Some of us pointed THAT out against some Democrats , who want to leave the Democratic West Virginia US Senator out in the cold….
NOT gonna happen…
Biden, Schumer and Pelosi need the ‘blue dog’ Senator in a 50/50 US Senate…
And while the guy voted more with Trump than any other Democrat?
He’s still a Democrat…
Seems the Vice President did an Covid interview for a West Virginia media outlet (She did ones for other states whose Senator’s where fine with Harris) without giving Manchin a ‘heads up’….
That resulted in the Democratic senator throwing a shit-fit….
(Harris mentioned the coal industry , a major West Virginia industry that is a major target of those pushing climate change and Enviromental policy…Manchin chairs the US Senate Energy committee and will be imputing anything The Senate and Congress does on Energy…)
Seems someone from the Biden admin called the Senator to calm him down….
Yes….
It’s like that....
image….Fox News. Com
Of course the Democrats need Manchin. Everybody knows and understands that and the position that Manchin is in.
And the Democrats need each of the other 49 Democratic senators too. Everyone here understands that with the possible exception of James.
WE understand this…
OTHERS DO NOT…..
Check the Twitter feed on this…
There ARE people who don’t get this like we do…
Manchin is probably firmly in my list of Top 10 Sitting Senators.
Can anyone else say so?
Only maybe when you include the fact that he is from West Virginia, and if he wasn’t elected, a Trumpist surely would be.
Those who have a good memory may recall that I was a big fan of Manchin as Governor when he privatized the workers compensation market in West Virginia. Previously insurance carriers couldn’t sell Workers Compensation in West Virginia, and employers had to purchase it from the West Virginia government. I spent a lot of time in Charleston West Virginia a little over a decade ago and I attended a meeting with Manchin on the topic.
You guys are going to make him change his name to Personchin
That sounds like something a Republican would say.
pure evil
No – just a silly joke about political correctness that you probably actually assume that is the way some Democrats think.
I was going to say is CG writing jokes for Tim Allen now?
CNN’s editorial not mine-
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/01/politics/joe-biden-joe-manchin/index.html
A couple of the gals on “The View” got outraged that Manchin expressed any disappointment with Harris doing this, saying it made him look like a bigot and that “he works for her” since she is the President of the Senate.
But even Joy Behar pointed out the political reality of needing to keep Manchin in good graces.
Great GET CG….
I was gonna go there…
But Joy IS correct….
Told ya so Z….
Fact is Manchin’s in the drivers seat unless his vote can be replaced with a Repubkican fir the next two years at least….
And like i said he also chsirs the Senate Energy committee to boot!🙄
I have no idea what you imagined you told me, but Good for you.
Yeah James and his “told ya so” routine.
He’s done that to me too.
And like you ,Im left wondering exactly what is is he “told me.”
Or better yet, he states the obvious and then acts as if he has pronounced some great conclusion .
What’s funny is ,I think he really believes that he is “teaching” us something.
Yeah – James definitely see himself as a teacher in which we learn from him, but we just don’t want to admit it. Even his drawing of the dog at the lectern making a point shows that he sees himself as some form of instructor.
I will give James credit for one thing. For the most part, he selects decent articles for discussion, even though 90% of the time I don’t read them. I get my news elsewhere. I just come here to discuss politics and look to see if you, Keith, CG, Scott or Dave made any recent comments. Due to the pandemic, I never socialize anymore – except online or by phone.
Yes, the View has always been a major outlet for information coming from the Democratic Party Leadership.
Harris gave Manchin what he wanted. Think about it and then watch how he votes.
Even his Republican Governor wants to go big.
Amusing how someone who has been consistently wrong finds the ability to say “I told you so.”
I guess this is a welcomed distraction from the sedition of the Republican Party.
Yeah I saw that from Gov Justice. In West Virginia even Republicans aren’t fans of trickle down economics. The New Deal and unionization is what made the state Democratic.
Republicans may have flipped it back with “God guns and gays (and coal)”.
But to year a Republican governor say “if we waste some money we waste some money” in regards to helping people was pretty remarkable.
Justice was a Republican ,then became and was elected Governor as a Democrat, then became a Republican again and all this happened over a period of a few years.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/02/manchin-sinema-challengers-464821
I don’t support getting rid of the filibuster presently.
Neither does Biden support getting rid of it…
Is he going to stand by that?
Some of his past views have been conveniently tossed aside when the pressure on the left got heavy.
Unk if he tries to hold out if Biden calls him directly ….
Biden wants this bill…..
But he’s not gonna push the $2,000
Will the $15 be nect?
Oh the immigration part i think isn’t gonna in the bill i think?
Which issues are that?
I am speaking of his life-long opposition to taxpayer funding of abortion until he literally flipped on that overnight.
Also, the Crime Bill he authored, past trade agreements he supported, etc.
Sounds a lot like Mitt Romney.
You should like him.
You know, a man “reconsidering “ his views.
Mitt Romney’s views as a national candidate/figure have been consistent.
Some people change from pro-choice to Pro-Life and vice versa as matters of principle, etc.
The issue with Biden was different. He supported the Hyde Amendment his entire career. As a 2020 Presidential candidate, he stated publicly that he still strongly supported it.
Voices on the left complained and literally the next day, he said he changed his mind.
Spine of a jellyfish
Didn’t stop you from voting for a guy with
“the spine of a jellyfish.”
Maybe you like aquatic creatures?
I guess I made the determination that the spine of a jellyfish is better than the heart of a Trump.
(See, I always knew you guys would pull out that card in defense of Biden at any turn… “well, you voted for him, nyah nyah nyah”) Quite predictable.
Yeah just like you do here all the time.
Quit playing the victim.
I am a legitimate “victim” here but still I persist.
Not sure whatever point you are trying to make.
You know very well that I am right about Biden on the specific points I made but instead of defending it, turned to diversions and whataboutisms.
Haha!
That’s the funniest thing on here in a long time.
You?A victim?
Why would anyone in the right mind “persist” in a a little political discussion group of six or seven people to be “victimized”
I see you’re in one of your mini rages again.
Get real fellow.
I am in the furthest thing from a rage and that is after dealing with work matters this morning that would justify an epic ragefest. My blood pressure has dropped approximately 97 points from two hours ago and I am very serene as easily the most bipartisan participant here.
Another issue that Biden has flip flopped on multiple times, depending on the political circumstances, is if a President should get to nominate a Supreme Court Justice during an election year.
Assuming this group were successful in defeating Manchin or Synema in a primary,their candidate will almost certainly lose the GE in either of those two states.
Democrats now are basically the same place Republicans were around 2010-2014, with the exception of actually controlling everything.
Biden will have to keep everyone together or there is going to be an unraveling.
Yup Jack…..
The Democrats HAVE TOO be aware of the disastrous 2010 MidTerm loses they took…
Manchin IS an enigma for Democrat’s..
But he IS needed unless some GOPer’s nump the Trump ship…
I’m not even sure Manchin will run again.
In 2012, He won by around 24% of the vote.
In 2018, he won by less than 3%.
WV is very Republican now and Manchin is sort of an anomaly.
He might look at the numbers and move on.
Well, if he doesn’t run, that seat is gone for the Democrats.
Yeah but I seriously doubt he has much chance of holding it anyway.
He’s never lost and I think many the folks there who followed Trump in 2018 would go back to Manchin.
If Gov.Jim Justice decides he want to run for the Senate,he would beat Manchin ,probably fairly handily.
In my view if Justice runs,Manchin won’t.
Justice is not that popular, not even among Republicans.
There were polls showing Manchin could beat Justiec in a 2020 race for Governor but national Democrats begged Manchin to stay in the Senate.
Justice has actually done one of the best jobs in the country among Governors with the vaccine rollout.
I think he would be a formidable candidate in a very Republican state.
Manchin would actually be the quintessential candidate for your “Center Right “ Party you are always talking about.
Yeah, I’d be ok with him on the National Unity Ticket.
But let’s be clear, by no means is Manchin, “very conservative.”
He is a centrist, at best.
Oh you’re resurrecting John Anderson’s old 1980 party name.
On second though, the NUT banner might not work.
I agree Jack….
I think this IS posturing…