Joe Biden is cruising in the national polls….
Some of them show him with double digit leads over President Donald Trump…
ALL of them show him ahead….
THAT is damn good 5 months out….
Even BETTER?
Just about every state poll, including some in Red States show Joe Biden leading Trump….
Some states Trump won 3 1/2 years ago are also showing double digit leads for Biden over Trump….
Primary voting with the virus and all?
Strong for Biden….
Even with efforts by Republicans to suppress that vote….
People have come out…
And THAT is added to the 2018 midterm ‘wave’ for Democrats that netted them a return to the majority party in the US House ….
Pundits ALL have Biden winning the popular vote by more millions that Hilary Clinton and virtually all have the Biden in the 300+ electoral vote area…
Democrats have this so good they are looking to get a majority in the US Senate on Joe Biden’s coattails of voting, while making some more gains in the US House majority they have….
But…..
Some Republicans see things very different….
Interviews with more than 50 state, district and county Republican Party chairs depict a version of the electoral landscape that is no worse for Trump than six months ago — and possibly even slightly better. According to this view, the coronavirus is on its way out and the economy is coming back. Polls are unreliable, Joe Biden is too frail to last, and the media still doesn’t get it.
“The more bad things happen in the country, it just solidifies support for Trump,” said Phillip Stephens, GOP chairman in Robeson County, N.C., one of several rural counties in that swing state that shifted from supporting Barack Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016. “We’re calling him ‘Teflon Trump.’ Nothing’s going to stick, because if anything, it’s getting more exciting than it was in 2016.”
This year, Stephens said, “We’re thinking landslide.”
Five months before the election, many state and county Republican Party chairs predict a close election. Yet from the Eastern seaboard to the West Coast and the battlegrounds in between, there is an overriding belief that, just as Trump defied political gravity four years ago, there’s no reason he won’t do it again.
Andrew Hitt, the state party chairman in Wisconsin, said that during the height of public attention on the coronavirus, in late March and early April, internal polling suggested “some sagging off where we wanted to be.”
But now, he said, “Things are coming right back where we want them … That focus on the economy and on re-opening and bringing America back is resonating with people.”
In Ohio, Jane Timken, the state party chair, said she sees no evidence of support for Trump slipping. Jennifer Carnahan, the chairwoman of the Minnesota Republican Party, said the same. And Lawrence Tabas, the chairman of the Pennsylvania Republican Party, went so far as to predict that Trump would not only carry his state, but beat Biden by more than 100,000 votes — more than twice the margin he mustered in 2016.
“Contrary to what may be portrayed in the media, there’s still a high level of support out there,” said Kyle Hupfer, chairman of the Indiana Republican Party. He described himself as “way more” optimistic than he was at this point in 2016.
The Republican Party apparatus that Trump heads in 2020 is considerably different than the one that looked at him warily in 2016. At the state level, many chairs who were considered insufficiently committed to the president were ousted and replaced with loyalists. But their assessments would be easier to dismiss as spin if the perception of Trump’s durability did not reach so far beyond GOP officialdom.
When pollsters ask Americans who they think will win the election — not who they are voting for themselves — Trump performs relatively well. And if anything, Trump’s field officers appear more bullish than Trump and some of his advisers…..
Note….
Keep pushing Joe….
It ain’t over till it ISA over and in the Bag…..
image….trtworld.com
NEW OPEN THREAD IS HERE!
A new Public Policy Polling survey in Georgia finds Joe Biden leading Donald Trump in the presidential race, 48% to 46%.
In the U.S. Senate race, Jon Ossof (D) barely leads Sen. David Perdue (R), 45% to 44%….
Politicalwire…
Biden Maintains Lead In Arizona
June 16, 2020 at 2:36 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 60 Comments
A new Civiqs poll in Arizona finds Joe Biden leading Donald Trump in the presidential race among registered voters, 49% to 45%.
In the U.S. Senate race, Mark Kelly (D) leads Sen. Martha McSally (R), 51% to 42%.
Politicalwire….
Trump is scared of Bolton’s book…
He has Barr in court trying to stop the release…
Morning…..
An effort to knock the polls showing Biden way ahead HAS begun in the media…..
This is plain stupid to make Trump happy…
Masks are no longer required of West Wing employees, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said Wednesday, a loosening of a policy encouraged by administration health officials as a way to slow the spread of the coronavirus.
The White House issued a memo on May 11 requiring staffers to wear masks when away from their desks and when social distancing was not possible after two staffers tested positive for COVID-19. But enforcement of the policy had been lax in recent weeks, and McEnany confirmed Wednesday that the policy had changed.
“Masks are recommended but not required,” she said when asked about the protocol around the West Wing….
More…
New Ad Attacks Trump on China
A new ad from the Lincoln Project attacks President Trump for getting “rolled” by China and its powerful President Xi Jinping.
The ad will air in Florida, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona and Washington, DC, CNN reports.
Politicalwire…
Well,what would you expect Republicans to say?
“Yeah ,it’s all over?”
He, he, he….
SURE Jack!
I see no evidence that Biden is overconfident.
Indeed, as a guy who has twice before run fir President unsuccessfully,Biden is probably the last person who would feel that way.
It’s still early and given the circumstances now existing what else should he be doing?
Good….
Just pointing out that while the media is getting on with their narrative ?
Trump did do a Houdini last time…..
Yeah when CG pops in he inevitably says that all of us Democrats are being overconfident.
Of course the idea of a Democrat winning is such anathema to him he cannot have positive thoughts about it. Despite his not casting a vote for Trump (or Biden) and “rooting” for a Trump loss.
Good Morning Everyone!
Trump Campaign Uses Nazi Symbol to Identify Antifa
“In two Facebook posts, Donald Trump’s reelection campaign tied the loose network of anti-fascist activists known as ‘Antifa’ to an upside-down red triangle, a symbol strikingly similar to one used by Nazis in concentration camps to identify political prisoners, communists and people who protected Jews,” The Forward reports.
…
Facebook on Thursday took down Trump campaign ads against antifa that prominently featured a symbol used by Nazis to designate political prisoners, a spokesperson for the company confirmed to The Hill.
“We removed these posts and ads for violating our policy against organized hate,” Facebook said in a statement.
“Our policy prohibits using a banned hate group’s symbol to identify political prisoners without the context that condemns or discusses the symbol.”…
The Hill…
Good Morning People….
Former S.C. rep.Mick Mulvaney, who have served in three different positions in the Trump Administration says that his main criticism of Trump is that
“he didn’t hire very well.”
You can’t make this stuff up.
Trump hired him, eh?
Posting some potential good news here–not being “overconfident”. For those who can tell the difference
From Politicalwire:
“Not only is the topline of the latest Fox News national poll troubling for President Trump — he’s down 12 — but if you dig deeper, you see that Trump is leading Joe Biden by only 9 points among rural voters. In 2016, Trump won that segment of the population by nearly 30 points.”
The bottom really fell out for Democrats in rural areas in 2016. It looks as though that was the low point. All along I’ve said Democrats should focus on increasing urban turnout, gaining support in the suburbs, and limiting losses in the exurbs and rural areas.
The Trump campaign a couple months ago rolled out that they were focusing on “small counties” and further increasing their margin in those areas to offset lopsided Democratic wins in the cities and increasing strength in the suburbs.
This poll seems to suggest that strategy is not working.
Actually?
Except for the diehard Trump supporters?
NOTHING is working ….
And yea….
Biden needs to NOT relax and make sure he helps Trump keep putting his foot in his mouth….
Trump’s campaign seems to think the Tulsa rally will “put him in a much better mood”–and that will be key to turning the campaign around.
I’ve never seen a campaign more focused on the “mood” of the candidate than that of the voters.
We’ll see how that plays out for Republicans.
Trump lashed out at Dr.Fauci today as to his comment that he doubted that football could be played this year.
Trump wanted to know what Fauci knows about football.
What does Trump know about science?Or football for that matter(with apologies to the USFL,RIP)?
Fauci also said the Hate Fest planned for Tulsa tomorrow was not a good idea.
I’m sure Trump is also grumbling over that.
Apparently almost his entire Corinavirus task force is opposed.
Of course since Trump says the virus is fading away, who pays attention to them?
Not the attendees tomorrow.
Morning….
Somebody needed to remind the Statue Toppling Mob which side Ulysses S. Grant fought for and played a crucial part in the victory of.
and as President, he was easily he most progressive on Civil Rights of any Chief Executive up to that point, and for years after for that matter too.
It just seems like some extreme people on the Left truly just dislike America.
And extreme people on the right dislike Americans post 1955
I am sure we will hear if an Elvis statue gets toppled.
I’ve switched overt to the CNN domestic news feed….
The Reuters just went wacky …..
Update on the news feed sidebar….
CNN was terrible….
ABC News is the new try…..
ON the polling side bars…
Interesting….
Trump’s approval is jacked up a slight bit because RCP uses Rasmussen to help Trump’s numbers…
I’ll wait till the morning for ABC which has doubles it seems
Morning people
Gender Swapping Day!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8441537/Hilarious-photos-reveal-American-politicians-look-like-members-opposite-sex.html
Pence as a woman kind of looks like Ivanka.
Biden looks exactly like his sister. Pompeo looks like an older, pre-weight loss Adele.
Somebody did this with NFL Quarterbacks on a few days ago and it was kind of spooky. Just about everyone agreed that Jimmy G. was hot as a woman.
Kamala Harris looks fantastic as both woman and man.
A Jaime Harrison for Senate ad just ran on CNN here.
So, I saw one of those before I saw a single ad related to the Illinois U.S. Senate race this year.
Obviously, the Harrison people think they can raise money against Lindsey Graham through a national buy on CNN. They aren’t reaching a lot of potential voters though by such a tactic.
Jack says Harrison is running strong but beating Graham would mean a Trump ROOF FALLING IN election result…
NEW TOPIC: The New York primary is this coming Tuesday the 23rd.
Can James give us a heads-up ? (e.g. does AOC’s Democratic challenger have a prayer ? )
John Bolton has announced he will vote for Joe Biden.
Good to see even someone who strongly disagrees with the Democratic platform recognize that one’s 2020 vote is too important to throw away.
John Bolton’s interview with Martha Raddatz (sp?) will be broadcast in 15 minutes at 9 p.m. (Eastern) on ABC.
He said in the interview he will not vote for Biden or Trump, He said he will “write in a conservative Republican” and tonight he is denying having said otherwise.
Maybe Bolton will write in himself. You could join him and there would be 2 votes
John Bolton Will Vote for Biden
Former White House national security adviser John Bolton told the Daily Telegraph that he plans to vote for Joe Biden over his former boss President Trump in November.
Said Bolton: “The president does not have a philosophical grounding or strategy. He does not know the difference between the national interest of the U.S., and the interests of Donald Trump. There is confusion over the national interest and his personal interest, which is very dangerous for the country.”
Fake news. The Daily Telegraph got it wrong.
He said he will not vote for Trump or Biden. He might have voted for Trump last time, so consider it a win.
Now, more importantly, what will Colin Kaepernick do?
Well I’m glad he won’t vote for Trump again, but I consider Biden winning a “win”. Because that is the only way Trump loses. Biden must win.
Frankly, I don’t give a damn who Bolton votes for.
His book merely recites a bunch of stuff that shows Trump is ani biotechs.
Who didn’t know that?
My question is, since it was obvious to him early on what aclown Trump was,why did he hang around for a year and a half till he was essentially fired?
I never had any use for Bolton.
Still don’t.
I don’t know how that post got screwed up.The sentence should read…
…that shows Trump is an idiot.
For those interested ?
RRH elections has a review of the Ky, Vir US Senate primaries and the NC runoff vote….
Link…
Bolton calls Trump ‘naïve and dangerous’ and hopes he’ll be remembered as a one-term president
Former White House national security adviser John Bolton called President Donald Trump “naive and dangerous,” in an ABC News interview that aired Sunday, adding that he hopes his former boss will be remembered as a one-term president.
The remarkable statement made by a former key adviser to the sitting US president comes after details of Bolton’s upcoming book, “The Room Where it Happened,” leaked this week despite the fact that it remains the focus of an ongoing legal dispute.
“I hope (history) will remember him as a one-term president who didn’t plunge the country irretrievably into a downward spiral we can’t recall from. We can get over one term — I have absolute confidence, even if it’s not the miracle of a conservative Republican being elected in November. Two terms, I’m more troubled about,” Bolton told ABC News’ Martha Raddatz.
Regarding the President, Bolton said, “I don’t think he’s fit for office. I don’t think he has the competence to carry out the job. I don’t think he’s a conservative Republican. I’m not gonna vote for him in November. Certainly not gonna vote for Joe Biden either. I’m gonna figure out a conservative Republican to write in.”….
CNN Politics….
The Trump admin has announced that is limiting visa’s a broad group of immigrants from approval to coming to America until December…
The reason given is the virus
But the policy move is in line with Trump’s political agenda of demonizing immigration as taking American jobs..,
The restrictions could affect up to 1/2 million…
Trump had wanted to use this move as leaversge fir a immigration move
Morning….
Will Trump have another bad week?
The Trump administration is extending a ban on green cards issued outside the United States until the end of the year and adding many temporary work visas to the freeze, including those used heavily by technology companies and multinational corporations.
A senior administration official says the ban will stay in effect in an effort to free up jobs in an economy hammered by the coronavirus.
The ban on new visas applies to H-1B visas, which are used by major American technology companies, H-2B visas for nonagricultural seasonal workers, J-1 visas for exchange students, and L-1 visas for managers of multinational corporations.
Read the full story on BostonGlobe.com
Exclusive [to Axios]: Trump held off on Xinjiang sanctions for China trade deal
In an Oval Office interview on Friday afternoon, President Trump told me that he held off on imposing Treasury sanctions against Chinese officials involved with the Xinjiang mass detention camps because doing so would have interfered with his trade deal with Beijing.
Driving the news: Asked why he hadn’t yet enacted Treasury sanctions against Chinese Communist Party officials or entities tied to the camps where the Chinese government detains Uighurs and other Muslim minorities, Trump replied, “Well, we were in the middle of a major trade deal.”
“And I made a great deal, $250 billion potentially worth of purchases. And by the way, they’re buying a lot, you probably have seen.”
Trump continued: “And when you’re in the middle of a negotiation and then all of a sudden you start throwing additional sanctions on — we’ve done a lot. I put tariffs on China, which are far worse than any sanction you can think of.”
The big picture: China hawks in the Trump administration have privately expressed frustration that the president hasn’t used the Global Magnitsky Act to sanction Chinese officials for what many consider one of the worst human rights atrocities of this era.
Trump countered that he signed the Uyghur Human Rights Policy Act of 2020 on Wednesday.
Between the lines: But that new law is Congress’ attempt to pressure Trump to enact sanctions. Trump already had all the authority he needed to sanction China for the camps. Congress passed the Global Magnitsky Act in 2016 — a law designed to counter human rights violations like those being committed in Xinjiang, where witnesses say the Chinese government imprisons, brainwashes, and tortures ethnic and religious minorities.
China hawks in Congress, such as Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, have repeatedly urged the Trump administration to sanction Chinese officials connected to the Xinjiang mass detention camps.
But in Friday’s interview with Axios, Trump said: “When you say the Magnitsky Act, just so you know, nobody’s mentioned it specifically to me with regard to China.”
“If somebody asked me, I would take a look at it,” he continued. “But nobody’s asked me. I have not been spoken to about the Magnitsky Act. So if somebody asks me about it, I’d study it. But at this moment, they have not asked me about it.”
In his book, John Bolton writes that Trump gave President Xi a green light to continue with the Xinjiang camps — an allegation Trump denies.
The other side: While the Treasury Department hasn’t taken action with Magnitsky sanctions — which would allow the U.S. government to take harsh measures such as seizing the U.S. dollar assets of targeted Chinese officials — other departments of the Trump administration have taken concrete steps to penalize China for the human rights crisis in Xinjiang.
Since September 2019, the Commerce Department and the State Department have imposed export restrictions on a total of 21 Chinese government entities and 16 Chinese companies deemed complicit in the abuses in Xinjiang.
And the State Department has imposed visa restrictions on Chinese Communist Party officials deemed responsible for the abuse of Uighurs. Additionally, the U.S. has taken minor steps to stop the import of goods produced by Uighur forced labor.
A senior administration said he believes the U.S. government is the only government in the world that has imposed actual costs on China for the Xinjiang situation.
I also asked President Trump whether — as Bolton charges — he asked President Xi to increase China’s farm purchases from the U.S. to help Trump win in 2020. Bolton claims Trump made the request when the leaders met in Buenos Aires in December 2018….
continued at
https://www.axios.com/trump-uighur-muslims-sanctions-d4dc86fc-17f4-42bd-bdbd-c30f4d2ffa21.html
That’s DSD…..
Sill
no actual ‘deal’, eh?
Update….
The CNN News feed seems to be the way to go forward in the sites sidebar….Enjoy!
Morning People….
Primary day in New York….
Devastating NYT Sienna poll for Trump
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/24/us/politics/trump-biden-poll-nyt-upshot-siena-college.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
Mark Cuban, who pondered running as an independent–is voting for Biden. Says “Joe Biden actually wants to run a country”
https://www.foxnews.com/media/mark-cuban-joe-biden-wants-run-country
Yes…..
So true Mark….
Morning All
Morning everyone…..
Trump wins another one on immigration in the high court….
The Lincoln Project
@ProjectLincoln
Biden is the clear choice when it comes to compassionate and decent leadership. In a battle of heart, mind, and character @JoeBiden wins by a landslide. We need to ensure that’s reflected in the vote this November. pic.twitter.com/338AECInep
ABC News/Ipsos Poll shows that over three quarters of the country are concerned about contracting the coronavirus and a substantial majority think the country reopened too soon.
Morning Everyone….
If i didn’t know any better?
I’d think Donald Trump is actually trying to pull the whole country down as he walks off the stage….
Maybe I Do know better?
Then they should be wearing MASKS!
Morning…
Good Morning All who comes to this place…
Jake Tapper
The president RTs a video in which a guy driving with Trump 2020 signs shouts “white power”
He REALLY just wants to give up his day job…
His brain is just wired backwards
Josh Lederman
Breaking: Trump has just deleted his tweet sharing video of a supporter chanting “white power”
Morning….
Breaking…
Supreme’s rule AGAINST Louisiana’s law limiting abortion….
The Right hope that Trump court would weaken abortion will not be…
Post on this later…
Another bad day for Trump & Co…
PWire is OOS due to technical issues….
The City of Jacksonville has announced that face masks will be required at indoor events.
The Republicans moved their convention there after a dispute with North Carolina over similiar restrictions.
Where next for Brother Dons Traveling show?
Maybe it can be moved to international waters
No laws there!
Since the Republican Party now consists mostly of irrational people(over 60% believe the worst of the coronavirus despite All evidence to the contrary) ,who knows?
Almost anything is possible!
or to one of those Police Free Zones
I assume that Trump & Co. WILL make a another move….
Maybe Moscow?
Trump at the Jacksonville convention:
https://twitter.com/darth/status/786379528931250176
Per RCP?
Trump’s Job Disapproval is 14.8 % points LOWER than his Approval …..
Damn!
Did anyone watch the Showtime series “The Loudest Voice?”
I am thru five of the seven episodes.
I know that Roger Ailes turned out to be a very scummy person but it is hard to believe he was as bad as portrayed here. (Amazing transformation by Russell Crowe.) I find it hard to believe that he was scheming to make Trump President right after 2012. Fox News was pretty dismissive of Trump for a long time.
A few states will be holding primaries tomorrow and Utah will basically elect it’s next Governor, as the race is all but certain to be decided in the GOP primary.
I am hoping that Lt. Governor Spencer Cox is nominated. He is facing at least one candidate who is running to his right as outwardly pro-Trump but the main competitor is former Governor Jon Huntsman, a shape shifter who has alternately sucked up to both Obama and Trump as their underling.
I have followed Cox’s career for a few years now and find him to be a good example of the kind of compassionate conservative the Republican Part needs. He used to be a vocal and frequent critic of Trump. However sadly, upon entering the race for Governor, he stopped that, and joined all the other candidates in saying that he would support Trump’s reelection. He definitely tries to avoid it altogether though. I want him to win despite of this and because I know he doesn’t really mean it. He just apparently felt he had no choice unless he went along with it. I think it might have been an interesting experiment in a somewhat crowded field in Utah of all places if a Republican stood on principle (like Romney has) and said they will not support Trump. That was not to be, but if Cox is Governor, I suspect he will be emboldened to once again speak out against Trumpism.
So you are “hoping” for a Republican who says he would support Trump’s reelection because you “know he doesn’t really mean it”
Yep, what Jack said yesterday is right. You will be right back supporting Republicans who backed Trump as soon as the election is over saying they all “didn’t really mean it”
what a joke!
Everyone has a part to play….
Tom Steyer Turns Focus to Downballot Races
“Tom Steyer is turning loose the fundraising network he built as a 2020 presidential candidate to boost down-ballot Democrats this year,” Politico reports.
“Besides continuing to fund NextGen America — a group he founded in 2013 that focuses primarily on engaging and turning out young voters — Steyer will deploy his extensive email list to raise money directly for candidates and engage volunteers, as well as personally host fundraisers and events that aides expect will consistently bring in six-figure hauls for congressional candidates.”
Hickenlooper Wins Primary to Face Gardner
John Hickenlooper (D) overcame a rocky month to defeat Andrew Romanoff (D) in a Democratic U.S. Senate primary, setting the stage for a November faceoff with Sen. Cory Gardner (R), the Denver Post reports.
The Lincoln Project ,the anti Trump group made up of dissident Republican and former Republican political operatives ,is now being attacked in ads over at the pro Trump Fox News Network by ads placed by the Club For Growth, a Right Wing pro tax cut group of wealthy Republican donors.
This might represent a new wrinkle in the political media wars.
A PAC attacking another PAC!
What’s next?Maybe relatives of the candidates attacking each other ?Or how about political “strategists” attacking each other?
The possibilities are endless!
Morning….
It just get worst every hour ….
And Joe Biden is just throwing spitballs in the media and getting over…
He has NOT has miscues like Hillary…
Scott Tipton, a five term Congressman endorsed by Donald Trump, was surprisingly upset in today’s primary.
The woman who defeated him ran to his right and said he wasn’t supportive enough of Trump.
Nonetheless, the voters decided it didn’t matter what Trump wanted.
Lauren Boebert is a 33 gun toting political novice, whom conservative men will find quite attractive. Assuming she wins in November, she will likely get a lot of attention on Capitol Hill as something like the “right-wing AOC.”
It will probably be a very competitive open seat race. Her Democrat opponent is named Bush.
Elise Stefanik of New York has spoken a lot about the need for there to be more Republican women in the House, but perhaps she might have mixed emotions about this result… (as well as a potential runoff outcome in Georgia)
The GOP nominee is a believer of QAnon. You suggested she is a right wing AOC – which suggests AOC also believes in off-the-wall conspiracy theories.
What conspiracy theory does AOC believe in that you think is comparable?
Perhaps CG Believes that the country is rigged against billionaires and that global warming is a scam?
Good news, deep red Oklahoma voted to expand Medicaid last night. The Republicans will pay dearly for their opposition to healthcare coverage in a Pandemic in November.
Of course last night they threw out a perfectly sane, but misguided, conservative for a conspiracy theorist (two in as many primaries) expanding the electoral reach of the House Democrats.
It’s actually been a good week. Susan Collins got double crossed by the preppy drunk Brett Kavanaugh, we got a great Democrat nominated for the Senate in Colorado, and Donald Trump got caught, once again, metaphorically sucking Putin’s dick again (this time killing American soldiers). When do we have the Benghazi hearing?
I am looking forward to Trump’s 11 hours of testimony.
The only person against Obamacare is Trump who don’t need it…
Even the GOPer lawmakers don’t want a repeal anymore….
Really James? Name some, and get back to me when they’re named McConnell or McCarthy.
The reports ARE that Republican lawmakers have NO backup plan to replace Obamacare …
The reports ARE that THEY want the issue put on the sideline….
They ‘appear’ to be also be standing on the side line while even Republican states are now seeking to EXPAND their Obamacare programs to cover virus costs…
If it walks like a duck
Quacks like a duck
Must be a duck?🙄
Reports?
Name a Republican Member of Congress who supports Obamacare.
Medicare expansion isn’t Obamacare. You know that right?
He can’t.He does this all the time.
Besides CG ,who after all is aRepublican,James is the biggest Republican apologist here,constantly citing unnamed “sources” about what Republicans “really” think.
When challenged as you did, to name names,he drifts away into silence.
Actually Keith and Jack?
Sure….
….’Two Republicans — New Jersey’s Jeff Van Drew, formerly a Democrat, and Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania — joined virtually every Democrat in supporting the[House] bill’….
Link…
Then there IS this…
“Politically, it’s pretty dumb to be talking about how we need to repeal Obamacare in the middle of a pandemic,” said Joel White, a Republican strategist who specializes in health policy and has presented legislative proposals to House and Senate Republicans and the White House. “We need quick solutions here; we need stuff that we can do tomorrow, because our countrymen are hurting.”…
…
At least one Republican lawmaker — Representative Tom Cole, Republican of Oklahoma and a member of House leadership — conceded that the pandemic has made the electoral terrain for his party more challenging. He said he agreed with Mr. White, the strategist, that now may not be the best time to talk about the repeal….
Link…
Or?
Maybe THIS?
…
Vulnerable Republican lawmakers up for reelection have largely dodged questions about their positions on the lawsuit, as Democrats’ defense of the ACA helped the party win back the House in 2018 amid the law’s increased popularity.
Link…
Trump may say his shit….
And his buddies may follow FOR Trump’s ears…
But they ain’t supportive of his efforts to get rid of the WHOLE ball of wax even if you two thinks so….
Obamacare should have been repealed and replaced three years ago but Trump and Trumpism made that impossible.
For one thing, he is so divisive and unpopular that he lost the public relations battle and two because when Congress was attempting to do this, he sent nothing but mixed messages, including siding with the Democrats and saying Republican lawmakers were “too mean.”
So, it turned into a loser issue for Republicans (just as it was for Democrats in 10 and 14) and it would be bad politics to try to do anything now.
Except almost 1/2 million people have signed up for the coverage due to the virus and states are actually looking for MORE of it….
Ah, CG?
That includes RED states….
Even before Trump Republicans had no plan to replace the ACA.
The idea that without Trump the Republicans would have come up with some wonderful “market based” solution is farce.
Yup Scott….
Just shoveling bull shit….
There were several plans to replace. They just couldn’t pass Congress because the Freedom Coalition on the right was too hardline and would not compromise.
Nevertheless CG?
There IS NO support to do away with the entire America health plan as i pointed out…
Jack’s right to a point that GOPer’s don’t that out loud….
But with no backup and a election around the corner?
They HAVE to hope the court waits till after the election…
Repealing the law in its entirety would be a political disaster with the virus situation…
The guys know this…
CG?
The Republicans owned Congress and the WH in 2015-2017….
But NO Repeal…
So two Republican Members of the House, one formerly a Democrat, voted with Pelosi’s bill to shore up support for Obamacare. That means over 200 Republicans in the House support repeal, right? They voted no, right?
So how does this add up to your statement that the Republicans oppose repeal? Simply because some are willing to admit that the move to repeal, especially what the Republicans are doing to oppose Obamacare in the courts, is bad politics.
But, bad politics or not, they want the ACA repealed. They are on record voting and saying so. So stop apologizing for these Republicans James.
Those who will be writing the D Party platform want to get rid of Obamacare.
You could have taken a stand against that last week through a primary vote but did not.
Of course if people can think logically, it is clear there is a difference between Not Supporting Obamacare and Trying to Currently Repeal Obamacare.
Ya repeal it ?
Ya GOTTA have a replacement
So?
Ya KEEP IT?
You ARE SUPPORTING IT…
That simple
It was a combination of stubbornness and incompetence that allowed Obamacare to remain in place.
How about self interest?
The original rally cry was against the first black President , who was a Democrat…
The Republicans couldn’t contain themselves…
The images of Obama in satire in African robes and hats?
The other efforts to use race ?
If someone has a disease they have to live that cannot otherwise be treated with that doesn’t mean they “support” it.
Opposing Obamacare had nothing to with Obama being black.
Don’t cheapen yourself that way.
CG?
Republicans ran in his name….
Ran on his birth place…
Ran on his political party ….
ALL THOSE THINGs
Not one exclusively
Let’s not try to rewrite history here
That’s a bunch of crap.
Republicans opposed him on policy, just as they opposed Hillarycare in the 90s, etc.
John McCain, Obama’s opponent, vouched for him publicly, when statements were made by an uninformed bigot.
Playing the race card to dismiss any criticism of Obama is as reflexively dishonest as Trumpism.
God Bless John McCain’s soul…
He lost because he would NOT get down in the gutter with others…
CG?
People HAVE been protesting the systematic playing of the ‘race card’ in this country for centuries….
Stop being indignant…
Oh?
And Trump has never missed a chance to throw shit on the Senator and War Hero…
There would hardly be anything less productive for race relations than an assumption that somebody needs to be treated differently in the highest office of the land because of race.
It certainly is an insult to genuine racism. Of course people were racist in regards to Obama (and many of them might say that about the way you constantly referred to him as “mixed” though I do not assume you had any malicious intent in doing so), but it certainly cannot be argued that any opposition to the politics or policies of Obama were merely a matter of racial dislike.
It was partially race related ….
I HAVE and will continue to honor his mother and father by pointing out that Barack Hussein Obama had a white mother and black father….
Since Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren want to repeal and replace Obamacare, you will probably also say they are being racist.
When someone’s political goals stands in the way of what you want, you tend to go low.
He, he, he…..
Nope
They both voted and worked with Obama …
But neither would have gotten my vote on Medicare for All…
BTW?
On the mixed thing ?
Both Rice and Harris are married to white guys…
And Harris is also mixed black and east indian….
There skin color put them on the top of the list to possibly be the next Vice President though Clyburn keeps saying Biden doesn’t HAVE TO pick a black woman for his ticket…
Boebert is a flat out nut.
Yes she is and ,unfortunately ,a goodly number of Republicans share her views.
Yep. And they all have to be defeated the only way to do so now. Vote for the Democrat.
Dave Wasserman HAS pointed out that a number of Trump supported people have actually lost primaries to others to the RIGHT of Trump…
So?
While Trump could be gone?
Some lawmakers coming aboard as the Dem’s get over in Biden’s coattails will have GOPer’s even MORE hardcore conservative…
The best news of the day is that the Confederate emblem is no longer a part of any state’s flag.
The right side won the Civil War and we are all better off for it.
Probably one of the few things CG and I agree on.
And this is said from one whose maternal great Grandfather was a Lieutenant in the Confederate Army and whose family owned slaves.
The Confederates were traitors .
And were treated far too kindly by the Union after the War.Indeed that was probably the beginning of much of the racial strife that we are still dealing with today.
That the south lost the Civil War is one of the great events of world history.
Good Morning People….
The next 6 months of the year is gonna be an interesting and probably REAL bumpy ride…
Happy Dominion Day (or Canada Day), everyone.
New Open Thread tonight….
Ahem… this is post no. 119 or 120 on this fraying open thread
MoveOn PAC’s ad for Joe Biden (compare & contrast with the Lincoln Project’s
https://www.facebook.com/moveon/videos/3309436705947605/
“Dear MoveOn member,
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The husbands of Kamala Harris and Susan Rice are irrelevant (although Kamala Harris’s parents are).
Phil Gramm, Mitch McConnell and Clarence Thomas are married to women of a different race, but that hardly makes any of them mixed-race (unlike any offspring of their unions).
Yes so True DSD…..
Just adding to my conversation on Obama and his BOTH parents…