Hmmmmm?
In three politically important Midwest states — including two that were key in deciding the 2016 election — President Donald Trump’s job approval rating is below 40 percent, and Democrats hold a sizable lead for the upcoming congressional midterms, according to a trio of new NBC News/Marist polls.
In Michigan, which Trump won by nearly 11,000 votes, 36 percent of registered voters approve of the president’s job, while 54 percent disapprove.
In Wisconsin, which he won by about 23,000 votes, another 36 percent give Trump a thumbs up, with 52 percent giving him a thumbs down.
And in Minnesota, which Trump narrowly lost by 1.5 percentage points, his rating stands at 38 percent approve, 51 percent disapprove….
scott says
On MSNBC this morning one of the guests (it was early so I was hazy) said the voters she calls “Trump triers” have soured on him big time. These are the voters that were cool to both candidates but figured what the hell we’ll take a chance with Trump.
Trump only won those states by winning these voters and he has done nothing to keep them, and has done even less to win over those who didn’t vote for him.
Of course every day I hear Republican base voters say that because Trump keeps pissing off the hated “libruls” he’ll get another term.
He’ll keep them of course, but that won’t win him another term.
CG says
The main question would be then what have Democrats done or what will they do to win over those sort of voters.. are they still going to think they have to choose between two bad options?
It is also true that those who were lukewarm in support of Trump in 2016 have been intensified in their support of him.
scott says
Are you talking Republicans who “reluctantly” supported Trump?
Yeah that may be true–but they were going to support him anyway because he’s the Republican President.
Among others more and more see him as unfit for a second term. In fact his “deserves reelection” numbers are several points lower than his approval. There’s a fatigue about him among independent voters even if they approve of how the economy is doing. Republicans will support him regardless of course. But there are fewer of them than there were even when he took office.
CG says
I don’t disagree with that, but there are a lot more people (unwisely) who are genuinely pro-Trump these days than simply being anti-Hillary.
It all gets down to intensity and whatever ramifications may exist from primary battles among Democrats… and of course any third party/Independent efforts in the general election.
jamesb says
I don’t see Trump holding office for a second term,…
I agree
People just won’t accept the chaos
Heck, he might not make it in office up to Jan. 20, 2020…..
jamesb says
Good point by that person Scott
Meaning that the Trump ‘base’ could be oversold?
There have been pieces on swing state voters being soft on Trump and Republicans
All this COULD be a preview of a Democratic
Wave as Obsms voters come back to democrats
CG says
There has been polling data to suggest that the Democrat brand has suffered since the 2016 election and continues to do so.
That does not mean Democrats cannot win races in the midterm, in areas that are friendly to them, but the party has an image problem.
jamesb says
Maybe
But Democrats have raised more money and have a enthusiasm lead over Republicans
So their brand ain’t doing THAT bad….
CG says
Democrats are supposed to do well in the midterms.
The Trump fans are talking about the massive record setting amounts of money his PAC is raising and how is he is going to have so much more money and an incredibly advanced infrastructure from what he had in 2016. Incumbency matters.
CG says
I will say of course that money does not matter when a candidate is polarizing. Someone could theoretically outspend an opponent 200-1, but if the person with all the money is disliked, they are going to have problems.
jamesb says
Money certainly helps a LOT
But yea
Sometimes the person with less money does get the win
jamesb says
Yea Trump probably settles on the amount of money he’ll get from Putin during their face to face in Helsinki
My Name Is Jack says
I really don’t understand all the attention on the Georgia Governors race.
There are even some who are calling it a tossup.
I don’t see it.
Yeah there are some demographic changes and Democrats have beem running a little better statewide of late,but there hasn’t been a Democratic victory in a Georgia Governors race in twenty years.
I just don’t see that a Black female ( or any Democrat for that matter) winning in a still very red state like Georgia,
CG says
Kemp will probably win the GA Governor race for the Republicans, but it also probably going to be about 8-10 points closer than it would have otherwise been.
If the Dem nominee were a moderate, I think it might be a Tossup race.
My Name Is Jack says
,Deals victory margin in 2014 was eight points.
She will probably do about that good,maybe a little better.
Couldn’t have gotten much more “moderate” than Roy Barnes and in 2010 he lost by ten points
scott says
Ah CG’s “advice” to Democrats. Remember how he thought the Democrats should have nominated an African American minister in the Alabama Senate race.
CG says
Yes, that candidate would have won more easily.
Zreebs says
So CG thinks that Democrats should be making decisions based on the race of the candidate. Democrats often nominate black candidates in Alabama. Should they be doing so even more frequently than is currently the case? Should a political party should generally not nominate a person of a race that only makes up a small percentage of the voters? I don’t recall you previously advocating for affirmative action type programs. What other affirmative action type programs do you support?
CG says
My thinking was that Jones was pretty dull and also very liberal on issues like abortion, whereas a black minister would naturally be more charismatic and could also generate a larger turnout among black voters. Most people here felt Jones could not win and I even suspected were rooting for Moore, in order to tarnish all Republicans.
As it is though, Jones won, because enough Republicans did the write thing and either voted for him or wrote someone in. He stands very little chance of being reelected though.
Speaking as a long-time Republican, I have long been in favor of diverse candidate recruitment, etc, and have certainly wanted more black Republicans to run for and win office.
Keith2018 says
I remember that “advice” well Scott. I laughed for days and wrote another check to Doug Jones.
Keith2018 says
On record? I don’t remember it exactly that way given Jones’ position on the issues, but if you want to take credit for my last contribution to the Senator go right ahead. You can throw in my husband’s too, and he maxed out to the campaign.
The problem with spending entire days commenting here while trying to drive a right wing ideology through a self righteous and ridiculous moral code is that it leads to this type of foolish commentary.
The idea that the Democrats of Alabama would have nominated an unknown pro-life black minister over a qualified former prosecutor with an established record is laughable.
Of course we were all skeptical that any Democrat could win in Alabama, but in the end Jones turned out to be the perfect candidate in the perfect storm.
Jones’ victory has led to the fact that Democrats are competing in places they haven’t in years and may just replicate his success in unimaginable ways this November.
If it happens, I for one think Corey should take credit for those wins too!
CG says
Since I was on the record as very much wanting Doug Jones to defeat Roy Moore, even when some Democrats here were saying it would never happen, I am quite happy to hear that I motivated Keith to part with some of his money to go toward a cause I supported.