You Right Donald ….
Once you give up your White House gig?
You ARE gonna lose some of the spotlight and a Lot of your political influence…
It’s happening right now already….
Blinking on the Stimulus /Virus bill….
A veto override coming on the Defense bill…
Mike Pence oking the Electoral Vote results….
Mitch McConnell turning down your $2,000 check push….
As his days in office come to a close, President Donald Trump has hinted to those close to him that he’s worried his influence within Republican circles may be waning.
Fearful of party stalwarts growing comfortable crossing him, the president has pushed to keep up the pressure and plot possible revenge scenarios against potential turncoats, according to three people who spoke to him as he unwound at Mar-a-Lago and elsewhere over the holiday weekend.
“Why aren’t they just listening [to me]?” one of the sources recalled Trump asking during a diatribe against prominent GOPers who the president felt weren’t fighting for him on his current battle lines: from nullifying the 2020 election outcome, to torpedoing liability law for Big Tech, to sending out $2,000 checks for COVID-19 relief.
The comments came during Trump’s Christmas getaway in Florida this past weekend and for those who heard them they were some of the clearest indications to date that the president has reached an inflection point. Outwardly insistent that he was robbed of a re-election victory, he has privately groused that too many in his party are acknowledging the reality of his actual loss and showing signs of tiptoeing away from him.
At other points during the long Christmas weekend, the president continued bemoaning the perceived lack of fealty from various elected Republicans, the sources recounted. He rattled off names such as Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Rep. Adam Kinzinger (for being, in Trump’s estimation, a “wise guy”), and even his own VP, Mike Pence….
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A would be Trump successor former S.C. Governor and Trumpite Nikki Haley was castigated by columnist Jennifer Rubin:
“…mindless denunciations of policies Democrats are not pursuing,appealing to White grievance,reiterating delusions of Christian persecution,and uttering empty platitudes are what pass for Republican’ideas’these days.And Haley is one of the smarter and saner Republicans.She simply lacks intellectual integrity,creativity and courage…”
Eating their own….
The Trump Legacy….
Jack you are in SC….
But i just do NOT see how Nikki Haley would something white rightwing nut Republicans could allow themselves to accept as their Presidential nominee…
I wouldn’t imagine they would right now.
Nikki is a well known chameleon though with no particular philosophy as such who has reinvented herself and her issue positions on several occasions in the past so who knows what she will be in four years.
“When we talk in private,I haven’t heard a single Congressional Republican allege that the election results were fraudulent- not one.
Sen. Ben Sasse(R- Nebraska)
Accordingly,any Republican who supports the antics of Trump cultist Josh Hawley in the Senate or any companion effort in the House should be labeled a liar ,a cheat and a thief .
The whole thing about next weeks close out of the election vote i see as posturing for the post Trump era….
There will be be just 2 hours or so of bull shit then both Pelosi and McConnell with have acceptance vote and Pence will accept it…
It’s BEEN OVER since election day…
Trump’s staff is almost gone..
Trump’s furniture is even going….
And The GOPer lawmakers have deserted him…
These knuckleheads are out for themselves..
Nobody thinks it will be successful but that’s not the point.
As CG has reiterated many times,Republicans saw themselves as the “good guys,” in contrast to the evil Democrats .Those who vote with Hawley will be revealed if Sasse is correct as
Liars…they well know that this is BS and they are still asserting that the election was stolen when they well know it wasn’t.
Cheats…They are asserting a known falsehood in order to secure the election of one who was defeated .
Thieves.., They are literally trying to steal an election.
And quite apparently if they do this they have not,”deserted him.”
In some ways Jack it is already successful. The majority of Republicans think the election was stolen and half the Republicans in the House will vote against certification.
And, we were told here that Democrats were sore losers. Remember, the whole Barbara Boxer was “thinking about objecting to the 2000 results” discussion? I do. The Democrats have never even come close to doing what will happen next Wednesday in the Capitol, and people are still making excuses for the Republicans.
The Republicans will now prove, without a doubt, that they are opposed to democracy as we have been led to believe it exists. They are making it easier to throw out future election results, crossing another “red line” of tradition that has never been crossed before — certainly not by Democrats.
This election was the most secure in history without evidence of fraud unless you count those two Republicans they arrested in Pennsylvania. Yet, several Republican legislatures are busy finding new ways to suppress the vote. Because as one Republican once so famously said, “when everyone votes, we lose.”
This disease that has infected the Republican Party won’t go away anytime soon.
Actually, I remembered it wrong. Barbara Boxer *did* object to the 2004 Electoral Vote counting, causing the chambers to have a meaningless debate, which is what will happen next week.
There are certainly a lot of sore losers associated with Trump, but those who were sore loser enough to call for Secession of California or any other state after the 2016 election hardly have any room to talk on the matter.
The Boxer objection, that was withdrawn, was done to highlight voting irregularities in Ohio and she wanted to put a spotlight on those issues before the election was certified.
This, of course, is yet another “what about” that has no relationship to what Hawley and, it appears, the majority of the House Republicans will be doing next Wednesday. People who will be voting to overturn a clear electoral mandate. But, but, Barbara Boxer.
This, by all accounts, was the most secure election in our history. Why would the Republicans be doing this at this point other than to set the stage for objections like this in the future.
If Al Gore could preside over the certification of an election where he won the popular vote with honor and decorum, I am not sure why the Republicans can’t put a sock in it over one they lost by seven million votes.
The sore loser label only goes in one direction on this one.
Same thing Hawley is going to say, “we need to have transparency in the future, people need to have confidence in the system, etc etc.”
Both are grandstanding politicians who had, at least temporarily, White House fever and wanted to appeal to what they saw as the base of the party.
Wrong then. Wrong now. Easy standard.
Really?? Same thing?
Have you been paying attention Corey Ray, or are you so determined to maintain your fantasy that somehow the GOP will go back to the Bush salad days that you actually believe this bullshit?
Because it is bullshit. Over 60 lawsuits challenging the outcome of this election have been filed by Republicans and dismissed without legal standing, and those suits all had the tacit support of the Republican establishment (with three exceptions). Silence reins on Capitol Hill over what Trump is attempting to do to the normal and peaceful transfer of power between parties.
What Hawley and the House teabagging Republicans are doing is an assault on our democracy, an attempt to dismiss the will of the voters. They want to overturn an election by throwing the votes out from states that didn’t vote they way they liked. But, hey, what about Barbara Boxer??
This isn’t business as usual even though you Corey and James would like to think it is. It’s really the beginning of your party moving from the board room to a cult den.
Yes, with his majority, McConnell will go back to his business as usual, the business of fucking over the little people. But, Trump will hover over it all. He is the Republican Party now, and that scares the shit out of you.
Hawley is wrong.
Boxer was wrong.
A view that would easily be shared by the vast majority of the American people, but sadly disputed by the tribalists
Because of course there was no evidence to suggest that Karl Rove had hacked Diebold voting machines to steal the election from John Kerry.
Both races were about 51-48 and the sore losers should let it go.
Traditionally, Democrats have been the bigger sore losers, because we saw this also during the Certification after 2000 and 2016, and also because Democrats in Congress took steps to try to impeach Reagan and both Bushes, but the new Trump Republicans feel they need to outdo what the Democrats have traditionally been known for.
But clearly this is not going to go anywhere and is only going to reflect poorly on those who take part.
Historical objections and rejections
In 1864, all votes from Louisiana and Tennessee were rejected because of the American Civil War.
In 1872, all votes from Arkansas and Louisiana plus three of the eleven electoral votes from Georgia were rejected, due to allegations of electoral fraud, and due to submitting votes for a candidate that had died.[122]
Objections to the electoral vote count are rarely raised, although it did occur during the vote count in 2001 after the close 2000 presidential election between Governor George W. Bush of Texas and the vice president of the United States, Al Gore. The election had been controversial, and its outcome was decided by the court case Bush v. Gore. Gore, who as vice president was required to preside over his own Electoral College defeat (by five electoral votes), denied the objections, all of which were raised by representatives and would have favored his candidacy, after no senators would agree to jointly object.
Objections were again raised in the vote count of the 2004 elections, alleging voter suppression and machine irregularities in Ohio, and on that occasion one representative and one senator objected, following protocols mandated by the Electoral Count Act. The joint session was suspended as outlined in these protocols, and the objections were quickly disposed of and rejected by both Houses of Congress….
Wiki…
I will repeat….
Hawley & Co. are doing this solely to butter their OWN bread with Trump supporters….
This bull shit should last for a few hours then be cut off….
With the media happy….
Pelosi will get the House acceptance…
McConnell will get the Senate acceptance….
Pence will go along cause he has to and he doesn’t want the history of being a complete asshole….
This is ALL a circus act….
No more….
Trump’s furniture is being packed…
His staff is out looking for new jobs…
McConnell is moving on ….
Republicans are back to infighting…..
Life goes on…
But Rightwingnuts have actually helped prove that the American Democracy is STRONGER then it’s ever been....
Fauci joins the crowd in knocking the vaccine roll out….
In less than 3 weeks he will be among those responsible for the Biden admin actions
So 2004 was the second Boxer Rebellion…
But truthfully I worry also about what is going to happen in DC on the 6th outside the capital walls…are trump supporters going to show up in large numbers and will anti-trump supporters show up in large numbers and will there be violent clashes…in which case this is the backdrop for an inauguration day that may also be filled with violence and protest…
I think in the end these right wingers pushing violence online will be no shows in DC.
Been thinking THIS out loud for a while HERE…
Chris Cillizza
@CillizzaCNN
This is important.
If Trump uses the January 6 electoral college vote as a loyalty test and works to recruit primary challengers against sitting GOP Senators, the party will rip in two.
Lionel Boyd Johnson
@JIM88942294
Replying to
@CillizzaCNN
This ain’t about Primary challengers. This is Trump trying to overturn the election. After the 6th he will try something else. Remember on Jan 21 he will be facing indictments from NY City & NY State. My guess he is petrified to leave office. God forbid Russia cuts him loose.
It’s ginna get crazier as we wind down to Jan. 20
Boston Globe
President Trump took to Twitter on Friday evening to make the unfounded assertion that Georgia’s two Senate races are “illegal and invalid.”
Before even discussing the massive corruption which took place in the 2020 Election, which gives us far more votes than is necessary to win all of the Swing States (only need three), it must be noted that the State Legislatures were not in any way responsible for the massive….
Election officials have certified Joe Biden as the winner of the U.S. Presidential election
…changes made to the voting process, rules and regulations, many made hastily before the election, and therefore the whole State Election is not legal or Constitutional. Additionally, the Georgia Consent Decree is Unconstitutional & the State 2020 Presidential Election….
This claim about election fraud is disputed
…is therefore both illegal and invalid, and that would include the two current Senatorial Elections. In Wisconsin, Voters not asking for applications invalidates the Election. All of this without even discussing the millions of fraudulent votes that were cast or altered!
This claim about election fraud is disputed,