The President of the United States of America is about to get formally charged with “incitement of insurrection” in connection with a protest at the nation’s Capitol that turned in a effort to stop Congress from acknowledging Joe Biden and Kamala Harris November win in the Electoral College….
The article as a indictment against the President will pass with votes of support from House members of BOTH parties….
The session is being held in the same place protestors broke into and rummaged a week ago….
The building is being guarded by Federal Law Enforcement and Armed National Guard troops…
The House undertook an emotionally charged debate on Wednesday over impeaching President Trump for a historic second time, as lawmakers marched toward an afternoon vote to charge him just one week after he incited a mob of loyalists to storm the Capitol and stop Congress from affirming President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s victory in the November election.
Returning to a heavily fortified Capitol, protected by thousands of National Guard troops, Democrats and Republicans traded impassioned arguments over the efficacy of charging the president at all and an article of impeachment that accuses the president of “incitement of insurrection” that led to the rampage by his supporters.
Summoning the darkest chapters of American history, Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California implored colleagues in both parties to embrace “a constitutional remedy that will ensure that the republic will be safe from this man who is so resolutely determined to tear down the things that we hold dear and that hold us together.”
“He must go. He is a clear and present danger to the nation that we all love,” she said, adding later, “It gives me no pleasure to say this — it breaks my heart.”
Representative Cedric Richmond of Louisiana, who is leaving the House to serve as a senior aide to Mr. Biden, was more succinct: “Simply put, we told you so.
Republicans were split over the impending charge, with up to a dozen or more expected to back vote to impeach and Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, embracing the effortas a means to purge Mr. Trump from the party.
But their defense was led by an indignant Representative Jim Jordan of Ohio, one of Mr. Trump’s most loyal far-right allies, who accused Democrats of pouring gasoline on a national fire purely out of hatred for Mr. Trump.
“It’s always been about getting the president, no matter what,” said Mr. Jordan, who called for unity a week after voting to toss out Mr. Biden’s win in key swing states. “It’s an obsession, an obsession that has now broadened. It’s not just about impeachment anymore, it’s about canceling, as I’ve said. Canceling the president and anyone that disagrees with them.”
Still, neither Mr. Jordan nor most other Republicans attempted to defend Mr. Trump’s actions directly, or the mob he riled up and later attacked the Capitol to stop Congress from declaring Mr. Biden the winner.
The final vote after the debate is expected to pass, with a small but significant number of Republicans joining Democrats to impeach Mr. Trump, making him the first president to be impeached twice….
image…ABC News
Im only listening to the proceedings as I am working but I can tell every time a Republican is speaking. They sound like either an inbred hillbilly, a frat boy defending himself against claims of date rape, or a Mary Kay saleswoman drunk on QAnon-ade.
I heard Jason Crow says his Republican colleagues were in tears yesterday because they fear their own constituents and are receiving threats over loyalty to Trump.,
In today’s world, not an on-line world, those are real in the age of Trump and worthy of discussion and investigation. Of course some of these threats have been made electronically I am sure.
But it’s hard to feel too bad for some of these folks when I heard the wild accusations coming out of the Republican Members in defense of Trump.
Listening to them you would have thought Maxine Waters started those riots. Where have we heard that before?
8 GOP House members signal they will vote for impeaching Trump…
Whoop di do!
(In my best Billy Madison voice)
Make that 9…
Ryan Struky
Nine House Republicans backing impeachment so far:
Rep. Liz Cheney (WY)
Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler (WA)
Rep. John Katko (NY)
Rep. Adam Kinzinger (IL)
Rep. Fred Upton (MI)
Rep. Dan Newhouse (WA)
Rep. Peter Meijer (MI)
Rep. Anthony Gonzalez (OH)
Rep. Tom Rice (SC)
Only like 131 more?
10 now. From 0 the last time. At this rare I guess if Trump were to be able to be impeached a half dozen or so more times ( for what I don’t know–Going back in time and selling the US out to the Confederates, Nazis, Attila the Hun) we might actually have a majority of Republicans who could stand up ti a fascist
BREAKING
The count just went over 221….
President Donald J. Trump just got impeached by the US House a second time in his first term in office….
The charge?
In sighting and insurrection…
The count is still on going and the Republicans voting ‘Aye’ is up to 10…..
Jennifer Bendery
🚨 DONE. House votes to impeach Trump, again.
Final tally is 231 to 197.
10 Republicans voted to impeach:
Liz Cheney
Jaime Herrera Beutler
John Katko
Adam Kinzinger
Fred Upton
Dan Newhouse
Peter Meijer
Anthony Gonzalez
Tom Rice
David Valadao
197 cowards!
4 Republicans did not vote; 10 voted yea & 197 voted nay.
All 222 Democrats voted yea.
Two seats are undecided and unfilled.
Five Thirty Eight
There have been just four presidential impeachments in American history — and Trump now represents half of that total.
More Peaches than a Georgia Belle?
Impeachy-keen !
Four non-voters (all GOP)
CG would recognize them instantly but I don’t:
Granger Texas
Harris Maryland
Murphy (NC)
Webster (FL)
https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/202117?Page=2
But here is the problem. The GOP has gotten so out of control that some of those 8 people will have a difficult time getting renominated. And it is always a problem when you can’t do the right thing without losing your job. And don’t be so sure this problem won’t get worse in the future. I can’t help but wonder if the GOP will be like North Korea, as when a party leader is slow to applaud to Kim Yo Jong, then he will be replaced. The names Corker, Jolly and Flake come immediately to mind. All retired before their time. It is a problem when A pure blooded lapdog like William Sessions is disgraced within his party for being too “independent”.
The final number is 10….
And right now i’d agree with ya…
But they have another year or so to see what happens…
10 votes for impeachment is ten more Republicans than last time…lol…
Had Trump actually had time left as President, you have to assume that number would be much larger.
There is also the apparent and horrific reality that Republican Members of Congress are getting death threats and fear for their lives and that of their families if they “cross Trump” in such a way. I have stated many times my view on danger vs. disgrace.
Perhaps the biggest irony is that the Republican replacement for Justin Amash, who as an elected Republican who left the party, voted to impeach Trump last time, also voted to impeach Trump. Much respect for Rep. Meijer.
So those Republicans were appeasing terrorists in other words.
Good to know if ISIS or Al Qaeda attacks us again certain members of Congress can be intimidated
or people getting drunk and leaving threats of harm on barely-read political blogs
CG, that’s how a lot of the 1/6/21 threats and menaces were read.
You are never going to 16 yr old long since apologized for comments to racists go are you?
What does that have to do with the drunken death threat you made against me on here a few years ago which james deleted? But yes, I forgave but do not forget.
Incidentally, I remember the Election Night 2004 thread pretty well, Your remarks, which you did apologize for, were directed at all Republicans. “Kentucky Republican”, was not someone who was even posting there at the time. I believe she came around in 2007, at the time of the Kentucky Gubernatorial race. Her handle was in response to “Kentucky Democrat” who was definitely not around in 2004 either.
Right. Neville Chamberlain would be proud. Maybe Susan Collins is correct that Trump learned his lesson because of the Republicans’ strong response and he will do the right thing in the future. And how is the country going to heal if we begin to make people accountable for their crimes – especially the rich and powerful?
This should NOT be the end if the line least we forget?
Prosecutor’s in NYC and NYS will be the next to go after his money, or even him…
I STILL maintain it’s gonna be down hill fir the big guy….
Losing Money is gonna hurt him more than two indictments from Congress
Tom Rice of South Carolina voting to Impeach Trump, without any sort of prior warning, is said to have really shocked people.
He has been a Trump ally in Congress and just last week voted against certifying election results. Yet, he voted Yes on Impeachment. Maybe he thinks jack will support him for statewide office
In the meantime, Nancy Mace of SC, who did vote no because she said Trump was already on the way out, is having a Group Text fight with Marjorie Green.
Do Democrats have a candidate to beat Donald Trump when he runs for Governor of Florida?
(the only major office he might be able to run for?
Damn CG?🙄
You R scaring me‼️
Now that I think of that?
He probably COULD…..
What party?
He, he, he
He’ll probably move to the Trumpiest state he can and try to run for Governor out of spite.
Perhaps Trump will remain in Florida and run for President of Del Boca Vista.
Of course, he would be among many to get Impeached there.
what party?
The Pity Party
Florida seems to be trending red. If Democrats can’t defeat people like DeSantis or Rubio, then it is hard to be optimistic.
You are never going to 16 yr old long since apologized for comments to racists go are you?
I assume CG is still angry over an off-hand comment that only you and he remembers?
Not angry. And it was quickly deleted by james, so not many would have seen it. To Scott’s credit, he did own up to commenting Under the Influence and apologized. But he is still pretty mad at me these days, even after I voted for Biden!
The death threats I received via email in 2008 due to P1 lefists (at least one of them) were far more specific and explicit.
Have you ever apologized for slobbering over that Klan lady CG?
Dumb question.
I have never slobbered over anyone on the internet, at least that I could not actually see, and also, whatever issue you had with her, this “Klan” business should be beneath you. Why do you think she was in the Klan? Do you really think she was in the Klan?
You said she was probably “hot”.
All I know is she thought the idea of any white Democrat in the South as ludicrous. She was pretty clear that she thought of the Republican Party as the party of whites and blacks belonged in the Democratic Party. And that’s the way she liked it.
I’ve heard lots of Democrats say the same thing that they could never understand why an African-American could be a Republican, etc. Everybody knows, I have always wanted an inclusive and diverse GOP.
Regardless, hardly on par with the “Klan.”
She was also all about “southern heritage” and was wistful of the old days in the South .
I have reached the conclusion she must have actually been Paula Deen.
Despite CG’s rather naive comment, There is a difference between those people who believe that all whites should be Republicans and all blacks should be Democrats with those who only believe that all blacks should Democrats. The first group of people is exclusively both White and Republican while the second group can be of either race. (Only white Republicans would be in the first group because it would mean that Republicans would win all national elections and almost all state elections). The first group of people would definitely want to live in an area that was predominately white while the second group may or may not want to live in a predominately white area. The first group of people strongly identify with their own race, while the second group may or may not. The first group believes that people should vote according to their own selfish interests, while the second group may or may not believe that.
You most likely already know why some Democrats (of both races) think that all blacks should be Democrats, so I won’t discuss in depth here. Briefly, the argument is that if you are a member of a minority, you should be able to relate to the injustices incurred by other minorities.
I will also leave it for another day why CG might have been attracted to this woman – even though he never saw her picture.
That pre-woke contest over at P1 was over who was the hottest-looking woman in current politics.
People argued on that criterion alone, quite apart from how much they liked or loathed their opinions or actionss. No doubt Republicans voted for Stephanie Herseth (D-SD) while Democrats like me were impressed with Michele Bachmann (R-Minn,) that complete right-wing kook who formed an even kookier partnership with her husband.
Here’s that list from 2006 (found by Bing):
Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn (R-TN)
Congresswoman Stephanie Herseth (D-SD)
State Senator Gretchen Whitmer (D-MI)
Assemblywoman Nicole Parra (D-CA)
Assemblywoman Dawn Gibbons (R-NV)
Congresswoman Mary Bono (R-CA)
State Senator Michelle Bachman (R-MN)
Congressional candidate Nikki Tinker (D-TN)
Governor Jennifer Granholm (D-MI)
US Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA)
¶ If people are discussing Kentucky Republican, the trick was to find some way to dislodge her from her querulous soapbox. I was surprised that she admired Matawan, a movie about organizing Appalachian coal-miners that I first saw with a splinter group of Trotskyists. And when she asked around P1 for musical suggestions for her upcoming wedding, all kinds of contributors offered best wishes and ideas that she found useful.
With regard to death threats, I wouldn’t forget them either. I don’t ever recall getting a death threat, nor do I recall ever making one.
I have lots of flaws, but at least I don’t hold grudges. I can be pissed off at someone one day and then totally forget about it the next. That quality has worked really well for me over the years in my private life. Maybe I just recognize that given time, EVERYONE will disappoint me sooner or later and I will disappoint them. Yet ironically, I see that as a healthy attitude.
I recall GOPBullshit from P1 days. he was a despicable dude, far worse (I think we all agree) than anyone on PDog. Yet I very much sympathized with him when someone outed him and where he lived with the hope that someone would try to harm him. I am not ashamed of that sympathy. And I still feel it any time someone is treated unfairly – even when I don’t like the person.
I’ve gotten several death threats from prosecuting criminal types.
In the most memorable instance,about ten years ago.I prosecuted this guy for harassing this woman over a period of months.He was convicted and served a month in jail.He had a vocal problem and talked weirdly.
After he got out ,he was found lurking outside his lawyers office one morning .The lawyer called me and told me that maybe I should be on the lookout.Later that day a note was left at my office that threatened me over the matter.I called an officer who I worked with at the Police dept in the town I served as Prosecutor.He told me he would handle it.
Several hours later he called and told me that they had surrounded his house and he wouldn’t come out.Later they heard a gunshot.He had committed suicide.
Interestingly he apparently blamed me and and his lawyer fir his plight as he had not contacted the woman he had harassed.
Wow – I never heard that story.
I guess Insurance people are not hated as much as lawyers!😊
I can’t think of any real death threats I’ve received
In my twenties I was a high school teacher and a kid mouthed off what might be considered a “threat” but after a trip to the principle he cleaned up his act pretty quick. When I was working in agribusiness I heard about a client who said he would shoot any sales people that showed up at his farm, but that was second hand. And in my current business of health care recruitment nothing that could be remotely considered a “threat” to my safety.
Wow Jack. Glad you weren’t harmed. My mom worked for the prosecuting attorney as a case worker and I know their office was targeted once in a high profile case, but thankfully nothing came of it.
Attorneys get a bad rap–and sometimes it is deserved. But the good ones get the bad rap from the worst people it seems.
Come to think of it, I recall when “Conservative Democrat” threatened Jack.
I do too now that I think of it. I think CD threatened both James and Jack. He cursed me out but never threatened me.
Yes CD has …
A little different Jack, to say the least, than having a blogger send you death threats electronically.
But be careful, too much personal information and it allows people to find out your identity. I learned that the hard way.
Is there a difference between stalking and threats?
The front of the campaign office I was working in was blown up and I once had a Republican precinct captain pull a gun on me. Do those count as threats?
It won’t be long before Republicans in Congress are pulling guns on Democratic Members the way things are going.
The vast majority of the country believes we are falling apart. We have better things to worry about than ancient threats. At least we should.
Don’t let anyone tell you yesterday was some kind of moral breakthrough for the Republicans. They are still the Party that brought you Trump.
Publicly, you blamed “Puerto Rican gangbanger Luis Gutierrez” for the alleged bombing. Was it not him?
Like I said, give too much information away and you get stalked.
Be careful Jack.
Of course he isn’t. It’s an old blog technique to change the subject from his own behavior. It’s easier than defending his own party and the countless fawning words he has written in defense of their racism and sedition.
I will never forget the day he called anyone who opposed Bush’s war in Iraq unpatriotic.
Today 197 Republicans voted to defend sedition. Corey would like to talk about things that happened decades ago even though none of us care.
I never called anybody who opposed the Iraq War “unpatriotic” as clearly seen by very old posts on my old blog where I clearly say the opposite (and I am pretty sure DSD would back me up on that)
But H. Keith is and remains an Irredeemable Deplorable.
My “own” blog.
Every post from July 2006 on is still there
Well by July 2006 everyone knew by then that the justifications for goin to war (Saddam had nuclear weapons and was involved in 9-11) was a complete farce. The Bush Administration lied to build support for the war.
So of course you wouldn’t make such a statement in 2006. Would you have made it in 2002? That is the real question. I think I know the answer.
dumb comment, but you leave it intentionally ambiguous at the end.
I still believe the Iraq War was justified for one thing. It had not begun in 2002 and there was no internet blog comment section to talk on until late February 2004, but I have never considered anyone “unpatriotic” just because they disagree with me. I have always considered people to have good intentions but often misguided. Others comfort themselves by considering anyone different from them as “evil.”
The year doesn’t really matter since he’s still pro-war now and thinks W was a great President Zreebs. I know you know that.
I simply, since he constantly demands apologies, even when they have been offered, asked him to apologize for questioning the patriotism of his fellow bloggers.
I knew Saddam was in trouble after tried to knock off Bush I….
Of course you called them unpatriotic Corey and everyone jumped on you at the time especially since you made up that story about your mystery illness that kept you from military service.
Those are facts, you wrote those things now please apologize for your insults to people who both served in the military and opposed an illegal war that killed thousands.
No one gives a shit Corey what Scott said years ago here, no one cares.
A greater offense is your silly defense of a party that gave us Donald Trump.
But please apologize for calling us unpatriotic all those years ago.
See how that works.
Trump released a hostage video in which he practically sounded like a human being. Said things he should have said last week, at the minimum.
He seems very scared of what the Senate might do.
I think he’s scared he’s gonna lose his shirt….
That should scare everyone.
He, he, he
And a LOT of his MONEY$$$$ to buy shirts .,,
Even sone lawyers have bailed on him
What if he ain’t money to pay for more to defend his sorry ass?
How much in his 3rd wife gonna take when she leaves him?
The big guy has ISSUES
Oh, given his genius for collecting support from his worshippers, Donald Trump would not have the slightest difficulty in setting himself up (as indeed he’s always seen himself) as the greatest witch-hunt victim in recorded human history and bringing in far more than enough support from The Base for a legal defense, vindication and revenge fund.
A far greater problem would be assembling a competent, credible team of lawyers to present his case. Even those like Alan Dershowitz and Pat Cippolone who argued against the first impeachment have indicated they have no interest in defending him further — leaving him with no recognizable name besides the self-embarrassing Rudy Giuliani, once known long ago as America’s Mayor and the prosecutor who convicted John Gotti.