Coming out of his South Carolina BIG win and a pile on off endorsements?
A fired up Biden pushes hard….
Joe Biden COULD prove ALL of the polls pre-South Carolina wrong….
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Late-breaking polls of Super Tuesday states show former Vice President Joe Biden making big gains following his decisive victory in South Carolina and a flood of endorsements from former rivals eager to stop Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).
The final FiveThirtyEight forecast finds Sanders and Biden each likely to win seven states a piece today, although the big question is whether Sanders can run up the score in California.
In California, the biggest delegate prize, a new Data for Progress poll found Sanders at 32 percent and Biden at 27 percent, while polls from Swayable and AtlasIntel found Sanders with an 8-point lead.
This is a big change from just last week.
Most polls conducted in late February had found Sanders ahead by between 17 points and 21 points in California, suggesting that Biden is closing in fast. In the FiveThirtyEight model, Biden has gained about 7 points this week.
California will hand out 415 delegates, and a big Sanders win in the Golden State could give him a sizeable delegate lead on Super Tuesday.
Biden still needs to turn the enthusiasm around his thunderous South Carolina victory into real support on the ground, where he’s outmanned when it comes to staff and organization.
But the new polls suggest Biden has had a monumental 72 hours since winning the South Carolina primary, something a number of political observers are commenting upon.
David Axelrod, the former political strategist to President Obama, said the polls portended a sizable bounce from South Carolina to Biden…..
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Texas is crucial to Biden’s effort to make the Democratic primary a one-on-one contest against frontrunner Bernie Sanders, who’s expected to win the biggest state of all on Super Tuesday, California.
“I expect to win Texas,” boasted Cristobal Alex, a senior adviser to Biden and native of El Paso, Texas. “The polls don’t account for results in South Carolina, which are game-changing. …This is more than anything a numbers game and it’s about math.”
The makeup of Texas, though diverse like California, presents more opportunity for Biden’s brand of moderate politics when compared to the massive West Coast behemoth. Texas’ Democratic primary electorate is roughly 20 percent African American, a third Latino and 20 percent under the age of 30 — providing plenty of positives for both Biden and Sanders.
Sanders made a swing through the Lone Star State after dominating in Nevada Feb. 20 — right as early voting started, making prognosticators in the state predict those numbers will favor Sanders.
However, three-quarters of the electorate that cast early ballots are over the age of 40 according to Ryan Data & Research, a Texas political analytics firm that tracks early votes. That could be an advantage for Biden, who generally polls well with middle-aged and older voters….
image…The Dallas Morning News
jamesb says
Data for Progress
@DataProgress
Super Tuesday Polls:
CA: Sanders +7
TX: Biden +2
NC: Biden +9
VA: Biden +15
MA: Warren +2
MN: Sanders +5
CO: Sanders +11
TN: Biden +7
AL: Biden +25
AR: Biden +13
OK: Biden +7
UT: Sanders +6
VT: Sanders +41
Conducted last ~5 days via text to web.
538 goes along with this except for Mass going to Sanders…
Keith says
There were two votes for Joe cast yesterday in my household for Joe Biden. He got a grand from us this last weekend too, more to follow.
There is, of course, no reliable polling here on the race since things are changing so fast. But, I do have some anecdotal feedback. I have checked in by phone or text with at least 40 friends here in California, people who mostly track politics closely and are people who regularly give to Democratic candidates, and all of them except one held their ballots until after the South Carolina primary to vote. And all except the one who had already voted (for Bloomberg) voted for Joe Biden.
Now, they are all in the Biden demographic (over 60, educated, and financially set), but this information tracks with the fact that the State was reporting a slow return rate on ballots. And, our ballots won’t be counted until the end of the week, so early returns here (and last time Sanders won the in-person vote in California against Hillary) will favor Sanders.
The Kamala story was wrong, but I expect that she and Cory will endorse soon.
I thought the Mayor Pete and Amy endorsements were very well done last night. The Biden campaign seems to have gotten its grove back (if it ever had one) and you can tell that this all came as a surprise to the Sanders campaign by the number of times Bernie says “establishment.”
It always baffled me that someone who has spent 30 years in Congress, owns three houses, and is a millionaire can call others the “establishment.”
Finally, of course Biden would say that he was going to call on Pete’s abilities when he wins the election. They are both good Democrats (I think he should make Pete Party Chairman, a job he wanted) and Pete represents the next generation. It was smart politics, and the Morning Consult poll backs me up on this.
Time to plan that “wine cave” fundraiser.
jamesb says
I sent Biden a little less….$20 yesterday….
Scott P says
I also sent Biden a few bucks. Like I said–the guy has a great day and CG finds a way to shit on it.
Sure he’s gonna vote for him.
CG says
I didn’t say he didn’t have a good day, but some realism is warranted.
Today is likely to be a better day for Sanders than any other candidate.
And again, as far as this nomination is is less about Biden. Biden is just a warm (we assume) body. He won SC because of the backlash and the Clyburn endorsement and older voters feeling safe with him because he is a straight, white Christian male.
The question for Democrats is Sanders or “Holy geez anyone but Sanders.”
jamesb says
Sanders WILL probably get a few more delegates…
But If Biden keeps close to Sanders ?
The next round of states, with Biden’s jump in support should give him the lead in delegates…
CG says
Sanders could have well over 700 delegates by the time all the counting is done from the states today (and yes, it will take them two weeks to count California. Weed is a hell of a drug…)
Scott P says
What drug is responsible for Republicans embracing a psycho like Donald Trump
CG says
Cialis
jamesb says
The drug of ‘power’….
jamesb says
Again?
If Joe Biden somehow gets a win or tie in California?
It’s OVER!
CG says
The problem for that theory james is that there is a whole big state outside the Wine Cave and gates of Keith Manor.
Democratic Socialist Dave says
Plus the fact that it’s possible to lose the Golden State as a whole, while still picking up delegates in several of the 53 Congressional Districts, which differ from each other in many, many ways.
Think Maine and Nebraska.
CG says
If Sen. Kamak Harris is still “undecided”, does that mean she may not even vote today?
What a role model.
CG says
typo on the first name I could not correct in time… sorry
CG says
According to P-Wire, Scott’s favorite site, she is in DC today.
So, I guess California’s U.S. Senator did not bother to vote in her state’s jungle primary?
Or did she just skip the Presidential question while voting absentee because she is still “undecided? Perhaps she wrote herself in or checked the mark next to her name for her suspended candidacy.
P
Scott P says
California has early voting. Harris could have voted days ago.
My guess is she knows who she supports–but is not ready to endorse.
Jack is right. If CG is at all “optimistic” he has a hell of a way of showing it!
CG says
It is reported she is “undecided.”
So, is that just to endorse or whom to vote for? Today was the last day to vote.
jamesb says
6 more states at 8 and most of Texas
Remember it will take days to get a final for California but the net works HAVE TO make a call or they will have a stroke…
jamesb says
Rachel Bitcofer
Like Buttigieg post IA, & Klobuchar after NH, the Sanders team is watching the nom that once felt so close start to slip away
Months ago I told you, black voters are the king makers in the D Primary.
I just don’t see Sanders dominating Latino voters in CA & TX in the same way…
( If she IS CORRECT?…Mike Bloomberg will be out sooner than he thought)
jamesb says
8:00PM wave coming ….
jamesb says
Biden gets another state Alabama…
Sanders has only gotten ermine so far ..
jamesb says
Alabama could be in 60% range for Biden…
jamesb says
Ok….
If this Biden shit keeps going strong?
The market will climb tomorrow reinforcing my view that part of the own turn was Bernie Sanders?
jamesb says
Oh SNAP!
Speculation on Warren coming in 3rd in her home state of Mass which would mean she don’t make it to the weekend for sure…
jamesb says
Biden and Sanders are running neck and neck in early Mass returns.,..
Warren far behind…
jamesb says
Lull in returns as early Texas states to come in wit Mass
jamesb says
Colorado is called for
jamesb says
Biden wins Oklahoma….
jamesb says
this is early….
But Sanders NEEDS CALIFORNIA
PERIOD….
jamesb says
These numberers are NOT just Black voters….
Some pundits are begin to cry about Biden wining ALREADY!
The young voters and Sanders people ARE CRYING THEIR Robin Hood will lose?
jamesb says
Biden WILL WIN more votes tonight no matter what California comes out to….
jamesb says
ok 6 delegates
Right now unofficially?
Biden leads the race in delegates
CG says
You will definitely find that the states with the most marijuana usage will go to Sanders and those with the least will go to Biden.
jamesb says
Harris will get either VP or AG I feel….
Keith?
If Biden somehow WINS ur state?
It IS OVER!….
CG says
Sanders will win California by double digits.
jamesb says
Maybe CG…
I don’t think so…
I’d think he’d get a narrow Ca win…
But I think Biden gets a nice Texas win..
Bernie just hopes the others don’t bleed of delegates…
jamesb says
WTF is Jack?
YES!
I Cheered FOR Biden here!
Damn REAL
Joe just better come thru today!
Keith says
There appears to be some agitation here today over the fact that Joe Biden, at the moment at least, is doing very well in his race for the Democratic nomination.
I have to agree with Scott on his Amy comment. She got out of the campaign at the right time and avoided a “Kasich redo” that allowed Donald Trump to win the nomination against a fractured opposition. Kamala, Corey, Amy, Beto, and Pete will all live to fight another day. Glad to see real Democrats learning that lesson, too bad about the Republicans.
I find it amusing that people who have never set foot in the State of California are making predictions about what will happen in our primary today. I think I made it very clear that my family or friends aren’t representative of the overall Democratic electorate here, but we are very reliable voters (and informed enough to hold our ballots to see the outcome of South Carolina before we voted). So, while I expect Sanders to win, we have no idea, and won’t for at least a week, as to the delegate allocations at the end of the day. Dave reminded us all of the 15% threshold and it now seems like Joe will cross that line in almost all the Congressional delegations.
But, I have to point out that discounting the South Carolina results, results that launched the Biden comeback, something that the Sanders people are also doing, is to discount the votes of the backbone of the Democratic Party. It’s borderline racist in my viewpoint. Implying that a black South Carolinian wouldn’t vote for a gay man or were voting because someone told them to vote a certain way. Or, worse yet, they aren’t intelligent enough to cast an informed vote.
African American voters are very pragmatic, thoughtful, and strategic in how they vote (see Doug Jones) and they chose Joe for very valid reasons that were all articulated by Congressman Clyburn and Joe Cunningham for that matter. I was so pleased to see, as he did last night, that Biden called out the local South Carolina Democrats who will be running this November to unseat Ms. Lindsay and to re-elect Jack’s Congressman. This is about party building and perhaps that is the reason we see such agitation here today. Joe knows that if he is to be an effective President he will need a Senate majority. I don’t believe Sanders can bring us that majority or that he would know how to use it. That’s why I am for Joe Biden.
I need to get moving, going into SF to a party for a good friend who represents the City in the State Senate. He endorsed Warren, but we won’t hold that against him. I expect that when Nancy does step down he will represent the City in Congress. At least that’s what we are working for.
Have a good day everyone.
CG says
I would have and did encourage South Carolina voters to vote for Biden.
But he also benefited from bigotry and his win was more a case of fear of someone else than true affection for him.
Scott P says
How did you do that? Did you travel to South Carolina? Phone bank there?
And how do you know the motivations of voters you don’t know in a state hundreds of miles away?
CG says
I suggested it to our pal jack, But he already did so.
We all should know enough about politics to have reasonable theories. Why did Pete do so much worse in SC than he did in the other states? Clyburn said so himself…. older folks there ain’t down with the gay thing.
Gay or not, Buttigieg probably would have easily been the most articulate person to face down DJT on a debate stage and probably had the most capacity to unite people behind a positive vision than anyone else.
My Name Is Jack says
Probably every candidate for President has benefited from “bigotry” in the overall sense of that term.
As for “true affection?”Whats that got to do with anything?
CG says
“Who needs a heart when a heart can be broken?”
Now, a Tina Turner endorsement would have made news.
Let’s examine it though. There was true affection for Obama. There is not for Biden. Even less so than what existed for Hillary. There is true affection for Bernie but at also great fear about him. He is polarizing, just like Trump.
So, it is possible that Biden could ride this into the nomination and maybe even the White House, but it is tougher to do when you have to mostly count on people to vote against someone and not for them.
Let’s be honest. While every voter, except Zreebs here, is now seemingly for Biden, it was just a couple of weeks ago, that his new supporters were all but admitting that he looks old, acts old, and something is happening with him to cause him to not be what he once was.
Is that really a profile to not have concerns about moving forward over what is going to be a roller coaster until November?
CG says
For generations the saying was, “Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line.”
This time, it looks like if Biden is to be successful, it will be because Democrats fell in line. Not very different than how the majority of the Republican Party which had been strongly anti-Trump, fell in behind him.
All of these are signs for continued difficulties ahead for both major parties.
My Name Is Jack says
What “difficulties?”
“Both party’s supporters “fall in line” all the time.
What?
You think Republicans were all warm and fuzzy over that ol Teddy bear Dick Nixon?
Or the Boston Democrats were misty eyed for that Georgia peanut farmer Jimmy Carter?
Get real!
CG says
Nixon had a genuine base in his time.
But the two examples you cite did lead to problems for their party down the road.
Scott P says
In the summer amd fall of 1984 my diehard Republican uncle wore a hat that said “No Fritz and Tits” every tine I saw him. Never once saw him wear or eveb say anything pro Ronald Reagan. I’m sure CG wpuld have had a ball with his “motivations”
CG says
You seem to have a lot of questionable relatives. I like your Mom though.
CG says
“Fritz and Tits” was only the second most sexist nickname of the pair that season…
Scott P says
“you seem, to have a lot of questionable relatives”
Quite possibly. Most of them? Lifelong Republicans!
CG says
Most of my relatives are lifelong Democrats, although I have a couple of very wealthy third cousins who like Trump.
And then there is my father who has fallen under some sort of Trumpian spell after decades of not caring about politics, even when it was something I was very much into..
My Name Is Jack says
Not for me.
Unlike you ,I guess ,I can’t say I’ve ever had what you call “true affection “ for any politician.
I understand that politics by its very definition demands compromises in lots of matters.
The old adage,” you take your votes where you can get them” applies to everyone of them that I have known.
Personally I like Biden about as well as any of them.I really thought he was through earlier.Im still not convinced he will win the nomination ;however, support as the anti Sanders does appear to be coalescing around him so count me on board.
I’ll leave the psycho analytics to you.
Have a ball!
CG says
Because you are more “cynical” than me.
Scott P says
So last week it was “LOL no one is voting for Biden” now it’s “well they aren’t voting for Biden for the *right* reasons”
whatever
My Name Is Jack says
Yeah it’s really gotten silly here!
Too much “optimism” I guess.
CG says
Who has really voted for Biden yet?
I saw a stat that had his raw vote total in SC as several thousand votes below the runner up in the 2018 IL GOP primary for Attorney General, who lost in a landslide. SC is not exactly a large state.
Now, Biden will get votes moving forward it seems. He will mostly be getting them because he is not Bernie.
jamesb says
I saw someone say that with SC?
Biden has more actual voters than anybody…
That shouldn’t last past today i’d imagine
CG says
james is the cheerleader, I am the pragmatic realist. jack is the cynic who now tells us he never really liked anyone in politics.
CG says
In all seriousness, can anyone point to any one (or more) specific thing that Biden did in SC that caused him to be a better candidate that he was not doing in IA, NH, or the whole year before?
Did Biden improve his game, or as the saying goes, the higher a monkey goes up a tree, the more of its ass you can see, and after Nevada, Bernie’s socialist red ass was in plain slight…
jamesb says
Yes CG
Joe Biden got BETTER
A bit angry
Became available to the media
And had better debates
My Name Is Jack says
Yeah S.C. is a small state
So?
So is New Hampshire.
What?Just looking for something to say?
You have no idea why people voted for Biden anymore that why people voted for your hero Mitt Romney.
CG says
In 2012, people voted for Romney because he seemed like the only logical chance to beat Obama. They were correct. I liked Romney myself more than the average Republican. (of course Romney also had a devoted base among LDS voters for understandable reasons)
As it turned out though, sadly, Romney did not win, because too many people had more of a personal feeling for Obama, that turned out to matter more than any concerns they had about his policies.
Nobody is really *for* Biden though. They are settling for him as their fourth or fifth choice now. That’s how the game works, He isn’t Sanders and he isn’t Trump. It could work, but it’s not exactly the easiest path to the White House.
jamesb says
Most pick the better if two evils
And a LOT vote against who they do not like
My Name Is Jack says
Well thank you for making my point.
Both parties “fall in line” all the time.
I never noticed any “true affection” for your hero.
And yeah that right it’s the way things work.
You need a new topic you’ve reached the end of the line with this Rigamarole.
“True affection?” You want that ?Get a girlfriend or maybe a cuddly dog!
Voila!
CG says
I don’t think “hero” is the right word.
Out of every Presidential candidate I voted for (1996-2012), I really, really liked and believed in the candidate. The exception being John McCain, from a political standpoint. While having enormous respect for him for his service, it was a tougher campaign for me, since he was not my first choice.
But jack, I guess you are one of the rare Democrats your age who are willing to admit that JFK, Obama, whomever, never really did it for you.
CG says
Let me be clear. The situation for Biden is not any different than the strategy I suggested for Bloomberg to use against Sanders and Trump.
Biden may have more “charisma” than Bloomberg but he also has like way, way less money and is (and always has been) *extremely* gaffe prone, so it’s going to be a wild, white knuckle ride if he is the guy going up against Trump until the end.
We know jack won’t watch the debates but those that do and who will be rooting for Biden will probably be in a cold sweat the entire time praying nothing goes horribly wrong.
jamesb says
Joe Biden was the VO for a Democratic President that Currentky has numbers +60%
If THAT don’t help?
What would?
CG says
Did he get angrier? Is that what worked? I did notice he did a post -debate media appearance with a network which he hadn’t done before, but does that explain it?
His turns on the Sunday Shows before and after SC were heavily criticized, so I am not sure that did the trick.
CG says
I think we would have to agree that those who went to Mayor Pete genuinely liked him and believed in him. The same can be said for those for Bernie and Elizabeth, although they have a predominately divisive message, while Buttigieg had a predominately positive message. He has the same sort of political skills Obama has.
Biden leans more to a positive message than the negative one, but still, people are mostly for him because they feel like they have to be.
It is harder to motivate people, either as voters or volunteers under that circumstance. It’s just a reality.
CG says
Democrat primary voters seem to shrug their shoulders on the VP thing for Biden. The Sanders and Warren people think that Obama was largely a failure in substantive ways.
All VPs who run seem to have this problem. GHWB had to work very hard to win his party’s nomination as the sitting VP. He got credit for personal loyalty to Reagan (even if someone like Kemp may have been more of an ideological heir) and that seems to matter less these days and less to Democrats who want a “revolution.”
jamesb says
My experience is that a LOT. of young black voters take for granted the Obama historic presidency…..
That some would vote Sanders over Obama’s VP seem screwed up to me….
jamesb says
Yes i noticed that also Keith
Biden going down ballot Bernie doing the Trump….’Me…Me … and More…Me…
CG says
I see that Rush Limbaugh has the exact same theory for why Democrats would coalesce behind Biden than he did about Republicans with Romney in 2012.
In both cases he insists both parties know they cannot win the Presidential race, but it is just about trying to preserve as much power for themselves as possible in Congress and that by nominating both individuals it’s basically a white flag in regards to the Presidential election. (Although Rush seemed to think that other Republicans could beat Obama.)
Of course I do not believe this. I think Democrats think it is at least a good deal more likely that Biden could defeat Trump than Sanders and are acting out of that consideration. Races for Senate and Congress and who will be at the top of the ticket is part of the equation as well.
CG says
James Comey Tweeted his endorsement of Joe Biden today. Said it was the first Dem primary he ever voted in, but it is crucial to beat Trump, etc.
The Biden campaign’s reaction? They rejected it and joked about returning it to Customer Service.
Can they afford to be doing that? What message does that send to disaffected Republicans?
Does the Biden campaign even want someone like me to vote for him in the primary?
CG says
I really hope that was just the knee-jerk reaction of a young smart-ass staffer. He deserves to be taken to the woodshed for that.
You have a prominent Republican sincerely endorse you and you publicly REJECT it? How does that staffer have a job?
Zreebs says
As of this morning, I actually consider Biden a slight favorite to win the nomination – although I think he will need superdelegates to achieve a majority.
Bloomberg doing poorly in the debates helped Biden a lot. Biden needs to thank Elizabeth Warren for her effective line of questioning.
Still a long way to go and the election won’t be decided today.
Scott P says
I heard a former Republican strategist (can’t remember which one) on the radio say what happened yesterday is the kind of coordination there was not to stop Trump in the GOP primaries in 2016. Amy Klobuchar was in danger of becoming John Kasich. The candidate who could win his own state but wouldn’t get out of the way for another Trump challenger.
CG says
Sanders was probably on his way to win Minnesota, because otherwise it would have made more sense for her to stay in to try to deny him delegates from there.
Yes, it does look like Democrats are willing to do what they have to try to stop Sanders that Republicans were not able to with Trump, but four years ago, who was in the Biden position? Rubio after SC? I switched to Rubio right after SC, but then he imploded as a candidate, talk radio turned on him (as soon as Jeb was out), and he got creamed in FL.
I suppose the only option was that everyone get behind Ted Cruz just to stop Trump, but there were plenty of establishment Republicans worried about Cruz’s electability (very similar to the Sanders situation) and people in the party upper echelon seemed to like him even less than Trump.
Zreebs says
Klobuchar was up in the polls in Minnesota prior to dropping out.
Scott P says
I guess that was one of the problems with the 2016 GOP candidates.
None of them were popular enough with their fellow candidates and rank and file Republicans to rally as the non-Trump alternative.
Biden is among Democrats. Watching Pete Buttigieg, Beto O’Rourke and Amy Klobuchar to all come together on the same day and endorse Joe was unprecedented.
I’m sure CG will find some way to shit on it though.
Scott P says
Politicalwire reporting Kamala Harris to endorse Joe Biden
Scott P says
PWire jumped the gun. New update says Harris still undecided.
CG says
So negative. I’m already probably voting for Biden in a primary. Work on those who do not plan to vote for Biden in a primary, assuming you have finally made up your mind about whom to support.
Does Beto really matter at this point? Maybe he helps a bit in Texas but probably is not a great person to have visible nationwide for a general election.
Biden got all excited yesterday and said something about how Beto will be the person in charge of gun control in his Administration. This is the Beto who said “hell yes, we are going to come to your house and take away your guns.”
For sometime now, Biden (and others) have gone everything possible to try to get to the left of Sanders on guns.
That may be a good move for the nomination, but there are a whole lot of voters in the middle who are going to count out Biden because of being so far to the left on that issue.
Scott P says
Beto did better in Texas than any Democrat in a Senate race in 3 decades.
He almost knocked off Ted Cruz. It’s probably too soon for Democrats to pick it off in 2020, but it’s clear candidates like O’Rourke are making the inroads into Sunbelt suburbs that Democrats used to grab the House majority in 2018.
In my opinion he shouldn’t have run for President last year. But he got caught up in a moment.
Scott P says
I’m voting for Biden. He will easily win Missouri. I don’t mind Warren taking sone delegates that might otherwise have gone to Sanders.
CG says
“Northeastern voters are more liberal than those in the South, early exit polls show”
Wow, seriously?
and in other news, studies show that more males than females purchased last year’s Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition.
CG says
Joe takes Alabama
Roll Bide!
CG says
Biden wins Tennessee
He is the King of the SEC!
Winning primary states that eluded Mitt Romney….. hmm.
CG says
Is Oklahoma Biden’s first non-slave state?
Just channeling a Berniecrat!
CG says
This is the Super Tuesday Southern Strategy for Al Gore that never developed 32 years ago.
And Biden didn’t even have to pretend to be a tobacco farmer.
jamesb says
Biden IS leading in Maine and Mass right now,,,,
jamesb says
Biden is leading in Minn also….
jamesb says
31% in Texas….
Sanders leading…..
jamesb says
As of 10:45PM EST…CNN
Joe Biden Wins
North Carolina
Virginia
Tennessee
Oklahoma
Alabama
Arkansas
Minnesota
Massacuttes
Sanders Wins
Vermont
Colorado
Utah
Bloomberg wins..
American Samoa
CG says
Bernie wins Utah. I wonder if that tosses out my hypothesis about Bernie doing best in the pro-weed states. Utah would definitely consume less cannabis than any other state, but there are very few Democrats in Utah , and those that are there are probably heavily stoner.
If Biden wins MN, that means Klobuchar’s move to get out the day before the primary paid off big time and she must certainly think she ought to deserve the Vice Presidency over that.
jamesb says
Sanders is speaking…
Again….
Me, me, me
No down ballot…
NOTHING about the Democratic Party…
jamesb says
Nate Silver
@NateSilver538
Part of what the wins in Oklahoma and Arkansas show is that Biden is stronger with working-class white voters than Clinton was 4 years ago. That could scramble the map a bit. The counter is that Sanders is quite a bit stronger with Hispanic voters than he was 4 years ago.
CG says
We are going to see this come down to a battle between a coalitions of young white liberals and Hispanics vs. older white “moderates” and African-Americans.
Fascinating
CG says
Bernie is really going after Biden.
Four years ago, he would barely even mention Hillary.
CG says
Biden is speaking now. He should try to take a Presidential tone, but instead he is acting like a guy who is surprised and thrilled that his latest colonoscopy turned ok.
jamesb says
Sanders admits he doesn’t know what will happen…
jamesb says
Bernie Sanders interjected some doubt in his speech
jamesb says
Texas 42% in…
Sanders by 5%
jamesb says
BREAKING….
Steve Kornacki Projections @ MSNBC…
Joe Biden COULD come out of tonight with MORE delegates …
Delegate numbers as of 10:50PM EST
Biden….265
Sanders..186
Buttigieg.26
Warren….14
Bloomberg.9
jamesb says
Texas 42% in
Sanders…
Biden…
Mass 39% in
Biden
Sanders
Warren
jamesb says
RIGHT NOW….
Delegates
Buden…..144
Sanders ..101
Scott P says
CG can snark all he wants..
Biden winning Minnesota.
On the verge of winning Maine and Massachusetts?
Joe may have stumbled out of the gate. But who is “rarely wrong” on their prediction on Biden now?
It sure as hell ain’t CG.
It might be James.
CG says
I think we all have been wrong on a bunch of things related to this race and the last Presidential one. I think there will be a contested convention though.
Campaigns seemingly do not matter anymore. It’s all about peaking at the right time. Biden is winning states he never campaigned in, had no staffers in, and spent virtually no money in. Why? Because he wasn’t the person the voters were scared of.
This all leads to my theory that it would be possible for a third party contender to win if they peak at the right time.
Scott P says
Were ifs and buts candies and nuts we’d all have a Merry Christmas.
Sorry one of my grandmas old sayings.
There won’t be a third party bid.
What’s amazing to me is Biden spent a fraction of 1% of what Bloomberg spent on Super Tuesday.
Biden–5 states and counting and 248 delegates (75 ahead of Sanders)
Bloomberg got American Samoa. Did he promise to bankroll Dwayne Johnson’s passion project and The Rock turned out all his family for Mike?
CG says
Bloomberg should have tried the third party route all along and not moved as far to the left., just as an insurance policy of Sanders vs. Trump.
But these results are definitely showing that retail politics matter less.
Biden was rushed on stage by left-wing protestors. It’s time to get him Secret Service again.
jamesb says
Biden gives his speech…
His promises ARE center left….
He gets several protestors who are hustled out…
His wife and sister on the dais with him…
Mentions, Beto, Klobuchar , Clyburn, Pelosi
Mentions people want a Democrat…Life Long Democrat…
This speech is a variation of the South Carolina speech…
“Battle for the soul of America
We can’t be like him…
We need someone who can heal…”
jamesb says
Bloomberg TOOOO late….
Bloomberg $$$$ hurts him with Democrats who do N OT want another fucking Rich guy…
Bloomberg debate performance terrible…
jamesb says
The candidates should be getting Secret Service detail’s fairly soon just Biden and Sanders…
Biden being rushed on stage is something that should be worrisome …
(Trump probably wouldn’t want do it…But it needs to be laid on)
MSNBC women talking heads are tripping about Warren…
Warren should be gone soon…
CG says
I didn’t quite see what happened, but you don’t want something like that occurring.. (especially on a Primary Night in Los Angeles..)
jamesb says
It wasn’t bad…
Just sign wavers…
And some people do NOT like the start of the details which shield candidates from the public…
But safety IS a concern…
CG says
He had Secret Service for over 8 years.
If things turn out for him the way you want it to, then they will be a part of his life starting this week until the end, hopefully many years from now.
jamesb says
Oh, I agree…
CG says
If Obama does not give some public indication of support for Biden tomorrow, (or ahead of the IL primary at the latest), then there seems to be more to that story.
jamesb says
Texas is STILL voting….
jamesb says
Los Angles and other California polling stations have LONG lines that could have voting for hours…
jamesb says
Remember Professor Obama?
He won’t do anything I think overt until he KNOWS Joe has it or is in trouble….
After tonight?
He may feel Biden’s doing fine on his own…
CG says
If only he were that cautious about Obamacare or other policy matters, there might be many more Democrats still in office nationwide.
There is legitimately no reason for him to not express support for Biden now, unless Obama feels like he has a reason not to.
jamesb says
Oh Shit!….
Joe Biden did NOT campaign in Mass…
NBC just projected HE wins Masscutttes….
Elizabeth Warren NEEDS to drop out….
CG says
Well, Sanders returned the favor to her in MA, that she has done to him in the other states.
I remember how surprising it was in 2008 when Hillary won MA, after Obama had the Governor and Ted Kennedy, etc,
CG says
Sanders wins his home state
Biden wins Warren’s state, the state where she was born (OK), and the state where Bloomberg was born (MA)
Bloomberg wins the territory where Tulsi Gabbard was born.
jamesb says
Delegate race @ 11:03 NBC
Biden…..277
Sanders…236′
Buttigieg 26
Warren… 16
Bloomberg 9
jamesb says
Steve Kornancki
Texas delegate margin will probably be VERY small…
jamesb says
delegate race.NBC @11:22PM
Biden… 293
Sanders..248
Buttigieg 26
Warren….16
Bloomberg 9
jamesb says
delegate race Bloomberg 11;13PM
Biden….342
Sanders..232
Buttigieg.26
Bloomberg 25
Warren….21
Gabbard….1
jamesb says
Nate Cohn
@Nate_Cohn
Remember, these early, early votes in CA–received more than 3 days before the election–are highly unrepresentative. They’re really old–bad for Sanders–and early–bad for Biden. Expect them both to gain in the later count
jamesb says
NBC and CNN are NOT calling California
jamesb says
Joe Lockhart
@joelockhart
The Democratic “establishment” is not delivering wins for Biden tonight — Democratic voters are doing it. Blacks, Latinos, suburban women, college educated and working class. It’s insulting to these voters to suggest they are being coerced.
jamesb says
Marianne Williamson
@marwilliamson
Jake Tapper referred to the “resurrection” of Joe Biden’s campaign. This was not a resurrection; it was a coup. Russiagate was not a coup. Mueller was not a coup. Impeachment was not a coup. What happened yesterday was a coup. And we will push it back.
jamesb says
Maine…88% in 12:22AM
Biden…33.7
Sanders 32.3
Warren..16.7
…
California….
Sanders 26.6
Bloomberg. 18.8
Biden…17.3
28%in
Sanders by 144,000 votes in California…
…
Texas….60%in
Biden moves ahead by almost 30,000 votes
jamesb says
California moves back to…
Sanders
Biden…
Bloomberg…
jamesb says
I’m out…..
Be back in the morning….
jamesb says
Dave Wasserman
@Redistrict
Developing: Sanders is down to 15.4% in Alabama w/ 30% reporting. If he falls below 15%, then Biden will win *all* the statewide delegates in Alabama. That’d be close to lights out.
CG says
Bloomberg should have skipped debates in states he was not running in and if he insisted, he needed to be better coached and have better joke writers. I could have solved these problems for him for just a few million.
Irregardless, Bloomberg was still a big part of the effort to raise the doubts about Sanders as a nominee to a critical mass, bringing about a counter movement against him.
jamesb says
I agree that Money Mike thought his money would get him things…
Nope…
CG says
It might have gotten him exactly what he wants..
stopping Warren/Sanders
In any event, he has enough of it not to miss it too much.
jamesb says
I do NOT agree CG…
There will be NOT contested convention….
Biden has won in the South and Oklahoma…
He is in it is Texas…
CG says
Can he get to 1991?
And I don’ t mean the year.
CG says
Biden wins Arkansas, a state he did not visit and put nothing into.
He even has a new grandchild there too.
jamesb says
As of 11:00PM EST…CNN
Joe Biden Wins
North Carolina
Virginia
Tennessee
Oklahoma
Alabama
Arkansas
Minnesota
Massacuttes
Sanders Wins
Vermont
Colorado
Utah
Bloomberg wins..
American Samoa
CG says
It doesn’t look like anyone is getting 1991 votes. I will really want to see that aspect of the convention (the speeches may be a lot to stomach.)
I am already taking a week off this month, can I do another one in July? hmm
jamesb says
Politico calls California for Sanders…
I don’t see any of the other places doing that….
Remember….
There are still people voting….
And the final count is N OT expected for days with early ballots…
jamesb says
NBC ….
Texas someday vote going HEAVILY for Biden…
CG says
They said early vote was plus 11 for Sanders and same day vote was plus 11 for Biden. The exit poll shows a tie.
Does anyone else have any concerns about the perils of early voting?
jamesb says
After Florida in 2016 failure’s?
No way!
jamesb says
POLITICO
@politico
Trump’s former attorney general Jeff Sessions finished well short of a majority in his Alabama Senate primary.
He now faces a runoff against former Auburn football coach Tommy Tuberville
CG says
In terms of total raw vote from all the places voting today, I expect Sanders will have the most votes.
But of course, it is about delegates, like it has always been, just like it is about the EC , as it has always been.
jamesb says
Kornancki @ NBC doesn’t think so right now…
CG says
Roy Moore easily in single digits in Alabama.
The “Teens” are safe!
CG says
Of the 7 Bushes who have ever sought public office, George P. remains the only one to win his first race. The other 6 all lost their first race. The only other one to not win a nomination (Prescott Jr) never ran again.
Trivia question-
Whom is the only Romney never to lose a political contest?