Part of the reason Donald Trump was able to do so well against Hillary Clinton was the ‘perception’ that he had so much support thru large rallies…
The picture of large crowds played to media outlets , who loved the images….
THAT is NOT what is gonna happen with virus infection numbers rising in the area’s that Donald Trump wants do the events…
His campaign is now going to do smaller events for the time being….
And Trump is NOT happy….
(CNN)Swaths of empty blue seats and a vacant overflow venue in Oklahoma have led President Donald Trump’s aides to begin debating what his signature campaign rallies will look like going forward, people familiar with the matter say.
Ahead of the President’s visit on Saturday to Tulsa, there had been tentative plans to announce another rally for the near future, perhaps as early as the next two weeks.
I don’t think attendance at campaign rallies means much of anything.
Yea….
ALL the stories about Trump having 1/2 the place show up don’t mean a thing?
More like only one third of the place was filled.
The rallies are only important because Trump and his minions said they were and his campaign billed at as a “reset” of his reelection effort.
I’ve noticed that his defenders on social media hit back with “oh yeah, well how many would show up to a Biden rally”. Which is a pretty dumb comeback considering Biden never gave a whit about rallies and certainly wouldn’t try to hold one in a pandemic.
Obviously it does to you,but as far as being predictive of an election outcome?
No it doesn’t.
I remember in 1972 George McGovern was drawing huge crowds.
He was buried in a landslide.
I know though that you like all this pageantry and get all worked up about it so have at it!
The issue is that Trump is obsessed with crowd size and physical or otherwise expressed manifestations of success, respect, etc. It goes back to his childhood and the damage that his sick maniacal father Fred incurred on him for life.
So, people are having fun trolling Trump on the crowd size, just like they did on the stupid matter of the ramp and the water, just because they knew it would bother him, and sure enough he spent 20 minutes at the rally defending himself on that.
Ok
So?
It still has nothing to do with the election itself.
right
but it bothers him and by extension bothers his fans, and they start to worry he may not be “always winning”, etc. etc. It’s Psy-Ops.
Nonetheless, at least what I see online from Trumpists (and I don’t bother to interact with them anymore) is that they are still convinced Trump will win and win easily. Maybe they are in a circle where they just lie to each other to make each other feel better but they are just so certain that black people love Trump at numbers not being reflected in polls that and that everyone in America will be convinced by Election Day that Joe Biden has late-stage dementia.
Those same people have exaggerated Trump’s 2016 win to be some sort of “landslide” when in reality it was a 77,000 vote margin spread over three states.
It’s impossible to discuss 2020 with them in any kind of realistic way because they always fall back on “but the polls were wrong then”.
Biden could be ahead in Texas by 20 points and that would still be their fallback.
Well, then that poll would be wrong.
Yeah but my point is that just because the polls were somewhat wrong in 2016 that doesn’t mean they are all automatically wrong now. We’ve had polls since that were pretty much right on the money, or in the case of Virginia in 2017–underestimated Democrat’s strength.
It’s like if the weather forecast for rain one day last week was wrong so now you think any forecast calling for rain must be wrong now. Even if every day in between it has rained when they said it would and the clouds are dark now.
Republican presidential candidates have been averaging about 10% of the Black vote for the past fifty years or so.
Accordingly,Trumps 8% in 2016 is well within that average.With all that has happened lately ,including the fairly rapid growth in Black unemployment as a result of the pandemic, its difficult to make a factual argument for that increasing.Indeecd ,a better argument can be made for it decreasing.
Regardless, to win, Trump needs a bigger turnout among middle aged Whites which appears to be his largest voting bloc,specifically White men.
Some Trumpites I know often argue to me that a lot of those people didn’t vote last time because they considered a Trumps defeat to be a foregone conclusion.This time though they will enthusiastically flock to support him .
That might have been a good argument absent the pandemic and the resulting economic setbacks.Now though it’s difficult to buy into it.
Yeah I don’t buy that argument either. But at least it’s more thought out than the answer Ive gotten from Trumpers when I ask why they are so certain he will win again–their answer is basically “he won last time”
The newest one is “well, Bush was down by more to Dukakis” in June of 1988.
And when you stop laughing at that for a second you come to the realization that Biden actually ran for President that cycle.
True. And Trump was talked about as a potential candidate that year too.
Yes between the two of them Trump and Biden have been running for President for about sixty years or so.
That might be some kind of record.
Trump Pulls Plug on Alabama Rally
President Trump’s campaign has scrapped plans to hold a rally in Alabama next weekend amid concerns about coronavirus infections rising, CNN reports.
“Trump was slated to travel to the state ahead of the Senate race between his former attorney general Jeff Sessions and the former Auburn University football coach Tommy Tuberville, but plans were called off as state officials voiced concerns about a mass gathering and campaign officials ultimately decided against it.”