Warren peaked about the time of the October Democratic debate….
Since then she has plateaued…
She has taken a beatdown on social media and among her fellow Democratic lawmakers for the scope and YUGE cost her plan envisions…
Elizabeth Warren, who rose to the top with big liberal bets, is banking a big slice of her presidential run on full-throated support for Medicare for All.
Why it matters: Warren is taking a beating on social media after claiming middle class Americans won’t pay higher taxes to fund health care coverage fully paid for by taxpayers, according to data from NewsWhip provided exclusively to Axios. At the same time, her poll numbers nationally are slipping.
Sure it’s hurt her,however,
Anyone who supported Warrens health plan and now ,due to the costs and taxes required to implement it , has turned against it?That person is a dumbass per se.How did they think it was going to be paid for?
DespIte this setback I think claims that she has “peaked” is without foundation.She still is running well in all the polls.
I think it helps her for the nomination.
Activists like “bold ideas” and a “screw you” attitude to those who are naysayers.
It’s like “Build the Wall.” It makes people feel validated and makes them want to cheer. They will worry about the details later.
But this fight is likely to cause greater friction. Warren is now saying Biden should be running as a Republican and Biden is saying that somebody who did not become a Democrat until the mid 90s cant be trusted.
Along those lines, people on the right think and were surprised that SNL’s recent portrayal of Elizabeth Warren was harsh and made her look bad.
I think just the opposite. It made liberals like the character more.
The similarities are actually striking.
“Build the Wall!”
“Medicare for All”
“Who’s going to pay for it? Mexico!”
“Who’s going to pay for it? Billionaires!”
Pity the Billionaires!
Corey, What is your solution to the rapidly growing percentage of wealth owned by the top 1% over the past 40 years?
Do nothing – or tax cuts for the wealthy?
Is it “fair” that people who are the great grandchildren of the super-rich should never have to work and die richer than when the were born – just as their children?
make more wealthy people
How would you make more people wealthy Corey?
Give the wealthy another tax cut?
How?
Not be bored at work?
Tax cuts help stimulate the economy and create jobs.
We ought to have policies in place that allow for entrepreneurial capitalism to flourish and give all sorts of people a chance to become wealthy, just like you did.
What does any of that have to do with cutting taxes for the already wealthy?
How does that allow for “entrepreneurial capitalism.”
Trump and the Republicans promised a middle class tax cut.Insread like 70% of the benefits went to the already wealthy and huge corporations.
We should cut taxes for everyone and allow people to keep more of what they earn or to invest those earnings. There should be policies that do not bring about regulations or bureaucracies that stifle creativity or achievement.
The idea that the economy is a finite pie or a zero sum game is wrong.
You are free to disagree but I always felt the late Jack Kemp expressed it very well.
Well I disagree.
There is no need at all to cut taxes for Bill Gates, George Soros, Donald Trump,the Clinton’s,or anyone else with income in the millions.
Frankly, and I know this cuts to the core of your Republican philosophy,I Couldn’t Care Less how much taxes these very wealthy people pay.
If you wish to spend your time worrying about that?Enjoy yourself.
So, since you mention specific names, as if they are the only people to be considered, where would you draw the line on whose taxes should not be raised?
What specific income is your solution?
What”solution?”
What’s the problem?
I don’t find that taxes paid by the wealthy is a “problem” requiring a “solution.”
Do you think it is a”problem?”
ok, so in your view, who does not make enough money to have their taxes raised?
Please give a number for yearly salary.
I think economic inequality is a problem and lack of opportunity is a problem. I think democratic capitalism is the solution.
Uh we were talking about tax “cuts.”
Now you want to start a discussion about “raising” taxes.”
I don’t care about “raising taxes” necessarily.I just find no reason to “cut” taxes for the wealthy.
So your position is leave taxes as they are for everyone including the rich people you mention? No cuts, no raises?
Do not raise taxes on them even to pay for health care?
What does your belief about democratic capitalism have to do with cutting taxes for the wealthy?
Oh anyone can play this “game.
Exactly how much should the wealthy taxes be cut?
You do seem to be very concerned about how much taxes they pay.
How is it a “game?”
If it is one, I didn’t start it. Zreebs and yourself started asking me questions and I have been doing my best to answer them.
I think that should mean I can ask questions in return though.
I would defer to like-minded economists as to specific numbers but for old time’s sake, I will offer 15% across the board cuts for *everyone* who pays taxes.
No I don,t think the economy is a finite pie or a zero sum game. Part of the reason that economies that have a more fair distribution of wealth perform better is because in an economy with a reliable safety net, more people are able to contribute to society.
Yes, we should have a safety net, or more appropriately a “safety trampoline.”
But we should also increase opportunity (access to capital, educational attainment, safer neighborhoods, etc, etc) in order to allow humans to achieve full potential and create wealth for themselves.
No disagreement about safer neighborhoods, educational access or access to capital. You sound rather liberal!
No, I sound rather mainstream, which is what I am. I sound like Jack Kemp, who was one of my earliest political influences.
We have big disagreements but it would be nice if we could both recognize that the other person is not “evil” and has nothing but good intentions for the people of America and the world.
And you already know I am not a “Trump Republican.”
I am a Kemp Republican (plus great admiration for many others in the party’s history) as you have known since 2004.
Borrowing money can stimulate the economy just as borrowing money can enable an individual to buy a car and give him a sense that he is no better off than before. But no economist that I know believes that it is wise for the deficit to continue to comprise a larger percent of GDP.
Why is there less social mobility today – even though tax rates are relatively low?
“You see, democratic capitalism is not just the hope of wealth, but it’s the hope of justice. When we look into the face of poverty, we see the pain, the despair and need of human beings. But above all, in every face of every child, we must see the image of God.
You see, the Creator of All has planted the seed of creativity in every single one of us, the desire within every child of God to work and build and improve our lot in life, and that of our families and those we love. And in our work, and in the act of creating that is part of all labor, we discover that part within ourselves that is divine. I believe the ultimate imperative for growth and opportunity is to advance human dignity.
Dr. Martin Luther King believed that we must see a sleeping hero in every soul. I believe America must establish policies that summon those heroes and call forth their boundless potential and that of the human spirit. But our fullest potential will never be achieved by following leaders who call us to timid tasks, diminished dreams and some era of limits.
You see, every generation faces a choice: hope or despair — to plan for scarcity or to embrace the possibilities. Societies throughout history believed they had reached the frontiers of human accomplishment. But in every age, those who trusted that divine spark of imagination discovered that vastly greater horizons still lay ahead.
You see, Americans do not accept limits. We transcended those limits. We do not settle for things as they are. We are intent on succeeding.”
Jack F. Kemp
The wealth distribution is now more skewed than when Kemp was alive. AT a minimum, It is getting much harder to talk about justice and capitalism in the same paragraph these days.
Did you feel differently when he was politically prominent?
No – because the wealth distribution was even less skewed in the 70s than in the 80s. And in 10 years – it will be even more more skewed than it is today – even if Biden is elected.
This issue is especially important to me now precisely because the problem has been getting much worse.
And if you think that robots and outsourcing -which are encouraged by capitalism -will “help”, then you are more naive than I thought.
So you felt as you have always felt and we jut have a fundamental disagreement about capitalism, opportunity, and human potential. That’s fine.
So, you want to stop the robots that might be around in 20 years but the coal miners of today can go screw themselves?
Seems a bit inconsistent.
“Do Nothing or tax cuts for the wealthy.”
Zreebs has perhaps inadvertently described the entire to tier Republican economic program.