Huh?
President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he would have “no problem” wearing a face mask in public in certain circumstances — a pivot from his months-long refusal to wear a mask in public at events where social distancing was not always observed.
When asked whether he would wear a mask, Trump told Fox Business in a White House interview, “Oh, I would. I have. I mean people have seen me wearing one. If I’m in a group of people where we’re not 10 feet away — but usually I’m not in that position and everyone’s tested.”
Trump said that he didn’t believe making masks mandatory across the country was necessary but claimed that he is “all for masks” and that he “thinks masks are good.”
Trump added he would have “no problem” with being seen with a mask on.
image…pbs.org
Another Lie.
Republican Congressman Andy Biggs of Arizona wants Trump to get rid of theCoronavirus. task force.
Who needs a bunch of doctors and scientists when we have a stable genius?
Arizona is one of the current hotspots for the spreading of the virus.
Biggs has also described the economy as “roaring back.”
GOP Lawmaker Wants Coronavirus Task Force Shut Down
Rep. Andy Biggs (R-AZ) called for the White House coronavirus task force to be disbanded “so that President Trump’s message is not mitigated or distorted,” Politico reports.
He said that Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx “continue to contradict” Trump’s goal of reopening the economy.
So, why are those doctors sabotaging The Transition to Greatness?
Voters have a choice. Side with medicine or Republicans.
Trump and Fla Gov to hold a presser shortly….
Florida recorded 10,109 new COVID-19 cases on Wednesday, the highest single-day increase for the state.
There are now more than 169,000 confirmed cases in Florida. An additional 68 deaths were reported Wednesday, bringing the total number of COVID-19 fatalities to 3,718….
More…
The U.S. is no longer “flattening the curve” of the COVID-19 epidemic, a Trump administration official told members of Congress Thursday.
“We are not flattening the curve right now. The curve is still going up,” Admiral Brett Giroir, the assistant secretary for health at the Department of Health and Human Services, said during a House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis hearing….
More…
Republicans DONT care.
Yup Scott….
I make MY choice everyday by wearing my mask….
Former Rep presidential candidate Herman Cain,74, has been hospitalized with coronavirus.
Cain As an attendee at Trumps Tulsa Hatefest .
Six Trump staffers have also been stricken.
Health experts warned against such large gatherings .Republicans largely ridiculed them.
I am all for the stressing the importance of people wearing masks.
Can we also agree that during the very large protest gatherings in June, some of which continue to this day, those that did not wear masks also did much to endanger themselves of others. While the right to peacefully protest should always be available and honored in America, the specific time these gatherings occurred might have created other issues.
I do not recall ever seeing a comment on here stating that or much about it in the media. There is an appearance of a double standard based on political goals.
Yes anyone who attended the protests without wearing a mask is guilty of endangering themselves and others.
However, I don’t recall any protest leaders belittling masks ,questioning their efficacy , and questioning the knowledge of medical and other health experts as Donald Trump and many Republicans in general have been doing and continue to do.
Further there were far more people wearing masks at most of the protests ,whereas at Republican events masks are few and far between and at the Tulsa event they were almost non existent among the attendees.
Many Republicans in Congress steadfastly refuses to wear masks and continue to question their effectiveness ,I mean even Dr.Oz has advocated their use.
The virus is increasing in several areas lately because of young people not wearing masks and “partying” or gathering in large groups.
Demographically, these are among the least likely group of people to be Republicans.
Trump and others in office should be criticized on grounds like this, but not everything is solely left vs. right political.
I seriously doubt that the young people that are being so irresponsible are politically active at all.
As for your party and it’s role in ridiculing masks and other areas of preventative measures (the Republican Governor of South Dakota has said that No social distancing atTrumps ridiculous Fourth of July “celebration”there) , they deserve every bit of condemnation they are receiving.
No amount of “whataboutisms “ will change that.
They may not be politically active, but that also of course means they are not Republicans or people trying to make a point for Trump.
There was absolutely zero social distancing at the protests though and that went virtually without comment and when people are yelling chanting without masks or masks down below their mouths, as appeared to be the case, the risk of transferring via droplets was very present.
The medical authorities who had been saying how important masks were said that the protests should not be criticized on those grounds because “racism” itself is a health problem. People see statements like that and they think it is just all political.
Republicans see that as a political statement.
There fixed it for you.
Republicans were opposed to the protests and it had Nothing to do with these health concerns you are trying to raise.
Their criticism of the mask less protestors is hollow as they agree with them on masks.Dont wear them
They may be wrong to reach the conclusion, but when they hear ridiculous nonsense like the protests were ok in spite in the warnings because racism is just as deadly as the virus, that is how it comes across.
What both sides horseshit from CG.
For one thing protests were held outside. And while I wouldn’t have attended one due to the virus the people I know who had part in organizing them locally all wore masks and encouraged masks. Of course not everyone wore them. But there is a difference between failing to get all of those in atrendance of an event to wear them and mocking masks-as the undisputed leader of the GOP has.
It’s all he’s got…
Meaningless whataboutisms.
That gets in the way of a decades-long (depending on the age) of the posters agenda of demeaning Republicans reflexively.
I can criticize both sides. Others simply cannot.
Your so called “criticisms “ of Republicans ,other thanTrump ,are muted ,rarely name an individual and are so general in nature that they barely qualify as criticisms.
And are always followed by some whataboutisms?
Since I may not be able compete with your vitriol of over a half a century to the party it may seem “muted” to you, but I think I have actually been pretty tough on all sorts of people in politics, insofar as venting online (which we all do) counts.
You always choose just to see the only side that fits your narrative.
As do you so cut your faux outrage.
You’re just mad that your party looks so ridiculous as it attempts to essentially ignore the greatest health crisis of our lifetime.
You should be more concerned about that than your corny lectures to me and others here when we disagree.
No, I always see both sides and am willing to criticize regardless of party label.
Republican leaners are sometimes saying dumb things about masks, but the virus is literally being spread the most by people who are not Republicans, who go even further in not caring about masks.
Both can be true.
You have no proof of any of that.
Just a good ol partisan Tribalist Republican back in the fold.
Good to have you back.
Now we don’t have to hear that supercilious blather of you playing the role of some kind of nonpartisan “truth teller.”
However that was Avery Trumpian comeback.
“All them kids riotin and protestin are Democrats.”
What’s next?
They were paid by the DNC?
What proof do you need?
All political surveys will show that the younger the age co-hort, the less likely they are to be Republican, and this is a trend that has strongly increased under Trump.
Are you prepared to prosecute the High School and college kids who are having “Covid Parties” where the first person to catch it wins a prize?
“The virus is being spread the most by people who are not Republicans”
And you know that how?
Is a young person more likely to be a Republican or not a Republicans?
if you are going to try to argue against it, then you should be less confident about Biden than you are.
You’ve said most young people don’t vote.
But now they’re going to be a major factor in the election that’s your arguments.
As to Biden?Im as confident of his election as you are.
Whether these young people vote or not, they are statistically the least likely to be Republican. That is a fact.
Everyone should exercise their right as an American to vote, as I have always done and will.
Meanwhile here in SC, the beaches are all open this weekend as the state continues to be a hotspot .
SCs Trumpite Governor Henry McMaster refuses to close them .The beaches which have small police forces are going to be overrun in trying to enforce some rather ineffectual local ordinances while only McMaster has the power to do anything about it.
So hundreds and hundreds of irresponsible people are going to get infected and spread it far and wide in the days ahead.Expect an addition”spike” on top of the current one in the next couple of weeks.
According to Scott, it would be ok since the beaches are outside.
Thousands gathered outside as opposed to inside a sweaty rally? Yeah there’s a difference. Are you actually going to argue that there’s not?
There were a lot more people at the protests than were at Trump’s rally to be sure, and a lot more sweating too.
And when far far smaller protests were occurring from people upset about the shutdowns, everyone here, myself included, were commenting on on the health risks.
but when the outcome of the protest is something you agree with, the rules do not apply.
Yeah, seems like a pretty easy argument. Smaller crowds and far less sweating.
The arena had air conditioning and the people were largely sitting in seats the entire time.
This does not mean I agree with anything said at Trump’s rally, which will be the counterargument against me.
You couldn’t care less about masks at those protests .
You were against the protests.
No, I do care about people’s health and I agreed with much of what the protest was for. I just think it was a bad time to have them.
However, I admit I disagree strongly with “de-fund the police” or “ACAB” or looting or breaking things or watching young white kids literally spit in the face of cops who had no choice but to stand their stoically.
Sure the crowds were smaller–but those that were there were packed as close to Trump as possible to create the illusion of a packed house.
There was no social distancing.
And there will be none July 4 at Trump “patriotic celebration “ in South Dakota .
So decreed by South Dakota s Republican Governor.
The protests had far less social distancing and were larger. That is just a fact. Admitting a fact does not mean you have to either agree or disagree with the political purpose of either event.
But if masks were important for one, they were important for the other. There has seemed to be a double standard
Isn’t Mt Rushmore outdoors?
I wouldn’t go. People that do should wear masks. But if the protests were ok, then you have to have the same standard.
( I was just invited to a wedding.. that is taking place in just two weeks…. I feel like I have to say no to attending, which is awkward. Would you all do the same?)
Well not to you right?
Why not blame your fellow Republican McMaster?
Gee if you weren’t so “both sides” Scott might be upset!
I am sure McMaster is a sucky Governor. I don’t have a say in the elections there. When you did, you voted for his ticketmates.
Maybe McMaster “doesn’t really mean it” when he supports Trump. In case you missed it Jack that was CG’s line about Spencer Cox, who is leading Huntsmen in the GOP gubernatorial primary in Utah.
Expect to see that a lot more with Republicans he supports in the future. That they “didn’t mean” to enthusiastically back Trump.
Yes I saw that total hypocrisy.
Then he try’s to rib me about some minor office in S.C.
Hey CG “she didn’t mean it”
Hahaha.
Hoisted upon your own petard .
Maybe McMaster doesn’t. I do not know what the point is.
I have criticized Spencer Cox for backing off his Trump disapproval just to win an election. However, someone has to be Governor of Utah and I think he is the best option and would be the most willing to move in a direction I want in regards to the Trump matter at a later time.
And he’s an avid Trump supporter.
You don’t get the point?
Sure you do.
You’re a hypocrite.
You criticize me for supporting someone who supported Trump.After I explained that vote.
Now you’re supporting a full throated Trumpist.
You know exactly the point.
Cut the crap with your James like obfuscation.
And over the next twenty years ,as a loyal Republican ,you will vote for hundreds of Trump supporters!
No, i said you were correct to vote your conscience in regards to whom is best equipped to the job. Nothing wrong with that at all.
But you take a hypocritical stance against others who do the same or might do the same. You want a special exemption for yourself.
and no, i am not supporting a full throated Trumpist.
I don’t live in Utah or vote there, but that label cannot at all be used to describe Spencer Cox. Those who voted for him in the primary voted for the least pro-Trump option.
Thank you for thinking I will be alive 20 years from now.
I probably won’t be though and if I am ….
I probably won’t know I Am.
The “least pro Trumo option?”
Talk about damning with faint praise!
Yes, at desperate times you can take what you can get.
Nonetheless, Spencer Cox had a political profile before Trump and before he reached the conclusion to clam up in order to not endanger his political career and I found him impressive and a welcome voice for what the party should be.
I bet he will join many others in denouncing Trump after the next election.
None of that is true….
I have consistently said that I don’t give a damn who you support or vote for.
Apparently you forgot how this all started.
You lied and said I had never voted for a Republican.I proved you a liar by pointing out that I voted for Molly Spearman the Republican candidate for Education Superintendent.
Outraged that I has proven your Lie you then googled her(you had no idea who she was) and found out she (as all S.C. Republican candidates) has supported Trump.
You then lied and said you would Never support any Republican who supported Trump.I knew it was a lie and I’m sure everyone else here knew it too.
Like I said you were mad cause I has called you on your original Lie.
Now after berating me here ,you are supporting a full throated Trumpist and justifying it be claiming he’s the least Trump supporter or some such rigamarole.
That’s hypocrisy and it’s here for all to see.
jack i never said you hadn’t voted for a Republican. I knew a long time ago you voted for Nixon, and Lindsey Graham and Tim Scott.
(the one that claims he regularly votes for Republicans but has been unable to name a single one is Zreebs)
You claimed that I have voted for pro Trump Republicans and to this day I have not and may never do so. I pointed out that you have and your hypocrisy on the matter in terms of how all Republicans were unable to be viewed as separate from Trump.
You overlooked the red hats being worn by the candidates you voted for because you thought they could do the job better than the Democrats. I am sure they can. I just think I probably could not have brought myself to vote for them.
and yes I had heard of these politicians in SC. You know that I am a political junkie. I keep track of who holds every statewide office in the country and who is nominated for each statewide office or every Congressional seat in the country.
What I Googled was them in the red hats and praising or making excuses for DJT.
No I remember it clearly you were so mad at me about criticizing one of your Republican heroes that you blurted that out.
Your attitude here seems to be that you can offer “criticisms” of Rep ,vague and mild as they may be.You can support Trumpists (the vote thing is some irrelevant diversion as we all talk about politicians that we can’t vote for) ,even praise them..
But if anyone else here does?The you must “defend “them usually with a whataboutisms.
No surprise You’re a Republican and ,as I said earlier ,you can get off that non partisan damn both houses pose and get fully back in your home…
The Trump Republican Party.
Welcome home!
You are remembering wrong. It’s not the first time.
Believe what you want, but you seem to have a twisted definition of “vague” and “mild” and a wildly inflated viewpoint of what constitutes “praise.”
Almost every Republican elected officials in this country is a Trump supporter.
Another irrelevancy.
However now you are modifying such with such as..
“He really doesn’t support Trump.”
“He’s the least rabid Trump supporter.”
On and on.
Look you are a Republican .And you are going to be supporting Trumpists for years and your pure speculation as to who is more pro Trump and who isn’t is essentially meaningless.
I have never voted for a Trump supporter to the best of my knowledge. Every Republican nominee in high profile races I voted for in 2016 and 2018 was anti-Trump and that will likely hold in 2020.
In the future, I may support former Trump supporters (such as my “endorsement” of Joe Walsh last year) but who knows.
If I had lived in SC and the outcomes of those races were assured, I doubt I would have bothered to vote for the red-hat wearing Trump allies.
In the future, who said what about Trump and when will be very easy to verify.
Maybe that will get thrown around, in both directions.
Personally, I hope America moves to a place where we no longer have to think or talk much about Donald Trump because he will be part of the ashbin of history.
Rhode Island had her largest protests EVER over Geo. Floyd & BLM, mainly involving young people (including many high-school students).
But although the authorities were very worried about a spike two or three weeks later that hasn’t happened. R.I. Department of Health workers (likely volunteers) offered masks to the maskless, most of whom took them and wore them. And a certain amount of social distancing was observed.
It may be just luck that the protests weren’t a super-spreader in Rhode Island, but our experience shows that it is possible to use the First Amendment without endangering others.
I do not think there is data at least yet to claim any spike in Tulsa from those who went to the Trump rally (or the crowds outside protesting.)
Herman Cain getting sick is not enough reason to claim that is what happened. He is a man who has to be over 70 now who in the past had advanced cancer. Hopefully, he will recover.
The medical experts seem pretty certain that the spread in the places where it is on the uprise is young people going to bars and clubs or parties at homes.. as if life were still “normal.”
Statistically speaking, very few of them will be Trump voters.
Actually?..,.The death rate has actually dropped a few % points…..
That doesn’t mean we should relax on the masks and distancing…
I see that CG continues to lie about me not being able to name Republicans that I voted for. I have said multiple times on this site that I voted for Millicent Fenwick over Frank Lautenberg for US Senate. Tom Kean for governor and Alex McMillan for Congressman.
The only person I remember voting for in the last election was Democrat Tom Malinowski. I don’t follow local elections closely, so no I don’t remember the names of either party. and I don’t Follow state elections closely either – other than governor. Often the week before the election, I read up on the local and state candidates and decide who I will vote for, but then proceed to forget their names two weeks after the election. But I understand why CG has a need to think that I am lying. He has a need to believe that other people are just like him in that they only vote for one party. He needs to believe that to have some self respect. Because how can he otherwise criticize someone for being partisan as he loves to do – if none of us are as partisan as him?
CG is like a football fan who intensely watches the big game, only to hope both teams lose. He literally understands that the American election system is not like most of Europe or Israel where voting for a third party candidate there is not a wasted vote. But this is not Europe. Voting for a third party here is a wasted vote – much like someone who wears a NY Jets jersey to a game between the Bears and the Packers. He likes to say he has principles – but that principle is nothing more than not voting for a Democrat.
Deep down, I think CG knows that Trump has captured the heart of the GOP. So after scandal after scandal after scandal, CG still won’t root for a team at the big game. Given Trump’s corruption and ethics, CG has to share most of Trump’s core values if he is going to go to the voting booth but not vote. He just doesn’t want us to know that.
So, as has been established before, the last Republican you voted for that you can actually name was long before I was eligible to vote. We seem to both only vote for one party in contested races in the time that I have been old enough to vote (though this will be the second straight time I will not vote for that party in a Presidential race.) I have now voted in a D primary though.
the local elections are likely non partisan. I have voted for Democrats in local elections too.
But you simply are unable to name one Republican that you have voted for to serve in any office, since I have been old enough to vote. So, there is no difference between us on this partisan matter. It is possible though that I might vote for at least one Democrat this November.
I know I have voted for Republicans in almost every election. The Republicans who I have supported typically don’t win because Republicans don’t do well in either Illinois or New Jersey, and no I don’t remember their names.
Let’s end this discussion by me promising to tell you the Republicans (if any) I voted for in November and you telling me the Democrats you voted for. Will that satisfy you? Please remind me of this discussion in November. Who knows , maybe I won’t vote for a Republican this year, but almost certainly I will, and probably more than one or two – especially if I am residing in Illinois at that time as I am now.
No,it won’t satisfy him.
No one here will ever do so.
For the simple reason we are all Democrats.
In fairness, he won’t “satisfy “ me either because he is a Republican.
Which makes this continuing back and forth over who is voting for whoM ultimately futile and pointless.
I’ll reiterate ,since he erroneously implied yesterday that I had criticized his voting ,…..
I don’t give a damn who he votes for.Hes a Republican so I imagine 99% of the time he will vote for the Republican and I ,likewise ,will vote for the Democrat.
See?Whats the deal really?
Only 1% of the people you vote for are Republicans?
That surprises me because on the local level there are some incredibly terrible candidates in both parties.
Oh in any given election it might be a few more or less.
I still see it as insignificant and the larger point still stands.
Indeed, most local offices should probably be non partisan.
I know of no “Democratic” or “ Republican ” way to be Clerk of Court, Coroner, Register of Deeds, Auditor, etc. These are some typical local offices in SC.
A Jets fan should wear a Jets jersey to a Bears Packers game if they want. There’s certainly no rule against it and the NFL would be happy.
The Jets fan would get a lot less grief from both the warring Bears and Packers tribe than I would on political blogs for following my conscience.
I have also said I am “rooting” for Biden. After all, I was basically “rooting” for Hillary last time. I just can’t vote for them. That’s where you guys come in.
What does “rooting for” mean in an election?
You vote for someone or you don’t. Who you “root” for is immaterial.
Now if you live in a place with ranked choice voting it would matter if you listed the person as a 2nd choice.
But Illinois doesn’t have that and even if they did I doubt CG would list Biden as his 2nd choice.
For those who might be keeping score, Millicent Fenwick last ran for office in 1982, Tom Kean (Sr.) in 1985 and Alex McMillan in 1992.
We don’t have to keep score to know you have exclusively only voted for Republicans for over twenty years.
That should have disqualified any right that you have to critique others in their ticket splitting decisions and your claim of being an impartial political observer.
But you keep shoveling you “what about” bullshit.
I’ve watched a bunch of sporting events wishing both teams could lose. I will want a team to win strategically if necessary to benefit “my team” but that doesn’t mean I am on the field playing alongside them.
And you voted third party yourself right, rather than vote for a moderate pro-choice, pro gay rights female Republican for Governor, over the corrupt now Trumpocrat Rod Blagojevich?
Yes – I voted third party in 2006. I did not support Tropinka because she supported the corrupt Illinois governor before Blago (who went to jail) and never said she was wrong in doing do. Had Tropinka said she was wrong about Ryan, I would definitely have voted for her.
Topinka absolutely distanced herself from George Ryan in 2006. All Republicans in the state long had by that point. Ryan as Governor was more popular with Democrats than Republicans. Yes, they supported him previously in his political career, before he was indicted, just as Democrats supported Blageojevich. Most people who voted third party that cycle or even voted for Blagojevich express regret they did not vote for Topinka that year when they had their chance.
It was your right though just as it is my right to not vote for someone to the left of Obama, even as I cannot of course vote for Trump, as much as Scott would like me to.
Blagojevich did use millions of dollars, gained by questionable means, to run negative ads tying her to George Ryan, showing them dancing the Polka together years earlier. That is how politics works though, and a lot of people like Zreebs fell for it.
All Topinka had to say was “I was wrong”.
and I would have been satisfied. But her failure to do so was the equivalent of saying “I won’t oppose corruption”.
Wrong for what? She didn’t defend Ryan on what he was charged with. She voted for him as did many people, including Democrats, when Ryan’s opponent for Governor was to the right of him on social issues.
You just don’t vote for Republicans. At least not since possibly 1992 at the latest. That’s fine. Just admit it.
The current IL Governor JB Pritzker had far closer personal ties to Blagojevich than Topinka had to Ryan. He does not defend Blagojevich today but does not say he was wrong to have done so in the past. Would you have not voted for Pritzker?
I was not in Illinois at the time. I am not sure I would have voted for Pritzker. I don’t think Illinois is well run, and I blame the Democrats for that.
It was just two years ago. I do not think you would have voted for four more years of Bruce Rauner. I think you would have voted for Pritzker, despite his past ties to Blago and the recorded discussions between them.
Illinois has not been well run, under Democrats (not that Rauner was good either), but I give some credit to Pritzker and Lori Lightfoot on dealing with the Covid crisis. Things seem more stable here than other states, so something seemed to go right.
But yes there obviously is a problem in Illinois and Cook County with one party rule and the overwhelming power of Michael Madigan all these years.
So as an Illinois voter, I am likely to vote Republican this year on the state and county level (although the Democrats are likely to win.. with one possible exception) I am not intending to vote Republican at the federal level in bypassing Trump, and Durbin’s opponent. The Dem House member in my district appears to be running unopposed.
On some thread, not sure which, Scott was bringing me up regarding my refusal to vote for Biden.
He talked about ranked choice voting. I do not believe in that. However, if we had a system in which there was a runoff in which only one the two “finalists” could legally be elected, I might feel that it would be more morally acceptable for me to vote for Biden, simply to vote against Trump.
That is not the case though. Whatever vote I cast in November, even as a write-in, will count just as much as any other voter. It is also clear that Biden will win the state easily without my vote, so there’s really nothing for others to dwell on.
I also think you would have voted for Pat Quinn, when he was twice the Dem nominee for Governor.
In 2006, as Blagojevich’s running-mate, and during the FBI problem, he said Blagojevich “always does the right thing.” That was despite the fact that the two men never even spoke during their time in office together.
Quinn of course denounced Blagojevich after his arrest and impeachment but never apologized for his past words of praise. He said that was just how politics worked. Democrats did not seem to hold that against Quinn.
The advertisement I remember was her saying from some podium that Ryan was doing a great job. I don’t recall the polka. Considering how many dozens of times I saw that ad, you would think she would think she would have responded. She didn’t.
I was not in Illinois when Gov Ryan was in office, so I have no opinion of how he got elected, but he was a Republican. So now it is the Democrats fault that he got nominated and elected?
The ads were from years ago, She was a loyal Republican. Jim Oberweis, the right-winger, ran those ads against her in the primary in 2006, and then Blagojevich ran the same ads.
Blagojevich massively outspent her and despite the fact she had received a lot of Democrat support in her races up to that point (and in her races after too), people were manipulated by the dishonest Blagojevich ads.
George Ryan won a competitive race for Governor in 1998. His opponent Glenn Poshard from Downstate, was to Ryan’s right on social issues, especially guns, A lot of gun control advocates and gay rights advocates endorsed George Ryan in that race. Ryan carried Lakefront wards in Chicago that are virtually impossible for Republicans to do so. As Governor, more and more came out about corruption in Ryan’s office during his time as Secretary of State and a lot of people turned on him. As Governor, he also governed basically as a Democrat.
By 2002, every Republican in the state had denounced him and he recognized he could not seek reelection. After leaving office, he was indicted and convicted.
By 2006, it should have been clear that that Blagojevich was on the same path and the only way to defeat him was to vote for Topinka.
It was common knowledge that Quinn and Blago disliked each other. I don’t recall who initially ran against Quinn, but if he (I think it was a he) had run an advertisement alleging close ties between Blago and Quinn, I am very confident that Quinn would not have remained silent as Tropinka chose to do even though Blago kept tunning and running that same commercials against her.
Yes – I believe I did vote for Quinn twice, but I know I considered voting against him for reasons that had nothing to do with Blago. I felt that Quinn could have done more to get the budget under control.