While I have been reminded that the Conservative Boris Johnson wouldn’t be rightwing enough for America…
The feeling IS that Johnson’s YUGE victory is one for nationalism and against big change3 in the UK….
This same political thing seems to be playing out across America with Donald Trump and the Republicans against Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats…
Pelosi has been trying her best to mute the progressives in Congress….
But she IS fighting a strong headwind from ‘safe’ Democrats and the American media , which likes noise, no matter if it’s from progressives or Trump…
The upcoming impeachment of Trump, which is becoming something, much less then it was in the past, has NOT changed Trump’s overall support among Americans…
In fact?
It will probably increase his support in the short run…
Quietly?
A look at the polls in some of the states(Iowa and Wisconsin) he stole support form Hillary Clinton back in 2016?
We see his support holding…
The Democratic civil war goes on in the contest for the Democratic nomination…
The two guys leading in the states up to Super Tuesday right now ARE NOT progressives…
They do NOT want to tear down the walls….
They are middle of the road males, Joe Biden and Pete Buttigieg….
(Despite the press and social media stuff?…American has ALWAYS been a centre-RIGHT country)
Is this a political direction warning like Boris Johnson’s win ?
If the U.K.’s Brexit vote foreshadowed Donald Trump’s victory in 2016, yesterday’s landslide for Boris Johnson could be a warning sign for America’s liberal Democrats in 2020.
Why it matters: It’s a reminder that mainstream voters hesitate to embrace radical change. And voters who are uneasy about an incumbent won’t necessarily choose the opposition party if they don’t like its leaders.
But beyond unpopularity and Brexit, last night’s election showed the limits of campaigning and winning on ideology. A socialist or very left-leaning message — inspired to turn out young voters and unite the working class — simply didn’t work.
It also showed what happens to a party when it becomes primarily an urban party.
“The tide has gone so far out for Labour that it is now predominantly a party of the English cities and their commuter suburbs. Seat after seat in its traditional strongholds across central and northern England and north Wales fell to the Conservatives,” Helen Lewis writes in The Atlantic.
And it shows the limits of the Twitter Left.
As NBC’s Keir Simmons noted on “Today,” this morning, the Twitter Left in Britain thought it was building momentum and winning the argument.
“One commentator today, perhaps with a lesson for America again, saying: ‘Never believe that Twitter reflects the country,’” Simmons said….
Note…
Basic…
Ya have to win the job , before you can move to effect change….
image…theHill.com
Why Bernie Sanders Is No Jeremy Corbyn
Franklin Foer: “There’s no doubt that Sanders shares some of the Corbyn view of the world. He will sometimes invoke the inglorious American history of intervening in Latin America. But Sanders is less conspiratorial and more open-minded than his British cousin. Consider how differently they have reacted to Vladimir Putin. When the Russians poisoned an ex-spy and his daughter in Salisbury last year, Corbyn expressed immediate skepticism about how quickly the British government apportioned blame for the crime. Sanders hasn’t similarly hesitated to criticize Putin. He readily condemned Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. And he has said that he would make opposition to authoritarian kleptocrats central to his foreign policy. (His speeches linking global inequality to illiberal authoritarianism contain a theory of kleptocracy that other candidates should borrow.)”
“While Sanders might have been a foreign-policy outlier in the years immediately following 9/11, his views aren’t so far from the prevailing post-Iraq consensus. He doesn’t reject humanitarian intervention on principle, even as he rails against endless wars. Sanders supported the U.S. air strikes during the Kosovo War; he was sympathetic to Barack Obama’s intervention in Libya, although he eventually came to view that policy skeptically. Where Corbyn has said that he wished NATO never existed, Sanders has merely bellyached about member states paying their dues.”
Politicalwire…
Short answer to headline question.
No.
This type of parallel comes up all the time.Like all these type things one can read into it what one wants.
Sure there are similarities to what is presently hapoening here.There are also a bundle of differences,
“American has ALWAYS been a centre-RIGHT country”
This is another good example of you making an overstatement that is flat-out wrong. Was the Declaration of Independence a “center-right” document for the eighteenth century? Of course not.
Choose your words more carefully. Saying “America has been a center-right country for a long time” is at least arguably correct. Using the word “always” makes it clearly wrong.
I have chosen my words carefully…
America IS a country that strongly holds on gun ownership….
America IS a country that tolerates losing availibity to abortion rights…
America IS a country that supports immigration crack downs, but humanly…
America IS country that wants good healthcare…
America IS a country try that is divided on a President that does illegal things , and does NOT want him removed from office for his misdeeds…
While ‘progressive left policies ‘ are embraced by it’s media?
Few of them actually become law….
This is country that impeached a President because he lied about having sex with a intern and years later turns it’s head and elects a guy who has women complaining about unwanted advances ….
While YOU may feel ur a progressive/lefty?
I submit to u that MOST Americans reside in the middle politically…
A little lefty…
Abut NOT so much so…
Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have troubles within the Democratic Party …
The last Democratic President warns his party against dancing to far with the left….
Pelosi won’t wipe’s the House vote because she wants her fellow party members inHouse to have wiggle room in states where Trump has support…
Yea….
The lefties make noise in the media ….
But the two moderate centrist Democrats are leading in the nomination polls….
This isn’t a surprise ….
Center/Right Z…..
I’m sticting to my story…
America is (a) country that wants good healthcare.
James
Is there a country that Doesn’t want good health care?
Talk about redundant!
Thank You for pointing that out Jack🙄….
Former Vice President Joe Biden on Thursday sought to draw parallels between the results of the United Kingdom’s general election and the 2020 White House race — arguing that British Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s resounding victory should warn Democrats against veering too far left in their fight to defeat President Donald Trump….
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Predicting news headlines reporting the thumping by Johnson’s Tories, Biden said: “Look what happens when the Labour Party moves so, so far to the left. It comes up with ideas that are not able to be contained within a rational basis quickly.”…
More…
Obama has issued the SAME warning to his party….
It should be noted that Boris Johnson not only supports Britain’s free healthcare system, but has promised billions in additional public spending including funds to hire more nurses and build more hospitals.
Does Joe Biden now support free healthcare along with a promise to spend billions more on nurses and hospitals?
In his victory speech, Boris Johnson also promised to work to make Britain carbon-neutral.
That plus his embrace of the NHS (a.k.a. Medicare-for-All) —whose founding in 1947 the Tories under Churchill had bitterly opposed — would place BoJo way too far to the left for the current GOP and for many Democrats, too.
Don’t sound rightwungnut to me?
At least not on theses things
Republicans eagerly embrace the British Conservative Party because of its name.
They have little understanding of what that party actually stands for.
Other than being bombastic Boris Johnson has nothing in common with Donald Trump.
A Johnson “conservative” would be labeled a damn socialist librul if he were an American politician by the Trump Republican conservatives.
Republicans are big fans of Sir Winston Churchill, but (among other things) he was an ardent multilateralist, which used (since Arthur Vandenberg) to be standard Republican and bipartisan doctrine, far removed from the isolationism spawned by World War I.
And apparently on the rise these days ?
Clarification, Johnson promised to make Britain carbon-neutral by 2050.
I believe that this is a common plan for the Europeans (the Poles excepted), who don’t want to tell far-poorer countries like India, China and Brazil to make sacrifices and adjustments that the more-affluent countries haven’t already made.