maybe even do a rally in Wyoming for his preferred candidate?
Lots of questions yet to be answered.
As one can readily see,just saying Liz Cheney has a”good” chance in a multi candidate field is rather superficial.Sure, let’s say five or six candidates getting 10 to 15 percent each ?Then that argument can be made .But what one candidate being backed by the pro Trump Right Wing groups and maybe an open endorsement from Trump himself ,complete with a personal appearance on that candidates behalf?Then the “good “ chance can easily fade to a horse race with Cheney in the underdog role.
In my view, Cheney, win or lose for the Congressional seat, is setting herself up to run for the presidential nomination as the anti Trump candidate.She has already refused to rule this role out,
Yesterday ,I speculated that the anti Trump slice of the Republican Party right now is somewhere around 20% or so.Certainly nowhere near a majority, but also not totally insignificant.
If a single candidate,like Cheney ,could effectively mobilize that support then she would become factor in a multi candidate race although less of one if Trump maintains his current level of support ,runs himself,thus pretty much clearing the field.
Now ,we hear that some old line Republicans are even threatening a third party route.Liz could become their darling.
So ,yes Liz Cheney has a future role in Republican National Politics ,Serious candidate, gadfly, spoiler?All potential outcomes.
I saw the piece on Cheney ‘for president’ and agree….
The good news for Liz Cheney is her refusal to lie for Trump has so enraged Wyoming MAGAts that 7 have already announced they will challenge her.
With that many crazies running her chance of squeaking through to renomination is more likely.
Trump will endorse one. I still think that most likely, Cheney loses her seat. But the primary is still a long way away. Lots can happen before then.
Now back to the Republicans .
While useless time is spent here as to the relative definitions of such terms as “tug of war,” “civil war,” etc.,Republican extremism continues apace.
Let’s turn to the raucous House hearings on the Jan. 6 insurrection where the Republicans are now engaged in full throated revisionism.
Forget all the hand wringing exhibited in the immediate aftermath by Republicans.Now?
It never really happened .Trumpite Cong. Andy Biggs says that it’s a “bald faced lie” to call what happened an “insurrection.He compared it all to a “normal tourist visit.”
Trumpite Cong. Pat Fallon from Texas says the Republican rioters were simply a “mob of misfits.”
Racist Republican Paul Godard of Arizona says the Justice Department was “harassing peaceful patriots.”
And so it went.
None of this is particularly surprising however.Republicans are desperate to portray this as anything other than what it was…
An insurrection set in motion by the lies and attempted theft by a Republican President of the United States and carried out by Republican voting and supporting hoodlums And criminals attempting to aid and abet the theft ,even to such an extent that they were threatening to kill the Republican VP for refusing to participate in their criminal behavior.
In Republican lexicon in other words?A normal tourist visit!
Our host said months ago that the 6th was in the “rear window” Jack. Don’t you know it’s time to move on.
Sure IS a ‘try’ for Republicans Keith….
Cheney ain’t gonna let go though
And?
NOT for hundreds that have been charged with crimes….
The “rear window” were your words James, not mine. Any thinking person understands how serious this situation was, and remains today.
The word salad above is just that, meaningless.
Even your double talk is getting old.
It is really amazing that no lawmakers got hurt on Jan 6. What would have happened if the rioters found AOC, Ilhan Omar or Nancy Pelosi on that day?
And if Trump supporters are willing to attack the Capitol then surely they are willing to attack less secure locations if they even perceive that their leader so instructs. Our democracy remains at risk, and it is frustrating that some people (such as James) don’t see it.
I think it’s pretty clear these Nazis would have killed them.
Would Republicans finally denounce them then? Who knows?
Would they still be embracing the bull shit Scott?
Very frustrating.
I suspect most Republicans would only have denounced the murders if they felt it was in their own political interest to do so,
Cheney does seem to be leaning in on bring the face of the anti Trump GOP.
Romney, Sasse and others currently in office have to various degrees opposed Trump but have shied away from leading the charge.
Cheney’s comments that she will run herself if it helps keep Trump from the GOP nomination puts her in contrast to Romney for example. Mitts comments seem to indicate he is resigned to another DJT nomination if he runs.
A third party run by Cheyney would get some votes, enough to affect the election.
Trump and McCarthy might eventually (privately) regret their decision to go after Cheney. If McCarthy thought that removing Cheyney would silence her, he will likely soon be surprised.
And I still don’t see McCarthy as a long-term winner in this battle. Trump will be expecting more from him, and McCarthy might not be able to deliver. Right now, McCarthy looks like a weak and incompetent lackey.
Only because you, Zreebs, express such great agitation and frustration about others’ spelling and grammar, I feel the need to point out that there is only one ‘Y’ in the surnames of the former Vice President and his daughter.
My father, however, greatly enjoyed reading the crime, detective and mystery novels of the British writer Peter Cheyney.
Dave, Thank you. I will try to remember that.
I mostly only get agitated by James.
Breaking
Stefanik voted in by Republicans to replace Cheney in the #3 House leadership spot…