A LOT of people ain’t gonna like the Real Clear Politics averages….
First of all?
New Hampshire is the first Democratic Presidential primary voting state…
The averages there REMAIN what they where before Iowa….
Sanders
Biden
Buttigieg
Warren
In that order top down….
Pete Buttigieg HAS moved into second place in the last two recent polls though….
All the attention HAS given him a bounce…
But?
The guy DOES have minority voter problem and there ARE a TON more of them in the states after Iowa and New Hampshire…
After New Hampshire comes Nevada...
The polls out of that state are from mid January and they have ….
Biden
Sanders
Warren
Steyer
My Name Is Jack says
Not wrong necessarily.
Polls are nothing but a snapshot in time and can be quickly overtaken by events.
I would suggest that the polls you cite, some three weeks old or even from last week ,may look drastically different today.
Most people are likely just now paying much attention to the race.and they are just forming their opinion of it.Will they be effected by the results out of Iowa?
Sure some will ,and that is good news for Pete and Bernie and maybe not so good for Liz and Joe.
jamesb says
I agree Jack…
But nevertheless?
They ARE a benchmark that the pundits have conveniently forgotten….
Or simply overlooking….
The ideas that Biden was going to win Iowa was simply NOT sound judgment ….
Same with Pete acing large minority states….
I could be wrong…
But the Democratic race will actually begin AFTER this coming Tuesday ….
jamesb says
But as usual….
Yes….
Iowa… For all its irrelevance?
WILL narrow the field
CG says
When I was a kid and played video games, if I got off to a bad start, I would always just shut the game off and restart. I kept telling myself, “now, this one counts.” Often, this would take hours.
jamesb says
Joe Biden will probably drop rot 3rd in NH….
Chris Cillizza Retweeted
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NEW Monmouth New Hampshire poll:
Sanders 24%
Buttigieg 20%
Biden 17%
Warren 13%
Klobuchar 9%
jamesb says
I’m more optimistic….
His fire wall HAS to be Nevada AND South Carolina…
The media is mad crazy to write him off….
My Name Is Jack says
No they’re not.
You and Trump,always blaming the “media.”
Look it’s a legitimate story.
The guy ,who a month or so ago was considered the Overwhelming favorite ,is losing his momentum apparently.
And if he comes in third or fourth in New Hampshire, your optimism aside?
He’s in deep trouble.
He could even lose S.C.If that happens?
He’s finished.
The “media” has nothing to do with it.
jamesb says
I’m disagreeing with ya Jack…
For sure Biden has run lousy up to now….
But he’s paying for NOT playing rtf them in the beginning….
Again…
His poll numbers in the states AFTER Iowa and NH ARE Good…
But he has been written negative from the jump…
We’ll see how it plays…
My Name Is Jack says
Well then if you believe that?
Such is Bidens fault, not the media’s.
jamesb says
I DID say Joe Biden HAS made mistakes…
CG says
james apparently continues to think that polls from other states are of people who are not at all paying attention to what is going on elsewhere and will not remotely be swayed by what happens in Iowa and New Hampshire.
I’ve heard of juror sequestration but voter sequestration?
Right now, Biden is going very negative on both Sanders and Buttigieg. He has no other choice. Frankly, he has to take out Buttigieg before he even worries about Sanders. And then if he somehow manages to take out Buttigieg, then he has to worry about Bloomberg.
Joe Biden’s happiest day will be the day he suspends his candidacy, likely before this month is over. The relief on his face will be visible.
CG says
My happiest day will be this summer when in Milwaukee after a 8th ballot, Democrats throw their hands up in the air and just decide to nominate Mitt Romney, who surely could defeat Donald Trump on on one.
(one can dream, can’t they?)
jamesb says
He, he, he….
Romney!
No….
But the Bloomberg people HAVE to be smiling…
jamesb says
Joe Biden needs time….
And he DOES need to garner media attention like everyone ELSE….
CG says
time is running out and so is his money.
I wanted him to do well in Iowa. There is no doubt that in theory, he would be stronger against Trump than some others (albeit with some fundamental weaknesses.)
I just never bought into him as a strong primary candidate and I have said that from the get-go.
Had Hillary been convinced or forced to drop out in 2016, Biden would be President today. In life, windows only open very briefly at times.
jamesb says
Biden doesn’t have money problems…
He’s probably gonna come in 3rd in NH…
Better than Iowa…
He NEEDS Nevada to get him to SC….
jamesb says
I SERIOUSLY DO NOT THINK Buttigieg does good past Tuesday….
It then turns to Biden/Samders…
jamesb says
Remember people…
Biden has been counted out more time’s then the Chief’s were against 49’s and the Chiefs WON….
jamesb says
Buttigieg bounce….This would be the 4 poll in the last few days…Sanders has from up +10 to +1 on Pete in a race for 1st and 2nd….Biden seems to have slipped from 3rd to 4th…Warren and Biden seem to be in a race for 3rd
A new Boston Globe/WBZ-TV/Suffolk University poll in New Hampshire finds Bernie Sanders leading the Democratic primary with 24%, followed closely by Pete Buttigieg at 23%, Elizabeth Warren at 13% and Joe Biden at 11%.
Politicalwire…
CG says
yeah, the vaunted “5-4-3-2-1” plan. I was hoping something like that would work for Jeb Bush last time but I knew better.
CG says
Unlike the Chiefs, Biden has never won a contest outside of Delaware.
jamesb says
True THAT CG….
Zreebs says
How convenient for you to now say that that “Biden was going to win Iowa was simply NOT sound judgment”, while at the same time you were claiming that “Biden appears to be pulling away in Iowa”.
Like it or not, the race has already started. The only reason you say that “the Democratic race will actually begin AFTER this coming Tuesday” is because you suspect that Biden will lose again “this coming Tuesday”.
Biden is still in the race, but so is Mayor Pete, Bernie, Elizabeth and Mike. I think that finishing in 5th place behind Biden has essentially killed Amy’ chances. Hard to imagine she would do better in New Hampshire.