More state governor’s issue only essential travel and distancing rules for their states each day…
In the next week?
Trump is sure to move to cut back those travel and social distance limits for some area’s…
BTW?….His travel advice for New York City is the same as NY Governor Cuomo’s is…
If President Donald Trump insists on reopening parts of America as soon as next week, he’ll likely encounter bipartisan resistance from governors who are partnering in regional alliances to keep the coronavirus at bay.
Minnesota’s Tim Walz has started conversations with his counterparts in North Dakota and Wisconsin about an upper Midwest pact to ensure that their states are in sync on rules around social distancing.
That effort follows Connecticut, New Jersey, New York and Pennsylvania joining last week to announce the closure of bars, movie theaters, malls and bowling alleys — all to try to avoid a patchwork of lockdowns and orders to close businesses.
The governors and public health experts say the localized lifting of restrictions could create new clusters of disease that leave officials chasing the outbreak well into the summer.
“We will combat this virus by working together and remaining consistent across our borders,” said Connecticut Gov. Ned Lamont….
But such alliances could become a source of friction as the White House weighs gradually lifting lockdowns in less hard hit areas — the latest indication the administration is itching to have some regions reopen for business. The plan comes on the heels of a historic surge in jobless claims….
My Name Is Jack says
The University Of Chicago polled the leading economists in the country.No one ,let me repeat that, not one supported Trumps absurd plan.These economists represent all shades of economic opinion from Left to Right.
Dr Fauci today predicted millions of infections, known and unknown, with 100000-200000 deaths.
Accordingly, I’m no longer sure what Trump will do.
One things for sure ,if he does,then, as Lindsay Graham said he will “own” the ensuing deaths.. Anyone who supports this is a damn Idiot.
jamesb says
My bet is Trump goes thru with some sort of easing…
jamesb says
Wash Post says almost 700,000 cases already….
NYC, Wash State and Ca numbers will drop as they took strong action that others are beginning to move to…
In other countries the worst has last for 4 to 6 weeks….
That could put America coming up on the midpoint… It will get worst before better…
Fauci is making a educated guess…
Could be right
or wrong….
Trump’s people , including the experts, ARE gonna change the blanket restrictions this week…. Governor’s have this coming to their laps…
My Name Is Jack says
You’re laughable and your ignorance is palpable.
jamesb says
Breaking….
I am Happy to report that Trump has BACKED OFF changing the CDC travel and social distancing rules…
He will leave then in place for another 30 day til April 30….
My Name Is Jack says
Trying to change your tune eh?
Typical of you.
In other words Trump backed down .I said earlier that what he would do was up in the air.
You , however,engaged in blatant “wishcasting “ with your “ bet” that he would ease restrictions.
jamesb says
I said April 15
I was wring on THAT
I have no problem with being wrong…
Your state IS doing what it wants as i pointed out IS the case…
jamesb says
Remember …,
Trump and the Governor’s CAN change their minds anytime…
jamesb says
My hope is that the numbers come down to a manageable level…
The stress on people and the economy is NOT. good thing ….
Again?
Hopefully thing change for the better sooner than a month from now and my wife and i can actual see our grand children in person , not on line….
My Name Is Jack says
Wow!
That’s a surprise!
You “ bet” Trump will do what you want?
I mean who would have thunk that?
Democratic Socialist Dave says
On the flip side (since Jack is both a lawyer and a South Carolinian, perhaps he could give us more information):
SC cities should not issue individual stay at home orders, SC Attorney General says
Alan Wilson issues opinion Friday
WYFF, NBC 4, Greenville, S.C.
COLUMBIA, S.C. —
South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson issued an opinion Friday saying local governments do not have the authority to exercise emergency powers that are delegated to the governor by state lawmakers.
Some cities in the state have enacted “stay at home” orders to try to reduce the spread of the COVID-19 virus. However, the attorney general’s opinion cites a previous opinion from September 5, 1980, relating to mandatory evacuations by towns, cities and counties. That opinion concluded that only the Governor was empowered to exercise extraordinary emergency powers under Section 25-1-440. The opinion points out “there is no enumerated power expressly conferred upon such political subdivisions as would reasonably include the extraordinary authority.”
“This conclusion that the Governor’s emergency powers preempt those of counties and municipalities is equally applicable to the pandemic created by COVID-19. Accordingly the 1980 opinion is affirmed and is provided as guidance to counties and municipalities,” today’s opinion says.
The opinion stresses that while local governments retain their Home Rule powers during a state of emergency, they do not have extraordinary emergency powers. “They cannot exercise the emergency powers delegated to the governor by the General Assembly,” the opinion says.
It also points out that these powers, even at the state level, are subject to applicable constitutional limitations and refers to the office’s opinion issued March 24 to Chief Mark Keel regarding enforcement of a state law concerning groups of three or more gathering. Those limitations include fundamental constitutional protections of freedom of religion, protections of the family unit and the freedom of assembly for political purposes.
The opinion concludes by saying, “counties and municipalities should be aware that any unauthorized exercise of such emergency powers could subject these political subdivisions to liability at the behest of a private citizen with requisite legal standing.”
On the flip side, Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves clarified that a recent Executive Order was providing a statewide limit on sit-down dining, but not (as earlier widely believed) prohibiting local authorities from issuing even stricter guidelines for their own jurisdictions:
Governor clarifies executive order that had local mayors scrambling
Posted Mar 26, 2020
By Warren Kulo | wkulo@al.com
OCEAN SPRINGS, Mississippi — When Gov. Tate Reeves issued an executive order Tuesday which said restaurants and bars could offer in-house dining provided they didn’t exceed a 10-person limit, local mayors immediately began scrambling for clarification.
All four Jackson County municipalities, along with most others on the coast, had already implemented emergency proclamations which restricted those businesses to carryout, drive-thru or delivery services.
Knowing that state law supersedes municipal law, local officials and business owners alike were initially under the impression businesses could reopen.
“It was hectic,” said Ocean Springs Mayor Shea Dobson. “We were scrambling, trying to figure out what to do. Everyone was confused. The language was pretty clear that the (executive order) was superseding what we had put in place.”
The section of Executive Order 1463 pertaining to restaurants and bars reads as follows, with the section which caused the uproar in bold:
“From the date of this Executive Order until April 17, 2020, restaurants, bars or other dining establishments shall suspend dine-in services unless able to reduce capacity to allow no more than 10 people to be gathered in a single space at the same time where individuals are in seated or otherwise in close proximity to each other. However, the use of drive-thru, carryout or delivery options is allowed and encouraged.”
Dobson said they had been told by the end of the day Wednesday that it wasnot Reeves’ intent to override regulations already put in place by municipalities. During a Thursday afternoon press conference, Reeves’ acknowledged as much.
“The way the order is intended to work is that it is a statewide order that applies to all businesses,” Reeves said. “If any municipalities want to use their emergency powers — and a lot of them do — that’s perfectly fine.
“If they want to go beyond what the state order says, that’s fine, as long as their order isn’t in direct conflict with what the state order says.”
Reeves said the intend of his order was to provide a minimum state standard, whether individual municipalities opt to implement stricter regulations or not. He added he was in the process of drafting a new executive order clarifying the first.
Dobson said he fielded calls all day Wednesday from business owners and other concerned citizens over the confusing state order.
“Ultimately, I was able to put out a (Facebook) post clarifying it for everybody,” he said. “We did have to go back and tell some businesses that we had told earlier in the day could open that they could not.”
Once he received that clarification, Dobson said he understood the governor’s intent.
“The executive order is just a baseline,” the mayor said. “It sets a minimum standard for the state. I get that. There may be some small restaurants in some rural areas where they might be able to make that (10 person) limit work, but it definitely didn’t work for the coast.”
Where Reeves’ executive order will have a greater impact is on businesses located in the unincorporated areas of the state, including Jackson County. As of Thursday afternoon, Jackson County had yet to implement any restrictions on business….
gulflive.com
jamesb says
The situation IN SC WILL be the situation in a LOT of places….
This IS about the states and Trump WILL lay the blame on EVERYTHING on the governors….
Knocking me isn’t gonna change a thing…
My Name Is Jack says
What “situation” in SC ?
Democratic Socialist Dave says
I’m not sure if James understands the comparison or contrast I was making, between Trump suggesting he might try to override various governors, and state governments trying to override their municipalities (“creatures” in constitutional law).
So what are Jack’s thoughts about the S.C. Atty-Gen’s legal opinion that the Palmetto State’s cities, towns and counties are unable to declare a local state of emergency ? Jack must know immensely more than any of the rest of us about South Carolina’s constitution and laws.
My Name Is Jack says
The AGs opinions are just that…an “opinion.
They do not have the force of law.
The Mayors of their beaches and the Mayors of the cities that have adopted emergency declarations have stood steadfast.
The AG immediately announced that,having issued his “opinion” he was doing nothing else.
The Governor likewise has done nothing either,likely afraid of the political repercussions as the beach communities are solidly behind the Mayors in their shutdown orders.
Maybe after this is all over some “libertarian” type will sue,claiming he was deprived of a day at the beach in the midst of this national emergency .
Good luck with that.
As for James?Not understanding things is his his trademark.
jamesb says
Trump CANNOT overuse State governor policy on this…
He wouldn’t…
He didn’t …
He probably cane to realize that his attempt would fail at the tine things would be getting worst outside NY and other hot spots…
jamesb says
This IS a win for the governors and Americans…
We’ll see which governors move to bring in restrictions that haven’t already…
Some won’t …
People ARE learning to cope…
Hopefully there can be more testing and the same thing that happened abroad can happen here is the virus leveling out and declining…
jamesb says
Remember the CDC and Admin have released GUIDELINES….
The governors do executive ORDERS….
The governors have the flexibility to go harder or cut back…