With NO Democratic results released?….
Here we GO!
Joe Biden’s core message was electability, but the former vice president failed to consolidate support among the majority of Iowa caucus-goers who said choosing a candidate who can beat President Trump was their first priority, according to preliminary entrance polls conducted Monday night.
Just under one-quarter of electability-focused voters supported Biden, while a similar percentage backed former South Bend, Ind., mayor Pete Buttigieg. Sens. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) each drew about 15 percent support among this group.
By contrast, Biden received only 5 percent support among caucus-goers who said it was most important to nominate a candidate they agree with. Sanders led among this group with 36 percent support.
Because of technical problems, no winner has been called. In fact, the state Democratic Party has still not released any official numbers. It’s therefore important to emphasize the preliminary and anecdotal nature of what we know, but there’s a body of evidence that points to a bad night for Biden.
“It’s a very close race among the top three candidates (Warren, Sanders, Buttigieg) and Biden came a distant fourth,” tweetedWarren chief strategist Joe Rospars.
“With the numbers we’ve seen internally and publicly, we’re running even or ahead of Vice President Biden,” said Klobuchar campaign manager Justin Buoen.
Biden campaign manager Greg Schultz pushed back on his counterparts. “Our own model shows that Biden overperformed in key districts we needed to be competitive in and we feel confident that this is a tight race with bunched up candidates,” he said in a statement that offered no specifics or numbers. “When it comes to the final outcome of the caucuses, this is still a competition for delegates, and the winner will continue to be based on State Delegate Equivalents. We believe that we have won our fair share of them.”…
Pete Buttigieg plowed ahead Tuesday with his claims of victory in the Iowa caucuses despite no reporting of results from the state Democratic Party, as he blitzed the morning shows to try to solidify the narrative that he was the clear winner.
In a memo released early Tuesday morning, Buttigieg’s campaign shared its unverified internal data from more than 1,200 precincts.
“It was an extraordinary night, and we are absolutely victorious coming into New Hampshire,” Buttigieg said in an interview on “CBS This Morning.”….
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) pledged to supporters that he would do “very, very well” when the results of the Iowa caucuses finally come in — whenever that may be.
The caucuses descended into a debacle late Monday night as results were delayed past midnight Eastern Time.
The reasons for the delay remain unclear, although there have been persistent reports that an app used for reporting results malfunctioned.
Sanders addressed the problem at the beginning of his remarks, noting wryly that he had a “strong feeling that at some point the results will be announced.”
Sanders had been the favorite to win the caucuses, where he has led in most recent polls and drawn larger crowds than any other candidate.
But there is no way of knowing yet whether he has been deprived of a critical boost or has avoided a political embarrassment by the delay in the results….
image…VanityFair…
I was rooting for Biden to take Iowa last night but reality needs to set in.
If they release the results and he finished Fifth, he needs to end his campaign immediately. There are too many people to jump over, no matter how much they want to complain about the botched results. This is especially important if they want to stop Sanders before Sanders becomes too strong to stop (i.e. what happened with Trump last time in his party)
If he finished fourth, I guess he can go on if he wants, but that pretty much means that anything worse than 2nd in NH would end the campaign for Biden next week. With all the advantages he had, a 4th and a 3rd is not good enough to continue to SC, especially if someone else needs to be given a shot to stop Sanders.
ok, the caveat is basically the Jeb Bush scenario from four years ago.
If he finishes 3rd in NH, behind only Sanders and Warren (and not Pete or Amy), he can go on to SC, but then SC is a 100 percent must win with no doubt. If he loses to Pete though in both IA and NH, then it’s time to give up the ghost and unite to stop Sanders…. (and by this time, Warren will pretty much be done for which will benefit Sanders.)
Buttigieg will have his chance against Sanders. If he can’t do it, then you gotta turn to Bloomberg, his money, and all the panic and buyer’s remorse you can summon. And if that doesn’t work, hope that Trump’s second term impeachment sequel goes better.
I’m not counting Biden out yet ,regardless of the outcomes in Iowa or New Hampshire.
I agree though that he Must win S.C.Hes still leading here and while I cant see Buttigieg catching him, Sanders could make it close.
I agree that Bloomberg is being helped by this.
I see he’s commiting even more financial resources as a result.
Patience and Persistence CG…..
KC had it so should Joe Biden
Biden is not Patrick Mahomes. He’s more like the 84 year old Len Dawson at this point.
Please re-read my summary of the states going up to Super Tuesday….
Then read below….
Dave Wasserman
@Redistrict
Ask yourself which is most likely:
1) Sanders wins IA/NH & comes out ahead on 3/3, less left-leaning voters “fall in line”
2) Biden rebounds strongly in SC & 3/3, more left-leaning voters “fall in line”
3) Neither wing caves, multi-way protracted fight all the way to Milwaukee
I STRONGLY doubt Wasserman #3
I’m NOT alone….
PChill708
@PChill708
Replying to
@Redistrict
Probably 2. Super Tuesday is so favorable to Joe. I think we are reading a lot into these early, non-Representative states.
Is PChill708 one of your friends or sons?
Never heard of that handle….
lol
Biden was never a skilled campaigner.
Did anybody else actually see Biden’s “speech” last night?
It was very uncomfortable. I felt bad for Jill who clearly was recognizing that as well.
If somehow Biden pulls this out ,there’s probably a record there.
I can’t think,at least in modern times, of anyone winning a presidential nomination after having first sought it 32 years before.
I think Bernie Sanders might have run for President under the Liberty Union banner in 1972…
Wiki says he ran for Governor of Vermont in 1972 .
Doesn’t mention a presidential campaign .
I think he might have run for everything that year. They can do that in Vermont.
I listened to Biden’s speech.
You are clearly exaggerating because for some reason even though you were “rooting” for Biden you can’t seem to say a single positive thing about him now.
listen or watch? either way, it was bad. No way to spin it, unless you had the word “folks” for your Devils Triangle Drinking Game.
Devil’s Devil’sTriangle is a three some. How many times do we have to tell you that. And “booting” isn’t darting. It’s fucking
Boofing
Oh, that’s so dumb. It’s all about drinking. All drinking games that I have ever heard of have either “Devil” or “Satan” or some sort of profanity-laced insult in the name. (The only one I have ever played is Beer Pong.)
And I think a Deval’s Triangle consisted of the three people who Caucused for Gov. Patrick last night.
Boofing sounds just like “barfing.” I think it was also in the ’80s movie “Stand By Me” when during the pie-eating contest, the character “Lard-Ass” boofed all over the Mayor’s wife’s…..
Those privileged white Gentile kids would drink so much they would barf/boof. Then they went to college and joined frats. I’m sure you’ve seen it.
Actually, when you look up “boofing”, on the iternts it is referring to ingesting alcohol through the rectum. Still a form of drinking I guess.
Actually, didn’t “boof” mean flatulence? Not my sort of humor, but it’s definitely something ass-related.
Joe Biden STILL IS the frontrunner for the 2020 Democratic Presidential nomination…..and Will be no matter who eventually wins the popular vote there and the delegates
My goodness, you have bccome Baghdad Bob.
james if you are right and still think Biden will be the nominee, you should go to the plethora of betting sites. You can get great odds today on that and potentially make a lot of money.
We are now working on Sanders internal polling ?
Team Bernie sends new internals. Notably nothing on delegate totals but does have him winning after realignment
Sanders 29%
Buttigieg 21
Warren. 19
Klobuchar 12
Biden 12
rounded off
should equal 12 delegates Sanders
5 delegates Biden…
No he isn’t.
Interestingly, Biden ,who has been a presidential candidate twice before,in 1988 and 2008, has never won a presidential primary or Caucus.
In both of his previous campaigns he was eliminated fairly quickly.
I admit that Joe come across a bit TOO reserve in today’s media driven on camera politics
But Joe’s calm also helps him with older voters….
He’s not gonna change much…
Mike Bloomberg is already running TV ads in Rhode Island, and will stop over in Providence (RSVP required) tomorrow.
He’s counting on Super Tuesday (March 3rd), when Massachusetts will be one of the contested states, but Rhode Island doesn’t vote until 8 weeks later (on April 28th).
I’ve seen plenty of Tom Steyer ads but none yet for Andrew Yang.
Bloomberg is running advertisements in most places – including NJ – which I don’t think votes until June.
The issue for Mike Bloomberg IS Super Tuesday….
If my scenario is right?
Bloomberg will be locked out of the race by March 4th….
If I’m wrong he has a chance…
“Joe Biden’s third presidential bid enters a critical stretch after a disappointing finish in the Iowa caucuses sent the former vice president on to New Hampshire with a skittish donor base, low cash reserves and the looming threat of billionaire rival Michael Bloomberg and his unlimited personal wealth,” the AP reports.
“That leaves some establishment Democrats, including some Biden supporters, questioning his contention that he’ll reclaim clear front-runner status in the race against President Trump once the primary fight moves beyond overwhelmingly white Iowa and New Hampshire to more racially diverse electorates. And it’s a reminder of how Biden’s previous presidential campaigns never advanced beyond Iowa.”….
Politicalwire…
You’re right, Zreebs, N.J. doesn’t vote until June 2nd (together with D.C., Montana, New Mexico & S. Dakota).
With an eye towards New Hampshire (which does receive Boston stations, but not Providence ones) next Tuesday, I saw no fewer than four ads during the live post-SOTU Late Show with Stephen Colbert on CBS’s Boston affiliate, including the first I’ve ever seen for Tulsi Gabbard and Bernie Sanders-2020 (remember how early and how widely Sanders’ generic feel-good commercial ran in 2016). The other two were from Steyer & Bloomberg.
Since, perhaps because I don’t often watch Boston commercial stations (rather than their equivalents in Rhode Island), I have yet to see ads for Sen. Warren, Sen. Klobuchar, ex-VP Biden, ex-Mayor Pete or Andrew Yang (Mr. Math).
Nor, with Massachusetts voting on Super Tuesday 3 March, have I yet seen any ads for Massachusetts’ other favorite children, former Governors Mitt Romney and Deval Patrick — while Providence stations do broadcast to significant numbers of Bay State voters in Fall River New Bedford, Taunton and the rest of Bristol County, Mass.