He sat down with a reporter from Axios this time….
It did NOT result in good reviews for the big guy…
It actually just showed how out of touch he is with reality and how much the people around him accommodate that like Trump wants…
These were the emperor’s clothes, and he was proud of them. But Swan, given one of the few opportunities for a non-sycophant to interview the president, revealed them for what they were. Trump was left fumbling, unable to rationalize his repeated claims that all was well. Because, of course, it isn’t.
“Right now, I think it’s under control,” Trump said at one point. “I’ll tell you what—”
“How? A thousand Americans are dying a day,” Swan interjected.
“They are dying, that’s true. And you ha— It is what it is,” Trump replied. “But that doesn’t mean we aren’t doing everything we can. It’s under control as much as you can control it. This is a horrible plague that beset us.”
“You really think this is as much as we can control it? A thousand deaths a day?” Swan said.
“I’ll tell you, I’d like to know if somebody—” Trump began, then switched directions. “First of all, we have done a great job.”
He then went into his standard patter about ventilators and protective equipment. This has emerged as a standard defense mechanism for the president: What he’s done is the best that could have been done, and nothing he hasn’t done would have been useful to do until such time as he does it. The number of tests completed is an unalloyed success, although the slow ramp-up in testing allowed the virus to spread without detection for weeks this spring, spurring massive numbers of deaths. To Swan, Trump blamed this on his having taken office without there being a test for the virus — a virus that emerged in humans more than two years after Trump became president.
Even within the confines of Trump’s bounded successes, though, it quickly became apparent that he didn’t have a grasp on what was happening with the pandemic. He was holding numbers in his hands, but didn’t understand what they showed and, importantly, what they didn’t….
CG says
Today, Trump renamed Yosemite National Park as Yo Semite.
CG says
“Yo Semite Sam” once hosted the first Jewish rap show on MTV.
CG says
That sounds credible, but I actually just made that up.
Great Halloween costume idea though..
CG says
Who the hell let him do this interview?
From beginning to end he looks like a complete and total fool.
You can tell he knew he wasn’t doing well. Jonathan Swan tried to push back where he could but could have done even more. I think he was probably wondering if Trump might just storm off he if went any further in pushing back.
CG says
You guys better now blow this election.
CG says
not*
Scott P says
I’m doing all that I can.
No chance I’d sit on the sidelines this year.
Zreebs says
It is my belief that the only way Trump will leave office is if he loses this election by a landslide. And even then he might have to be forced out.
jamesb says
The higher the margin the better …
Yea Z….
Scott P says
I’m sorry but I find this liberal hand wringing over Trump trying to stay in office if he loses a waste of time.
He won’t leave?
We make him leave. Put his fat ass in a wheelbarrow and roll it out to Pennsylvania Avenue.
Who is gonna back him up?
Mike Pence? We’ll throw him, mother and his bible out of the Naval Observatory too.
They lose they aren’t in power anymore. Period. End of sentence.
jamesb says
I Sooooo agree Scott….
It’s REALLY simple….
On Jan 1st Both Houses of Congress should be Dem led….
That means for 20 days Congress is out of Trump’s teach
12:01Am Jan 20 Biden is swore in as the President…
At THAT MOMENT?
Trump is a visitor in the White House although i’m sure he’ll be in Florida…
The nuclear football codes go active for Biden…
All white House calls go to Biden…
All cabinet Sec from Trump are out of a job including Barr…
Trump is just Jong Q Private citizen
And from the second AP calls Biden the winner?
Republicans can no longer fear him screwing them
Pelosi and Schumer will be running things at Capital hill…
Zreebs says
Republicans will back Trump up. What? Suddenly Republicans are going to do what is right? After all of these years, you think they have any sense of ethics? And they will bring out their guns.
Furthermore, I think Trump will call out Federal troops when people protest.
CG says
I see no chance of this, although I would expect him to perhaps not concede or claim fraud.
If he loses, the results will be what they are and very few Americans are going to support him staying in office outside the law past 12 pm on 1/20. If he refuses to cooperate with a transition that will only make him look worse.
Republicans will want nothing to do with this. Trump would be at about 15 percent approval at this point, at most. He isn’t going to stick around.
Zreebs says
Trump will claim the vote was rigged and his support among Republicans will remain strong. Saying the vote was rigged isn’t any more ridiculous than hundreds of other things he said that Republicans believed.
CG says
I do not agree. Once he loses, he loses. He is seen as a loser. He is no longer the vehicle. People move on to something else.
Some will support him but most who vote for will would be upset if he refuses to concede or accept reality. He has no legal or physical ability to remain in office once his term ends. You can see how quickly people in the party pushed back against him after his recent trial balloon about “delaying” the election. There is only so far he can go. He might want to actually try anything but I think he knows he has limits to what he can get away with.
Anything else is for a movie. Maybe one day someone will make one with this premise.
Scott P says
Trump having 15% approval in the Republican Party late this year early next year is a pipe dream.
He is wildly popular with the GOP base.
When Republicans lose they tend to blame the moderates and the “establishment”.
This time will be no different. Only Trump will be right along them blaming them too.
This idea that CG will have his party back right away is laughable.
Either Trump Sr or Jr could be serious candidates for the 2024 GOP nomination even if Trump loses.
CG says
15% overall if he loses and says he will not leave.
Would speak poorly of the 15 percent though.
CG says
and no, neither Trump is viable for 2024.
jamesb says
Agreed….
No Trump residue for 2024…
They will be passe’
jamesb says
Trump & Co gonna have serious legal issue to deal with I’m thinking….
Will like the freedom of being just a private citizen…
jamesb says
The media narrative of a good margin Joe Biden win WILL carry over Trump like a tidal wave….
People will be dancing in the streets!
There will be a collective sigh around the world ….
Sure the Trump people will be pissed…
And the media will show that
But it won’t matter…
This Trump won’t leave is just media story building Bull Shit….
In Washington
Donald Trump has few if any REAL friends
I’m betting he gets left on his own REAL QUICK….
jamesb says
The mistake i see is that people think Trump is tough…
He isn’t…
In almost every case that people stand up to him?
He backs down…
If Biden has a substantial win?
It’s OVER….
The guy bitches …
But leaves for Florida and his new TV or Radio Network which will fail eventually like EVERYTHING that touches does….
Remember also?
There will be tons of ‘tell all books’ and NY authorities after his money…
Democratic Socialist Dave says
People sometimes forget (excusably if they hadn’t even been born) how long many Republicans kept their loyalties to Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon and (more honorably) Barry Goldwater.
Although it can’t really be estimated now, I don’t really see any reason that a comparable number of Republicans will not admire Donald Trump if he loses widely, and even if he’s indicted or convicted of something. His glorification apparatus is already in place and won’t, for the most part, go away — cf. Pat Buchanan’s defence of Richard Nixon.
And [Sorry, CG] the Never-Trumpers will not be received back into Mr Lincoln’s Grand Old Party with any enthusiasm; they will be seen by most Republican supporters as untrustworthy, disloyal deserters who brought on the National Catastrophe of the Biden Administration. Remember how little influence within the GOP that Republican veterans like Nelson Rockefeller or Bill Scranton had after 1964, or how little Pete McCloskey had after 1972.
CG says
I don’t see any comparison with Trump running for reelection and potentially losing with McCarthy, Nixon, or Goldwater.
McCarthy, when discredited, became a laughing stock. He died soon thereafter though. He was never a Presidential possibility.
Goldwater and Nixon came from within the party. They did not take it over. Once both were off the scene, the party went in a different direction for their next Presidential nomination though.
The future of the GOP remains to be seen. If people within the party are dumb enough to want to go down a path that would lead to destruction, they will deserve to see it happen. Realignment can happen. Usually though, parties rebound even when left for dead.
I think a lot of blame will be placed personally at Trump and Trumpism. Maybe his acolytes will leave the party because of this division. Good riddance. It would make it easier to take it back without them
CG says
Not that I am any great admirer of Roger Marshall these days, but we see from the Kansas primary results that Republicans can be capable of thinking strategically and learning from recent electoral mistakes.
The party establishment was begging Trump to Tweet an endorsement of Marshall and he refused to do it. Clearly, he preferred Kobach. Marshall won anyway.
CG says
The Senate primary Thursday in TN should be interesting.
You have the Trump backed candidate who was expected to win easily. He had been a former Mitt Romney and Jeb Bush supporter who has since denounced them, aligning himself with Trump, being seriously challenged now by a young Indian-American doctor who is running against Trump’s choice, attacking him for such things as donating to Mitt Romney in 2012.
Because I guess it would have been better if he supported Obama…
jamesb says
To be clear….
I’m talking about GOPer lawmakers…
Not the body elective
Keith says
Dave is completely correct, the vast majority of rank & file Republicans, given their racist nature, will continue to support Trump and look to him as the leader of the Party.
Even now as he melts down mentally (see the Axios interview) they support and make excuses for him. The only way he leaves the stage is death or imprisonment where they take his phone away from him. Anything else and he’s the leader of the Republican Party for the foreseeable future.
Donald is making a new generation of Democrats.
jamesb says
Very good point Keith about Trump working hard to help Democrats get their act together…
My Name Is Jack says
“Very good point?”
Besides CG, you have been the biggest booster of the idea that if defeated Trump would simply disappear.
As usual,you make no sense at all.
My Name Is Jack says
I have long pushed back against this idea that ,if defeated ,Trump would simply exit the stage.
It’s not his style at all.
He will blame fraudulent ballots initially.When that doesn’t work he will turn his ire on the Republican Party itself.Im talking about Republican politicians.He will blast them as being insufficiently supportive.He will make up lies about them(that will actually be “poetic justice”) and he will have millions of supporters who will agree.
The question will be ,how long he wishes to stay with it.Trump certainly hasn’t been a conventional President.Why would he be a conventional ex President ?
My view is the Trumpers will become sort of a faction within the Republican Party,similiar to the Evangelicals.They will need to be appeased by candidates seeking the Republican nomination .Knowing Trumps penchant for commercialization,he may actually form an organization complete with a structure, dues(money) ,conferences(at his hotels), the whole bit,Tea Party style.
But a simple farewell, fade out?I don’t see that.
Zreebs says
Senate Republicans stood by to defend Trump once he was impeached. I suspect most of them deep down knew he guilty of everything that he was charged with and much more than that, yet for their own interests they let him stay on.
Yes, Lyndsey graham will say right now that it is not a good idea to delay the election. And he said bad things about Trump when it was fashionable among some Republicans to do so and when this shadow of a man wanted the Presidency for himself. But if the Republican masses start protesting what they are told it was a rigged election, graham will be on all fours like he allegedly is when he is with his prostitutes.
Republicans aren’t doing what they need to do to to ensure that this election will be fair. It shouldn’t just be Democrats who want to make sure that people can vote safely and that Post Office will deliver on time. And let’s not forget how Moscow Mitch and his corrupt cronies acted when they were told that Russia interfered in our elections. And how the state of Georgia responded by replacing their ballot machines which previously had a paper trail.
The vast majority of Republicans in office only care about power and in preserving their existing privileges. We already know this even though none of us Really wants to believe it. And that won’t change unless Republicans and independents demand it. But I don’t see that happening right now.
Keith says
I know it and believe it Zreebs. The Republicans will do anything to stay in power and will gladly disrupt the election to meet those ends. Their virus reaction is proof of their duplicity.
ronnieevan says
Three reasons why Trump wants to discredit the legitimacy of the election:
1) He won’t have to concede (say he lost).
2) He will have the ultimate grievance mantra for his cable network/cable commentator role to replace “Obama was born in Kenya”. As he says it, it could “take years” to find out who won, by which he really means it will be the new grievance that fuels his right wing communication enterprise: not “you’re fired”, but “I was (“illegally”) fired”.
3) He is hoping to throw considerable dust into the numerous lawsuits over his business and finances by claiming political motives and that the effort to “oust” (i.e. vote) him from office was in order to prosecute him in the courts.
I agree that, despite the above reasons, Trump out of office will be primarily considered a heckler who will try to scream louder to be heard above the other voices. He will have to wear the heavy coat, whether he wants to or not, of responsibility for the monumental mismanagement of the pandemic (hence the need for a sideshow as necessary congressional investigations are launched). He will say he was the genius behind any vaccine that is developed. I’m just pointing to the shallow, banal, corrupt reasons he is willing to try to discredit the legitimacy of a presidential election.
jamesb says
RE…..
I’m gonna post your comment up, ok?
ronnieevan says
Sure thing, it was good catharsis.