…from Politico….
It was just before 4 p.m. in the nation’s capital when the Washington Postpublished an “October surprise” for the ages.
Fahrenthold’s story told of an exclusively obtained audio recording of Trump, 11 years earlier and newly married, boasting of his sexual exploits to television host Billy Bush. The two were riding together on a bus, preparing to shoot a segment for the NBC show Access Hollywood, when Trump recalled how he’d once tried to sleep with Bush’s co-host, Nancy O’Dell.
“I moved on her and I failed. I’ll admit it. I did try and fuck her. She was married. And I moved on her very heavily,” Trump said on the tape. “In fact, I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said, ‘I’ll show you where they have some nice furniture.’ I took her out furniture—I moved on her like a bitch. But I couldn’t get there. And she was married.”
Then, when the two men spotted a young woman awaiting them outside the bus—actress Arianne Zucker—Trump told Bush, “I’ve got to use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.”
Trump added, “And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”
The fallout was apocalyptic.
House Speaker Paul Ryan had been scheduled to make his first joint appearance with Trump the next morning at Fall Fest, the annual beer-and-bratwurst political rally in his district. Preparing to speak at a fundraiser for a congressman in Cleveland, Ryan was pulled aside by his longtime aide, Kevin Seifert, who showed him the story. Ryan, the Boy Scout, burst into a fit of cursing just outside a roomful of wealthy donors.
He phoned Priebus immediately. “He cannot come here,” Ryan said. “You need to tell him.”
Priebus relayed this to Trump, who promptly shot the messenger. “Oh no,” the Republican nominee replied, “I’m coming.”
The party chairman called Ryan back with Trump’s reaction. “You’re gonna have to publicly disinvite him, Paul.”
“Fine, then he’s disinvited. He ain’t coming,” the speaker said, raising his voice to Priebus for the first time in their decades-long relationship. “This isn’t something I’m intimidated by.”…
A short while later, Ryan’s office blasted out a news release saying he was “sickened” by Trump’s remarks and announcing the presidential candidate’s banishment from the Wisconsin event. Priebus understood but was nonetheless distraught. He had started Fall Fest years ago as the Wisconsin GOP chairman. Saturday’s event was supposed to be a homecoming for him and a harmonious breakthrough for the party. All of them—Priebus, Trump, Ryan—were meant to take the stage together, at long last projecting a united front entering the final weeks of the campaign.
Up until that point, despite Trump’s self-destructive antics, Priebus believed his party had a chance. Clinton was so deeply flawed, and the Democratic base had been made so complacent by the combination of her candidacy and eight years in power, that Priebus clung to the belief that Trump somehow, in some way, might just win the White House.
Everything changed when he heard the Access Hollywood tape.
image…businessinsider
Thanks Scott….
The Republican Party folded to Trump and his supporters when the Party leadership had the opportunity to replace him on the ticket at the time. They folded and have been folding everyday since, no exceptions.
The damage the Trump Administration is doing to the Nation is incalculable and will take years to repair. The Republican Party is complicit in this damage.
I don’t have much time, work to do.
But my stalker’s obsession with me was on full display when I read through the comments yesterday. Not sure how our friend gets real work done.
But, let me address a few of the more humorous comments before I go.
First, the household and its checkbook doesn’t have a favorite candidate. My favorite candidate will be the Democratic nominee for President. No matter who it is, because voting for the Democrat is the only way we can remove Trump from office. A vote for anyone else is a vote for Trump.
Second, Harry Reid, God bless him, would never have held a Supreme Court nomination like McConnell did for over a year. Now, I know our friend Corey has a hard on for Harry since he thinks Harry kept Saint Mitt from getting his white ass into the White House. But Harry followed regular order when in charge of the Senate, something Mitch knows nothing about. Next to Trump, Mitch McConnell is doing more damage to our government than any other living person. If you’re defending Mitch, you’re defending Trump, and cannot claim that you are anything but a Trump apologist.
Now lots more was written yesterday that I found amusing and simply pathological, but I don’t have the time, and frankly the interest to address. But the fact that we continue to read about events, both political and personal, that took place 15, 20, and even 50 years ago is actually troubling from a mental health perspective.
I urge him, after 40 years on this planet, to get a life that doesn’t involve spending the entire day defending the indefensible. Maybe going out on a date might help.
i agree holding Democratic candidates to bear on stuff from back in the day is self defeating….
It is quite amazibg how quickly Republicans folded to support Trump the pussy grabber.
They hitched their boat to him and now deserve to sink when be sinks.
David Jolly, Mark Sanford and Justin Amash are 3 principled conservative “classic” Republicans who see this.
The rest are in denial.
Weld….
Ryan NOW that he quit …
oh and CG?
Tillerson
Kelly
Who else?
No, CG “hopes” all these Trump enabling Republicans win because otherwise he would have to support a Democrat who is pro choice or supports the Iran Deal ir whatever other issue of the day he comes up with to hide the fact that we all know. He is a Republican who will vote for and support the Trump Republican party.
His personal disapproval of Trump and 2 dollars gets you a cup of coffee.
There is no difference at all between the cited names Mark Sanford and Justin Amash and myself.
I believe David Jolly became a Democrat.
In fact, I resigned my position as an official in my local Republican organization (due to Trump) over three years before Amash left the House GOP conference and two years before Sanford lost a primary.
and months before Jolly lost his general election as the official GOP nominee.
I wish Jolly would have won that race. Scott does not. It’s only about partisanship with him, which why he can justify supporting Charlie Crist over Jolly, the man he hated as a Republican when Crist was a Republican and advocating Sarah Palin for national office, and loves as a Democrat simply because he says he is now a Democrat.
Crust saw the light and was rewarded…
Won’t be so easy for the diehards still enabling Trump…
Saw the light?
More like he saw he was about to lose a Republican primary race.
So, as a consolation prize, years later, he winds up a back bencher in the lower chamber. I’m sure the cocktail parties are nice for him though.
Good move….
But some do not believe where ur heart is🙄
That’s because they are torn apart inside due to what they know is a thinly veiled hypocrisy.
So, they lash out. Sometimes, with violent rhetoric and imagery.
Paul Ryan has no backbone and has backtracked on all his previous criticism of Trump.
Weasel if there ever was one.
Trying to have things both ways….
We ARE gonna see a LOT of this when Trump leaves….
One cannot criticize Ryan for trying to work with Trump while giving Biden a pass for working with segregationists.
Either one gets the concept of a single standard or they do not.
Trump is inept….
The segregationist were at least sane.
True THAT Scott….
What is “sane” about racial segregation?
I know that in 1976, Jimmy Carter suggested it was a reasonable idea, something Nixon would never have said., but nobody ever remembers Carter’s “Southern Strategy.”
The specific people that Biden talked about how he worked so well with said a hell of a lot worse back in the day than Trump would ever say.
They said white people basically had the right to kill a “n-word.”
Sane?
Glad to see you back in full “tribalist”mode today defending Dick Nixon and Trump.
Mercy, mercy me!
Is this what’s know as “lashing out?”
I’m in the CG Principled Conservative Tribe.
Let me know if you know of anyone who could fit this lofty standard.
I haven’t defended Trump at all.
I just am pointing out the fact that he never said that a white man has the right to a “dead n word” as one of the guys Biden was chummy with said.
You ever heard of the Republican/Southern Democrat alliance of the 50s,60s and 70s ?
Maybe you should study up on it.
Of course ,you don’t give a damn that Biden worked with segregationists.
Hell they all did, Democrats and Republicans.
Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon all did.
I’ve already pointed that out.
Trump having some of those Right Wing kooks over to the White House to schmooz with.
They’ve said stuff as bad as those old segregationists did.
I sure there’s going to be a lot of Republican “outrage” over that gathering of nutjobs.
Hahaha!
Sure, and it’s no different than Members of Congress, in either party, deciding they have to work with the Trump Administration.
It’s either right in both regards or wrong on both regards. Strong cases can be made for either approach, but there has to only be one standard.
Even Zreebs saw thru the hypocrisy.
Name a specific example, and cite it, of a Member of Congress in the time post the two guys Biden cited, said something like , “right to a dead n word.”
No, Trump associates himself with some lousy people, but nobody has said *that*, at least not publicly.
Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon also all used the bully pulpit and the moral authority of their office to speak out and act out against segregation.
The one President who gave a wink and a nod to segregation (even if that’s all it was) was Jimmy Carter in 1976.
I have no problem with Republicans working with a Republican President.
You’ve changed your tune on that though.
Right after Trumps election you claimed he was really aDemocrat.Everyone here remembers the many afternoons you spent here telling us how it was just matter of time before his true Democratic colors came out.
Instead ,Trump has become the most “Republican “ of Republican Presidents and on issues where Republicans might have disagreed with him ,based on their past stated beliefs ,it’s they who have changed colors,not him.
I oppose Trump and his Republican acolytes and I will criticize them because I do.
What’s odd about that?
However, for one who just yesterday was bragging about never voting for anyone who supported Trump?This whole line of yours today seems
“Odd.”
However we have learned that you are nothing but a contrarian anymore.
Whatever we say here?You will always take the opposite side.
Let the fun and games continue!
Yeah that’s why Carter took around 90% of the Black vote.
He as a real apologist for segregation.
They just need a tribalist Republican from Illinois in 2019 to set them straight.
As for Nixon and his well known “southern strategy.”Who knew ,but you apparently ,that he was snickering all those segregationists and it was all about helping the Blacks.
Have you eve thought writing a book about all this stuff?
Carter took 83% in 1976 if you want to be technical.
Nixon never said as Carter did in 1976 that it was understandable for people to want to stay with their own.
For all I know you agreed with Carter on it at the time.
One simply cannot say that Nixon was elected due to racism and Carter was not, when Carter obviously won over a ton of Nixon voters, just as Trump won over many Obama voters.
I think you are massively exaggerating in stating that I said Trump was going to govern as a Democrat. However, in many ways, he has. The Republican Party, to my disappointment, has for the most part been willing to shrug it off.
For the betterment of the country, anyone, Democrat, or Republican, should work with the Administration as best they can.
I also have the most respect for those who will call out the moral failings of it.
Remember, I support impeachment and you do not. Your red-hat wearing friends at the lodge might give you a hard time.
I will absolutely maintain that throughout his public life from the 1940s thru the end of his Presidency, and for whatever private and public faults he had, Richard Nixon absolutely wanted to improve the lot of black Americans and wanted greater racial unity.
It is a consistent in all his public remarks throughout those decades.
Oh here we go with the “lashing out”by a tribalist Republican.
For all I know this whole anti Trump yours is an act.
There wooooo?I got you.
What rubbish!
It just pisses the Hell out of you ,and most Republicans for that matter ,that Black people overwhelmingly see through your veneer and year in and year out vote against you “principled conservatives.”
They just don’t know what’s good for them,right”
Let me see…
Now you are attacking fellow Republicans who not only will vote for Trump ,but will vote for Republican Senators and Congresspeople whom you want to see elected?
Don’t you ever get tired of twisting yourself into these crazy knots of yours?
Yes I have a lot of Republican friends we agree to disagree politically.We are still friends.
You ought to try it some time.
Well jack, nobody should vote for Trump, but in terms of the broader philosophical “debate” we have had for years previous to that, I certainly do not believe that voting en masse for Democrats by African-Americans has done much to help them in American life. I think just the opposite has occurred and that it would be far better in theory if the black vote was actually competed for and not either dismissed out of hand or taken for granted.
Of course, it has to once again be noted that just a few months ago you decided it was best to vote for white Trump apologists over black Democrats. You are an odd messenger for this.
Yeah that Nixon’s n was real jewel in racial matters.
History so records.
You “maintain”all sorts of things.
Too bad Dick got caught though, ain’t it?
Yeah but you never will vote for anyone who supported Trump,right?
No I won’t vote for a nut…
You on the other hand voted for Alan Keyes.
Most Black people in Illinois didn’t.
Watergate had nothing to do with race. Nixon had his faults and his personal demons and insecurities to be sure.
But as a matter of public policy, for his time, he was quite progressive on race matters. Certainly far, far, far more than the guys that Biden regrets he can no longer work with.
I didn’t say never. I just said I hadn’t, and I haven’t. That’s a fact.
Hopefully, I will never have to. I want massive reform in the GOP. If I found myself in Kentucky though, I would have to agree that Mitch McConnell would do a better job for the people than his opponent, just like you decided that the South Carolina Trumplicans were better than the Democrats a few months ago.
Yes, and a rapist has a “moral failing” that should be understood, as long as they might be a Democrat.
or become President?
Yes, a Democrat President.
Anyone in the way is merely collateral damage.
Trump “survived” the tape business because the media way overestimated the likely Republican response.
They assumed,wrongly, that the religious Right, prime backers of Trump ,would call for him to withdraw and that the Republican Estblishment would then feel free to jump in too.
Didn’t happen.
It was sort of a fitting end to the old conservative” values” routine.I mean it was always a pile of BS.By endorsing the old reprobate Trump ,that crowd implicitly said,”yeah it’s a pile of hokie ,time to cut it loose.”
The new standard is as long as you talk the talk?The walk don’t matter.
on point Jack!
The main reason Trump “survived” the Access Hollywood tapes is that the people closest to the candidate, and probably the candidate himself, did not expect to win the election and perhaps did not even want to win the election (which differentiated them from Ryan, Priebus, et. al), so they had nothing to lose. If he lost the election, he could call himself a martyr and open his own cable news outlet.
He had no business to win, but lo and behold he did. One reason is because the American people were trained decades earlier that “character doesn’t matter” in prominent people and also because Hillary Clinton was such a horrible candidate, both in terms of her ability to connect personally, major qualms about her own ethics (i.e, “they’re all the same anyway”) and the unpopular policy positions she was burdened with.
Good Republican apologia.
It ain’t the Republicans.
Them damn Demcrats made em do it!
High?nah,
Low comedy.
You can be friends with whom you like. Maybe at your age it matters less, and that’s a good thing, but it’s harder for me to just smile and nod at Trump lovers.
The sense I get though is that you are and have always been far harsher on anything “conservative” or “Republican” on here, where you simply have a screen name than you are in “real life. So, it feels a bit phony.
You are a phony.
Gee that felt goood….
You’re really a scream this afternoon ,lashing out here and there ,living fifty years ago in some vain effort to do what?Im not exactly sure.
You never have understood that I don’t give a damn what you say or think about me.
Don’t you get it?
This is all just a bunch of guys shooting the shit fellow.
Get a life.
Oh you give plenty of damns, which is why you specifically asked me to start posting here again when I was perfectly happy when the site was dead.
I am glad you have a new lease on life though, genuinely. On the internet though, you are still the same ol’; guy you always have been, professional wrestling bravado and all.
As for “Trump lovers” whom you claim to disdain?
When Trump exits the scene you are going to be right back in the bosom of the Republican Party (which you’ve really never left ,your increasingly shrill protestations notwithstanding)voting and supporting all sorts of people who voted for and supported Donald Trump.
The fact that you think that anyone here “buys”this act of yours says much about either your naïveté or your being delusional.
Let me get this straight …you came back here merely because I came back?
Am I reading that correctly?
I really had no idea I had that type of effect on you.
A guy you totally disagree with, a Democrat , a might have been segregationist,an old guy who hangs out with Trump people?
This guy “invites” you back to a site that you were glad was dead and you obediently answer such a Request?
I’m all choked up!
Ah,,, weird…much?
Well, yeah, if not for your emotional return and specific shout out, none of us would be posting here at this point. It died out again when you went on your cruise. Revel in your influence if you must.
Still though, now that the site is back, some people seem to prefer an echo chamber. I would wish they would have the perspective that it’s more interesting without one and no matter how hard anyone tries to force the jacket on me, I am not a “Trump Republican” nor will I became a left-winger.
The site has and WILL continue comments or not….
Yes….
The regulars do seem to wait for him to start the conversation…
And YES I’d LOVE to have more people commenting….
I don’t know if getting new people to start here is realistic or not, but people who might be silently reading are probably unlikely to do so when they see a Majority Party herd (albeit just 3 or 4 people really) running wild without any sort of cautioning. You basically just tell them you agree with them and give them virtual high-fives.
Of course, I can take it.
I NEVER had a problem with counter views here as long as people are civil….
And yea…
People tend to want be a places that everyone can agree…
THAT is NOT challenging
There’s never been anything “civil” about Keith and Scott seems to have crossed into a permanent ugly space as well.
So, that’s going to generate pushback.
Zreebs comes and goes and jack I can take in stride. DSD is fine.
We all have a favorites …
and we ALL switch sides on issues as they come up….
Also, for all his bravado, jack should just admit that recently, he is a better Republican than I am.
He votes for them, hangs out with them, and unlike me opposes impeachment, and didn’t even watch the Dem debates.
It’s hard for me to be this “woke.”
Yeah I admit it!
I’m a Republican because I voted for a Republican for the lofty position of State Supt.of Education and I have Republican friends.
If that doesn’t prove it…
Nothing will!
Now,as to CG, apparently he doesn’t “hang out” with Republicans and he detests Democrats.
Alas poor chap…
“Loneliness is the cloak you wear
A deep shade of blue is always there…”
From “The Sun Ain’t Gonna Shine Anymore “ The Walker Brothers(1967)
Yeah but they might come to hear you support Most of Trumps programs, almost all his appointments and cheering on the Republicans in Congress…
Then to find out(depending on the day of the week that 1.)You’re Not a Republican 2.) you’re not “much” of a Republican 3.) you’re “sort of” a Republican 4.) You “wish” you could be aRepublican etc etc.
It would make for great fun!
We could even start a betting pool on which you would be on epany given day.
But for some inexplicable reason, as we (3 or 4 of us) run “wild”
You come here daily to “herd “us in.
in fact people with opposing views ATE free to join the discourse here and have in the past CG….
But the likes of NYCMAike, SE. Daniel G, and others have disappeared ….
You proudly are the counter….
So it is…..
It’s lonely at the top my boy.
That I had to return for you to answer the “call of the Wild” to return to your everlasting battle against Democrats, Socialists Libruls and other nefarious types….
Let me go and “revel” some more!!!
Even when Trump is gone, I am not going to any meeting or rally that might have his campaign materials or any tribute to him up.
You only care about this because it’s the internet. Clearly, you have some very close friends who love Trump. Keith said a few months ago that waiters should spit in their soup. I wonder if he actually believes that.
Can we get a “How Ted Kennedy survived Chappaquiddick” post?
Move AHEAD CG…..
Life goes on….
It didn’t go on for someone.
Yet Orrin Hatch and Dan Quayle not only worked with Ted Kennedy– they considered him a friend.
“These guys have all convinced themselves that to be successful and keep their jobs, they need to stand by Trump. But Trump won’t stand with them as soon as he doesn’t need them. He’s not loyal. They’re very loyal to Trump, but the second he thinks it’s to his advantage to throw someone under the bus, he’ll be happy to do it.”
— Rep. Justin Amash (I-MI), quoted by the Washington Post, on how GOP lawmakers embraced President Trump….
CG apparently doesn’t understand the concept of being friends with people with differing political views.
I enjoy politics,discussing it,having some fun with it.
It’s not my life though and I can have a good time sitting around sipping a few cool ones and talking about sports, things happening locally ,kids and family stuff etc.
Oddly he sounds like a”librul elitist”mocking those fellows at my Elk Lodge.Trump has driven him over the edge!
I run this place for the same reasons Jack….
As I have said often in the past….
It’s makes me better…
And a challenge in ur thinking is learning ….
Well that got quite interesting while I was busy at work.
Not sure what I’ve done to our Tribalist Republican to earn “permanently ugly” status
Also not sure I care