I have said this over and over….
Washington lawmakers are more afarid of Donald Trump getting put on trial for his misdeeds than letting him make a fool of himself in office…
I guess the Russians where betting on this….
So far it’s worked for them with Trump….
The system of seperate political power the countries founding politcal guys put in place IS working …..
Thank Goodness….
Former Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid cautioned Democrats to ratchet down talk of impeaching President Donald Trump ahead of November’s midterm elections, warning such rhetoric could further divide a politically splintered nation.
“I’ve been through an impeachment, and they’re not pleasant,” the Nevada Democrat told MSNBC in his first network interview since leaving Congress in 2016. “And I think the less we talk about impeachment, the better off we are as a country.”…
Note..
Democratic House and Senate leaders Pelosi and Schumer have also downplayed any suggestion of impeachment action against Trump currently….If, as expected Pelos become’s Speaker of the House in a majority Democratic US House?
She will be under HUGE pressure to in fact launch impeachment hearingt against Trump…..She and others are well aware the Bill Clinton impeachment actually helped him politically to go on to a second term….
Democratic Socialist Dave says
Who knows what we’ll know by next September, or November, or January ?
The Special Counsel may very well have something concrete to offer by then, and I agree that it’s wholly premature to start talking about impeachment before there’s more evidence that will sway a consensus of voters.
However, should the Democrats win a majority in the House, I think it would be appropriate to revive some of the congressional committee inquiries that the GOP members tried to rush to an end — provided that they don’t interfere with anything that a Special Counsel (provided that there still is one) wants to do.
jamesb says
I’m sure you’re correct DSD in that there WILL BE NUMEROUS Democratic House led hearings lined up….
What will Devin Nunes do?
Get a job in the White House cleaning up behind Trump???
My Name Is Jack says
What exactly do they want to impeach Trump for?
At this time, I see nothing but speculation as to what the Mueller investigation might turn up over the next few months.
All this talk is nothing but hot air right now,
jamesb says
Obstruction of Justice in the Comey firing….
Conspiracy to do so….
Probably, but NOT public as you point out, various financial and tax irregularities….
If he ever sits down for a Q & A?
Perjury ….
When Mueller is done collecting the evidence?
I’d bet the above would be least crimes Mueller could present to one of his 3 Grand Juries for charges to handed up…..
But as the judge and you point out…
We doubt Mueller (and Rosenstein) have the ‘balls’ to go to mat criminally against a sitting President….
CG says
Every time I see the name Harry Reid in the title of the thread, I am reminded about how he helped set the stage for Trump and his 2016 by the deliberate, intentional, and unrepentant lying he did about Mitt Romney during the 2012 campaign. Reid’s response to this day is, “we won, didn’t we?”
So, the absence of truth and accountability made it all the easier for Trump and his supporters to weave their falsehoods and conspiracy theories. They won, didn’t they? How does it feel?
My Name Is Jack says
Yeah it’s definitely Harry Reid’s fault.
Those Republicans who nominated and elected Trump?
Harry made em do it!
jamesb says
Harry was baby stuff compared these days….
CG says
but you make excuses and shrug off Reid all the same. I don’t know how that makes you any different from “them.”
scott says
Yeah let’s talk about one lie Harry Reid told about one person 6 years ago instead of the Republican Partu’s continued embrace of the notorious liar and “textbook racism” (Paul Ryan’s own words) of Donald Trump.
Jesus.
My Name Is Jack says
I never mention Harry Reid so I have no idea what you are talking about,nor do I know who “them” is.
CG says
You really don’t remember this?
In the 2012 campaign, Harry Reid took the Senate floor (purposefully only there because Senators have immunity from lawsuits for things said there) and said he had a “friend” who told him that Mitt Romney had not paid taxes for a decade. No further information was given, but this of course received a ton of press coverage and put Romney on the defensive.
Romney would release his taxes showing he had paid taxes every year. After the election, Reid admitted in an interview that he made it all up but said he had no regrets because “we won, didn’t we?”
I am certain you remember this.
CG says
I am sure plenty of Trump apologists will claim they “don’t remember” that Trump said he had investigators who found “very interesting things” about Obama’s birth certificate being a “fraud” or will say now that his lies were all irrelevant towards a greater cause.
CG says
Dana Milbank of the Washington Post (hardly a conservative publication) wrote about this during the 2016 campaign using this example and many others to show how Reid’s dishonesty and rhetoric over many years (though always delivered in a soft voice) helped pave the way for Trump.
http://journalstar.com/news/opinion/editorial/columnists/milbank-reid-rhetoric-paved-way-for-trump/article_ea610f79-4789-5a76-a8dc-09e31e85a2fc.html
CG says
james to imply that my “attacks” on Reid indicate a bigotry against Mormon males in 5..4..3..
My Name Is Jack says
Oh s lets all start quoting opinion columnists as to who is responsible for Trump?
That makes sense.
Instead of opinion let’s stick with verifiable facts…
Donald Trump was nominated by the delegates to the Republican National Convention because he won them in Republican caucuses and Republican primaries.
And no Harry Reid had nothing to do with that.
Of course anyone can claim that they just “know” what was guiding those who supported Trump.
Poppycock.
CG says
By making truth and honor far less relevant in politics, Harry Reid helped pave the way for Donald Trump.
The difference between us is that have no issue if Democrats are dishonest or dishonorable in pursuit of winning an election. You only get mad when a Republican engages in it. So you are shrugging off Reid today just like Trump supporters will shrug off things he says and does.
Tribalists have so much in common.
My Name Is Jack says
So sayeth the best known tribalism amongst us.
CG says
What possible example can you give to back that up?
Just frustrated words on your behalf, as usual.
My Name Is Jack says
Haha!
Your whole being here is one big “ frustration!”
CG says
Undoubtedly to the apologist and the party hacks it is.
Same would be said over on another site from that crowd, but I enjoy causing the frustration.
My Name Is Jack says
That’s not what you said..This is what I was responding to…
“but you make excuses and shrug offReid all the same.”
I never mentionHarry Reid.I never have defended any remarks he may have made.
But do I think he had anything to do with Republicans nominating and electing Donald Trump?
Of course not and it’s more of your same old crap…
Trying to blame anybody but your own fellow party members for this boor.
CG says
But you have always and continue to shrug off what Reid said about Romney as well as everything else he has said.
All that matters is winning. In Trump, the Trumpists found someone who just gets away with it even more. I have always been opposed to it. But you folks reap what you sow.
My Name Is Jack says
Yeah you never cared about “winning.” You just care about how the game is played,right?
Good God what smug self righteous hypocrisy.
CG says
I always felt that while winning is good, being worthy of winning is more important.
The price of cheating or moral dishonesty is far too high, regardless of the benefit, and I have absolutely demonstrated those values in my own life outside of anything to do with politics.
CG says
I am pretty certain you have for nearly 50 years shrugged off the actions surrounding Ted Kennedy and Chappaquiddick.
If you have not, you will never express anything to the contrary as long as a Republican might hear.
My Name Is Jack says
Oh you are “pretty certain “ about all sorts of things…
And have lots of “hunches” too.
I never was a supporter of Ted Kennedy and did not support him for President when he ran in 1980.
It is noteworthy that the Democrats did not nominate Kennedy for President when he sought the nomination and yes Chapaquidick was an issue then.
Would that your party could say the same about Trum.
However given your ,uh, “certainty?”
If I ,who never supported him ,am responsible ,in any way for Ted Kennedy just by being a Democrat,then you ,who didn’t support Donald Trump ,by being aRepublican ,are responsible for Donald Trump.
An absurd formulation to be sure but such are the absurdities we deal with daily here with you and your never ending
“Whataboutisms”
CG says
Did you think at any time that Kennedy should have resigned for the Senate because of what he did? Did you express opposition to any of his Senate reelections? Did you think he deserved to serve time for what he did? Would you have not have voted for Ted Kennedy in 1980 if he had been nominated against Reagan?
No, you aren’t responsible for what Kennedy did but plenty of Democrats have shrugged it off over the years. Chappaquidick was not the reason you did not support him over an incumbent President in the South. Seems like there are some pretty clear differences though between you and Teddy and me and Trump.
One other difference is that as best as we know, Trump is not directly responsible for the death of anyone.
CG says
This column by a liberal writer is definitely worth a read regarding the new Chappaquiddick movie.
http://variety.com/2018/film/columns/every-liberal-should-see-chappaquiddick-1202746616/
It is absolutely true that liberal critics of Trump, as right as they might be regarding him in many ways, need to examine their own house as well, and practice what they preach.