Republicans don’t need to vote to convict Trump in the Senate after the incoming Democratic led House would impeach him….
Republicans need to ‘do the Right Thing’ and get Donald Trump to pack his bags and quit his day job….One he NEVER should have been able to maneuver to get after THREE MILLION or so people voted for someone else to be President…..
Congress IS the issue here…
We ALL know Donald J. Trump is unfit to continue to hold the office of President of the United States….
This is ridiculous. The Founding Fathers were not unaware of the possibility that a demagogue or a knave might win the presidency. That’s why they checked the executive with an independent Congress and built in powers of impeachment. That Republicans in this Congress have proven so subservient to — or scared of — Trump that they have let the fate of the country hinge on whether his staff can adequately distract and calm him is a subversion of the constitutional order and an abdication of responsibility.
As David Frum writes:
Trump is what he is. And what he is is a man who shouldn’t be president. The question is whether our political system is capable of responding to that kind of mistake, or threat, in any serious way.
So far, the answer is no…..
Note….
We KNOW that as hard as Robert Mueller might want to charge Donald Trump with a crime….Even several?
Congress (And the current Supreme Court) won’t convict a sitting President for the sake of preserving the ‘Presidency’….
image…Axios.Com
jamesb says
Ezra Klein
@ezraklein
“The root cause of this crisis is that the Republican Party has chosen to back an unfit and dangerous president for crass political reasons. They’re getting the policies they want, including a massive tax cut bill.”
twitter…..
jamesb says
Yup DSD….
I ‘don’t get it’…..
Seems neither does his staff people….
My Name Is Jack says
Not that simple.
They could get the policies they want with Pence ,maybe even more.
The reason Republicans in Congress don’t give Trump the heave ho is they fear the reactions of Republican voters who still overwhelmingly support him.
Would they simply fall in line behind a President Pence?Would they take their wrath out on those who removed Trump?Would they simply slink away,disgusted with politics, and not vote ,thus assuring Republican defeats?
Lots of questions.No sure answers.Accordingly,the safest course for them presently is to do nothing and let matters run their course,
Keith2018 says
But they simply aren’t just waiting Jack, they vote with the “secret Democrat” down the line, and if they lose Congress they will come back in a lame duck session to try to dismantle/cut back on Social Security and Medicare. Paulie has to have his pound of flesh.
CG says
Nothing in this 2:03 post has anything to do with Trump.
jamesb says
New line in the media…..
Who IS in charge?
Choice between crazy assed Trump…
Or?
People around Trump who feel duty bound to the Country to co-op the man in charge?
This NOT about the ‘Deep State’…
This is increasing becoming about REMOVING someone UNFIT to hold the office of the President….
jamesb says
The argument about the person YELLING ‘shit is fucked up’ is wrong and ridiculous….
The adults in the White House NEED TO STAY and work HARDER!
Someone needs to keep an eye on Trump who could become cornered and dangerous…
CG says
So, if using the argument you are using, to side with the Executive Branch personnel who may be doing so, the same would also have to extend to do those in Congress, who are pretending to be on Trump’s side, just to stay in his graces and prevent what would otherwise be damaging results.
All fascinating from a pure philosophical/ethical perspective.
jamesb says
Yea….
There is a guy that is clueless in charge….
And NOBODY has the balls to do a damn thing?
Scary!
CG says
You are contradicting yourself.
Either they go all out to get him out or they grit their teeth and try to prevent him from doing worse than would be done if they were not in the room.
We know now (officially) that senior Administration officials feel that way and I think it’s more than safe to assume a lot of Congressional Republicans do as well.
I’m not saying they are right in their decision, but we can at least understand why they decided to do as they are.
jamesb says
Politics IS contradictions
Keith says
It has everything to do with Trump, he is the head of the Republican Party, and other than a few, and I do mean a few, Members of the Republican caucus who have been critical of Trump — the rest have fallen into line and are standing with their President.
Now, Ben Shapiro is out today blaming Obama for the giving us Trump. He said it was because people hated Obama’s lectures. It shows how simply desperate the right is to absolve itself of Trump, even when they put their legs in the air and he is still fucking them. Because they know, among other things, that Trump will give them what they want.
And if the Congress flips the Republicans will rush to do additional damage to our social safety net — and will count on Trump to sign anything they send him.
But, I learned today that it’s Obama’s fault that Mitt Romney didn’t become President and, if he had, we would have never had Trump. That bastard Obama.
So, we have gone full circle, and it’s the black boy’s fault once again. Some of his voters are even to fault for switching from him to Trump (although I am still waiting to meet one of those voters) and, of course, we were told here for months that Hillary was to blame for Trump’s election because she ran such a terrible campaign. Ignoring the fact that the GOP nominated the Mango Mussolini and then moved heaven and earth to get him elected.
Without rehashing the election I think the main reason Hillary lost was that the base didn’t turn out in sufficient numbers. And, there are lots of reasons for that, and many of them have Putin’s fingerprints on them.
jamesb says
I answered Ben Shapiro on twitter pointing out what Obama mentioned yesterday in his speech….
The guy is Revisionist history….
scott says
Probably a good assessment.
The cake is sonewhat baked now. Not a whole lot these Republican nominees can do now except try to ride the storm out.
I do expect a few in tougher districts will try to distance themselves from Trump.risking a tweet from the egomaniac. But most know the Republicam voters in 2018 find crossing The Donald to be the one unforgivable sin.
scott says
Republicans in Congress mat be too gutless to send Trump packing…but voters may send plenty of GOP Congress members packing.
Ann Wagner–in Missouri 2nd district–a district almost identical in makeup to OH 12 which went to a virtual tie last month–is in a tie with her Democratic opponent Cort Van Ostrom according to a new poll
https://m.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2018/09/06/cort-van-ostran-is-tied-with-ann-wagner-right-now-in-missouris-2nd-district
Democratic Socialist Dave says
One step over the line, sweet Jesus; one step over the line …
But the Trumpeter-in-Chief is a man of no little steps; some day he’s far more likely to vault over that line, dragging with him a slew of Republican legislators over the cliff and into the Void.
My Name Is Jack says
I don’t regard Trumps White House staff, Cabinet and certainly not the Republicans in Congress as “heroes.”
The “heroic” thing to do is denounce him and oppose everything he does.
Having said that,I fully expect that in the post Trump era we will be subjected to a barrage of tell alls and memoirs from some of those I mentioned above casting themselves a selfless heroes for their “roles” in preserving the country through this era.
I won’t be reading any of them .
jamesb says
In fact they seem to be denouncing Trump off the record to reporters and Woodward and Wolf…..
All of this stuff isn’t surprise revelations…..
And yes…
They ARE just standing around holding their breaths…..
bdog says
That was a funny Jack…the post Trump Era and the books that will be written…